Boy Things / Girl Things

December 29, 2011

FTMs: Girl Things I won’t get rid of after transition-

Pink pajamas, fuzzy bunny slippers, pink slippers, conditioner, lotion, pink hoodie, pretty teardrop knife, colorful socks, yoga pants, jacket, hair care products, knitting, pony stuff, jewelry, birth control, stuffed animals, anime and manga, prom dress, baby clothes, pajama pants, crochet, nail polish, eyeliner, pierced ears, beadwork, knitting, sewing, conditioners and shampoos, facial mud masks, bubble baths, stuffed animal, striped socks, boots, jacket, dolls, skirts, sewing, embroidery, stuffed animals, nancy drew books, shampoo, conditioners, scented wall plug-ins, knick-knacks, belly-dancing stuff, jewelry, knitting, colorful socks, jewelry, engagement ring, painting my toenails, stuffed animals, prom dress, conditioners and shampoos, nail polish, hair stuff, notepads, pink things, knitting, jewelry, make-up, pants, stuffed animals, knitting, purple clothes, socks, musical instruments, feminine behavior habits that I taught myself to “try to be normal”, crochet, jacket, jewelry, stuffed animals, painting drawing and sculpting, stuffed animals, underwear, socks, tops, jewelry, stuffed animals, dolls, purses, make-up, skin products, hair products, bright patterned socks, puppies and kittens, jewelry, clothing, hair straightener, lotion, stuffed animals, hair straightener, twilight series, lesbian books, DVDS, hope chest, Tegan and Sara CDs, knitting, Backstreet Boys CDs, nail polish, stuffed animals, plushies, yaoi manga, paintings, teddy bear, shampoos, shower gels, underwear, pink diary, pink horse grooming tool box, scarves, nail polish, floral sheets, stuffed animals, dolphin and puppy stickers, underwear, dresses and skirts, crotchet, beadwork, ceramics, yarn, armpit shaving, nail polish, ponies, nail polish, Gilmore Girls DVDs, stuffed animals, chick flicks, cooking, stuffed animals, artwork, pettypoint, stuffed animals, stickers,  stationary, pajama pants, clothing, teddy bear, wig, stuffed animals, pants, nail polish, underwear, “Labyrs-like pendant”, Lesbian books, pink flower bed linen, old photos of me, my “sense of style”, stuffed animal, skin care products, lotion, stuffed animals, pajama pants, Christmas sweater, perfume, the color lavender, stuffed animals, acting, decorating and photography, being afraid of snakes, coloring books, HS senior picture, dresses.

 

MTFs: Boy Things I won’t get rid of after transition-

Male sex drive, interest in “exclusively gay stuff”, poker, football and hockey, “maturity and general good taste”, good music, playing drums and starting an all M2T band, guns and knives, hunting and fishing, fast cars, weight lifting, video games, jacket, technical things, engineering and physics stuff, football and baseball, violent video games and horror movies, jackets, combat boots, fast cars, big trucks, fishing, guns, more guns, jackets, comics and video games, real rock music, baseball, black powder weapons, heavy metal music, “outright enjoyment of confrontation”, my addiction to porn, nerd games, need for girlfriend to feel protected by, and proud of me, sci fi and fantasy genres, time with male friends, colognes, $400 sunglasses, band t-shirts, Vans and Converse shoes, jacket, NY Yankees cap, boxers, Xbox, snowboard, cars, racing license, watching rugby, action anime, fart jokes, saying the word “bro”, my “guyish personality”, being the big spoon when spooning, boxers and boxer briefs, bacon, woodworking tools, rugby, hockey, loud bands, pom poms and tight jazz pants from HS dance team, weight lifting, sports, football, baseball, guns, target shooting, fishing, metal music, expensive suits and bespoke shoes, woodworking tools worth $10,000, video games, football and baseball, being a huge nerd, beating people at driving games, cars and trucks, cowboy hat, toy collection, hunting compound bow, games, anime, manga, video games and guitar playing, “Real Rock” music, flying- solo pilot’s license, learning to sail, maths, physics and science, computers, geeky stuff, my penis, video games, my sense of being protective over my sister, competitiveness, geeky stuff, cologne, sports, buffalo wings, “my  career”.

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Compiled from the “Boy/Girl Things I Won’t Give Up” threads on a trans forum.

 

9 Responses to “Boy Things / Girl Things”

  1. joy Says:

    This is some sexist, conservative shit right here.

    F2T refusing to give up “birth control”?! Does she mean she won’t stop taking hormonal birth control (eg, estrogen) because she knows males will still try to fuck her and make her pregnant?
    Or is she making a smartass (and totally correct) jab at men throwing such mantrums about even the simple act of wearing a condom?

    It’s probably not that complicated or self-aware, though. This person is either a lesbian who is transitioning to “feel straight”, but knows she will forever be a potential target of rape due to her uterus; or a straight woman who will continue to fuck men after her transition.
    Regardless, it is depressing.

  2. Kathrin Says:

    I think the saddest thing here is the thought that to “be female”, one has to give up anything technical, or showing any form of strength, independence, or willingness to take a risk. To “be a man”, one apparently can’t care about grooming, or creating works of beauty, wear socks, or have a sense of aesthetics.

