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“The Cotton Ceiling”

March 25, 2012

LMAO!

March 22, 2012

Queer trans women don’t want to force lesbian women to like them, but rather analyze why they don’t and see if trannies can become more attractive in their eyes.Trannies have the right to discuss how to positively change themselves and how others perceive them.Just as women have the right to “say no”, trannies have the right make themselves less unattractive to improve their sex and love lives. Trannies have the right to try.Furthermore, “Overcoming the cotton ceiling” is in the spirit of other workshops in the event such as”Pick [Me] Ups for Hungry Virginz: How to Initiate Luv Connections (Or At Least Not Die While Trying)”which helps overcome “barriers and road blocks in your quest to connect with others-– whether that’s for one-night stands or lifelong partnerships or fuck buddies.”As a dating coach helping heterosexual males, I can say that many possible factors must be analyzed. For example, if I were applying heterosexual criteria, I could say that apart from physical dislike, trannies’ high incidences of depression, anxiety as well as the the low social value & stability attributed to them do not make them attractive to women, who in men would find such qualities very “beta” or unappealing.Furthermore, if trannies have any male genes, they should know that new research shows that the mere idea of an encounter with a woman can impair men’s cognitive performance, and thus the female does not get a true picture of the male.Whatever it is, trannies have the right to discuss how to overcome their predicament.”—————————-The above Homophobe and Rape Apologist is responding to this:

Support Women’s Sexual Autonomy — No Means No!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/917/570/206/support-womens-sexual-autonomy/

Planned Parenthood Toronto is helping to sponsor a March 31 conference in Toronto that includes a workshop inviting participants to discuss and strategize ways they might be able to “overcome” women’s objections to these participants’ sexual advances.  We believe that no means no, that a woman’s right to say “no” to sex at any time is sacrosanct and that no explanations should ever be requested because none is ever necessary.   The name of the workshop proposed is “Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling:  Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women.”  The workshop facilitator has defined the “Cotton Ceiling” as follows:

The cotton ceiling is a theory proposed … to explain the experiences queer trans women have with simultaneous social inclusion and sexual exclusion within the broader queer women’s communities. Basically, it means that cis queer women will be friends with us and talk day and night about trans rights and ending transmisogyny, but will still not consider us viable sexual partners.

The term cotton ceiling is a reference to the “glass ceiling” that second wave feminist identified in the workforce, wherein women could only advance so high in the workforce but could not break through into positions of power and authority. The cotton represents underwear, signifying sex.

Please sign this petition and ask Planned Parenthood to withdraw their support from this workshop and to continue their legacy of support for women’s sexual autonomy.
Information about the conference can be found here.”

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And this video:

And THESE POSTS:

http://womononajourney.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/support-womens-right-to-sexual-autonomy/

http://transfemmergence.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/cotton-headache/

http://jessicawolverinemetaneira.blogspot.com/2012/03/planned-parenthood-hosting-how-to-on.html

http://radicalresolution.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/um-hello-planned-parenthood-toronto/

http://smashesthep.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/on-the-cotton-ceiling-rape-culture-and-feministe/

http://appropriately-inappropriate.tumblr.com/post/19727907253/should-the-cotton-ceiling-be-overcome

http://bugbrennan.com/2012/03/13/178/

http://factcheckme.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/the-cotton-ceiling-really/

http://bugbrennan.com/2012/03/20/wtf-is-up-with-the-sherbourne-health-centre-in-toronto/

http://aquilakahecate.blogspot.com/2012/03/cotton-ceiling.html

http://1ladyface.blogspot.com/2012/03/i-dont-hate-you-and-neither-does-my.html?zx=cdfdab7a2c22b894

http://pretendbian.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/the-cotton-ceiling/

http://kallmannssyndrome.wordpress.com/2012/03/21/the-genetic-dna-ceiling/

http://factcheckme.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/moron-the-cotton-ceiling/

http://fightsmisogyny.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/fighting-misogynist-workshop-sponsored-by-planned-parenthood-toronto/

http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/sicko-comment-of-the-week-award-olivia/

http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/whats-up-with-toronto-sherbourne-health-center-threatening-lesbians/

It takes a lot to be the sicko comment of the week. You know we’ve had some doosies. But this week’s prize winner is rapetastic sicko lesbian-hater “Olivia” who took the time to share his sympathies with famed stalker of lesbians Xander Sarkisova:

Olivia commented on What’s up with Toronto Sherbourne Health Center threatening Lesbians?

Submitted on 2012/03/16 at 11:51 pm

I know I’m late on this thread, but I felt I had to say something. One poster had said that men aren’t capable of love which for the most part is true. I have never and will never try to change someone’s sexuality, I fully understand why lesbians wouldn’t want to be with someone like me, but I still want to be loved with the depth that a woman can love with, because in case any of you forgot, committed relationships are about love not sex.

[You understand why lesbians don’t want males like yourself but you still want them to, and you equate homosexuality with love and affection, not sexuality.]


I can’t stand bisexuals because they always settle down with with men, I don’t associate with 99% of transsexuals because they’re desperate, needy, insecure, pushy, and excessively feminine as a cover-up (plus being seen with obvious transwomen is a surefire way to get read, and I’m anything but obvious),

[you are more genuine than other male transgenders who don’t “pass” as female as well as you]

but as previously stated, men don’t love, especially not trannies. We’re fetishes. No one loves us, ever, it’s not an exaggeration (well maybe a little bit). It gets agonizing after awhile.

[Again with the men. And the men not loving you, and how agonizing that is. On a lesbian feminist blog you’ve come to express your despair that men don’t love you and that you see relationships with females- no, Lesbians, since you eschew bisexual women and hetero women are out of the question- you see relationships with Lesbians, who you “understand” don’t want you as a male bodied person- as an affectational sexless alternative to the agonizing lack of male love that you are experiencing.]

One thing that upsets me deeply, is people’s obsession with me getting bottom surgery in order to “qualify” as a woman, it costs about $20,000.

[It upsets you deeply that women are female, and that a man (an adult male with a male reproductive biology) is not female. And it haunts you that some jurisdictions WILL “qualify” you as female if you get maiming cosmetic genital surgery which costs about the same as the price of a decent used car.

It is certainly understandable that you find disturbing the idea that legal government entities will classify you, a male, as “female” after undergoing needless disfiguring and disabling genital surgery. This is a deeply disturbing idea. However if you are implying that the general public at large will ALSO classify you, a male, as “female” after undergoing such a mutilation is, I’m sure you are aware, a total fantasy/fiction. No one will ever classify you as “female” regardless of what medical or surgical procedures you undergo. Ever. There was a time when people believed in “sex changes” but that time is long past. From now on, and forevermore, the general public sees males who claim transsexuality as MALES who WISH they were women. Never as actually female. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing. There’s nothing wrong with a man who wishes he was female! ]

I’m never gonna have that kind of money. This stuff costs a fortune, I do what I can afford and I try to be happy with what I have. I don’t think a woman should be defined by her genitalia.

[Women AREN’T “defined by their genitalia”. Only men like yourself frame females that way. Females are defined by their genetic sex, and women are adult females. Adult HUMAN females. No human is defined by their genitalia, because they are human beings. A male such as yourself is by definition NOT female, because of your Y chromosome, your sperm producing testes and your male biology. Males are NEVER female. That doesn’t mean your male genitalia defines you. It is simply a fact of your biological reality. Truly, when males who wish they were female invoke the trope of “females being defined by their genitalia” they are trying to colonize and reverse feminist messages against sex-based stereotypes and sex-roles by inferring that actual biological sex reality doesn’t exist. And that’s just silly. Because humans are a sexually dimorphic species, and all your willing that to go away because for whatever reason you wish you were female, is just silly. You take a feminist meme of “women are more than just our reproductive systems, we are full human beings” and you attempt to upend it into “there is no such thing as a female”. Well hon, no one is buying that except you. Sowwy. Females actually DO exist! WITH our genitals! Or even with them (god forbid) missing for some reason. We are still female, and we are still fully HUMAN, ergo, MORE than just our reproductive capacity. It’s actually an expression of male aggression and sexism to imply that IF our female sexed reality EXISTS than we are LESS than human. See how that works? Probably not, because I don’t think you give a FLYING FUCK about anything but your own entitlement to females, and anything you think females can do for you.]

I’ve only met one lesbian ever who was completely on board with dating a transwoman. I’m convinced there has to be a few more, and maybe one of them is a single vegan anarchist with great hips.

[Lesbians are by definition females sexually oriented to other females. As in homosexual. But you’re still CONVINCED there’s one “with great hips” (is that like a horse with great teeth?) out there FOR you.]

As for the invasion of female space, I don’t care. No, I’m not a “born woman”. No, I haven’t been subject to the societal control that many girls go through growing up (I do now as an adult however). I am a woman, I always have been. I don’t care what you say. Rules are meant to be broken. If I’m denied what I feel I deserve, I’ll find a way to take it, or get my head kicked in trying.

[You DON’T CARE what women want or need. You don’t care what women say. You see females as “meant to be broken”. You won’t be denied by females and will fight to the death if need be to ignore our needs and realities and boundaries because you “deserve it”.]

Long story short, transpeople are sick and tired of being denied access to everywhere [women] , of being invalidated and forced to spend a fortune to qualify as who they already are, of having to lie about our pasts to avoid discrimination, of being rejected [sexually by lesbians/women] by anyone they try to be more than just friends with, Some us have entitlement issues, and they tend to be the most vocal thusly giving us all a bad image. Men just want to f**k us and hide us like a dirty tissue, so a lot of us who may or may not be lesbians turn to women out need for love, or they date other tgirls.

[Your failure to get the male partners you desire results in your aggressive entitlement that females should- must- service your needs]

We just want to be treated like the women we are, and, whether you admit it or not, you disagree. So we get angry, furious, and we have every reason to. We criticize your values, your beliefs, your desires. Some of this is wrong and excessive but the collective anger of dealing with nearly universal oppression can be difficult to control. I don’t agree with a word this Xander guy says, but I can understand where he’s coming from. We wish someone would look past our flesh for a moment.

[You can “understand” where trans are coming from stalking and harassing lesbians because you feel that women are required to be available to you sexually and emotionally, even (or especially) lesbian women because you are “justifiably” furious that the males you desire have rejected you and you demand that gay women/lesbians/ any women service your needs or pay the price of your rage and fury. Your fury that gay people are actually gay and aren’t interested in the opposite sex no matter how modified or “identified” or “passing” or surgically altered.

LESBIANS DON’T OPPRESS YOU BY BEING LESBIAN.

WOMEN DON’T OPPRESS YOU BY NOT WANTING YOU.

YOU SIR are a PREDATOR. YOU ARE THE ENEMY OF ALL WOMEN. YOU ARE A FUCKING SICKO. And the fact that you would come here and spew your RAPETASTIC female-hatred is NOTABLE.

“We wish someone would look past our flesh for a moment.”

WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU WANT. There are plenty of people dying horribly of various diseases who wish biological reality wasn’t real. You don’t see them BLAMING WOMEN do you???

WOMEN ARE NOT OBLIGED TO IGNORE PHYSICAL REALITY TO SERVICE YOUR WISHES.

There’s seriously NOTHING females can do to salve your wounds. You are the ENEMY of females, and you will be recognized as such, on some level, no matter what drugs you take or what surgeries you get, how well you “pass” or how much you shake your fist and rage, for the rest of your natural born life. Even if we TRIED we couldn’t fix you.

 My god these guys are sick. To anyone who believes American male trans/genderists have any difference whatsoever between the guys that throw acid in women’s faces that don’t service them, between males that force girls into marriage/enslaved labor/breeding just read this scary fuckers words for yourselves.

I will say that I know several male transgenders who would never, ever co-sign this sick fucks’ rapetastic platform, so thank god there are exceptions. But they are too few and far between and seldom speak out against their brothers.

THIS brochure is to be used to educate and enlighten interested parties in the issues involved with “Gender Identity” legislation and the harmful toll that such sex-based STEREOTYPING takes on females.

Please print and distribute widely.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/83995209

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