    I wish these people could see my family – strong women – engineers, biologists, into video games, and radio waves, science fiction and all things nerd. Or perhaps they could spend some time around men who aren’t afraid to wear pink or like “My Little Pony” (which quite a few men do).

    I can’t but wonder how many people made the decision to transition because they didn’t fit the little pink or blue boxes that society tried to shove them in. There shouldn’t be much of a list, because unless you are talking about reproduction or muscle mass, there is nothing to give up. If a man wants to cry into his rainbow dash plush toy at night when he’s hurt, good for him. If a woman wants to drink beer, play tackle football, lift weights, and be competitive, so be it.

    The medical establishment isn’t helping things, either. One of the things that really pissed me off about the whole transition thing was how people are judged on their ability to meet the stereotypes – to be the perfect “stepford wife”, or emulate Al Bundy. They take people at their most vulnerable, push them down a path that won’t make many of them happy, then deny treatment until they can fake a stereotype from a bad 50’s sitcom.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Yanno that whole trans trope about “trans are forced into gender stereotypes by gatekeepers” is really total crap, isn’t it? I mean, it isn’t gatekeepers forcing trans to die pumping hardware grade silicone into themselves until they have hips the size of watermelons, is it? In the states, where you and I are from, informed consent hormones are handed out like candy at the free clinics. And if you don’t want to go downtown you can just get them shipped to you within 48 hours from ordering online. The new WPATH guidelines (which exist to exonerate medical providers from any negative consequences related to prescribing trans related medical and surgical “treatments”) advise that no therapy or screening of any kind should be indicated. So really, the trans trope you invoke here: that trans people are somehow coerced into gender stereotypes- is total crap. An old, tired, trans trope that no one is buying anymore.
      Not a single one of the americans in this post is acting due to medical establishment standards. They are acting on their own accord. And I’m really surprised that you would trot out this lame trope Kathrin. I can only assume that you intended to say something more nuanced than that, which was somehow lost on me, because you usually have really good things to say.

      • Kathrin Says:

        > I can only assume that you intended to say something more nuanced than that, which was somehow lost on me, because you usually have really good things to say.

        Nope, nothing particularly nuanced here.

        I’ve been to a number of “informed consent” clinics (which will literally give you whatever you ask for), and ordered various medications online when I felt I couldn’t afford it any other way.

        I have also been to the providers I was talking about.

        I started down the road I chose in Texas, and was directed (by some people I knew) to an Endocrinologist, who sent me to a therapist.

        During my therapy sessions, there wasn’t a lot of focus on why I felt this way, rather, she spent quite a lot of time on appearance and mannerisms. “Try this type of makeup, or that makeup”. “Have you considered wearing skirts?”, “You cross your legs in a very feminine matter”, etc.

        After a few sessions, I realized that her “definition” of what a transsexual “should be” was completely incompatible with the women I knew and respected. I discontinued seeing her shortly thereafter.

        This was a lot of why I started to question the gender narrative as it was told. It started to show me what role women were expected to play (at least by the people I had the misfortune to be “treated” by). The endocrinologist wasn’t much better.

        It may be an “old trope”, but you have my word (for what it’s worth), it still happens. Do I think all medical practitioners do this? Of course not – I know better from personal experience. But it does happen, and those narratives are often the ones that people judge themselves against and try to internalize as their own, justifying themselves because they played with their sister’s barbies, or were into rough-and-tumble play.

        > Not a single one of the americans in this post is acting due to medical establishment standards.

        I hope not. I hope the experience that I had was extremely rare.

  3. KittyBarber Says:

    I had no idea these were “Boy things:”

    Technical ‘things’ (?)
    Engineering
    Good music
    Playing drums
    A pilots license
    Sailing
    Being protective over my sister. (?)
    Math
    Physics
    Science
    Computers.
    Buffalo wings
    Cars
    Jackets
    Poker
    Cars
    Shall I go on?

    Seeing as I am not a “boy” I guess I will have to give these all up, too. Dang. Why didn’t anyone tell me I wasn’t allowed to have a car? Or a computer? Or a jacket?

    And who can ignore “My Penis?” Perhaps if you just dye it pink, it’ll be a “girl thing.”

    Excuse me, there’s a flying pig outside my window with whom I have a date. She’s teaching me Mandarin Chinese. See you later!


  4. They are so deluded they even see gender in lifeless objects. I can’t take them serious. They are just a bunch of conservative gender cultists.


  5. My daughter in her Sophomore year in High School had a English Lit class where the class exercises was to have the board split in half, where every single student was asked to stand up and as a female or male give a one word descriptor of their sex.

    My daughter sat there and listened to 3/4 of the class stand up before it was her turn.

    Many girls stood up and gave a lot of these conditioned pink answers.
    All the boys stood up and gave conditioned blue answers.

    My daughter stood up at 16yrs of age and her simple answer NAILED IT it all.

    “Underestimated.”

    I couldn’t have been prouder of her. I hold parents responsible for these types of answers. I witness parents blaming everything in society except themselves.


  6. I found a cute video about this topic:

    The little girl in this video is smarter than many transgenderists will ever be.


  7. […] as well as the LGBTQ movement as a whole, sees gender as something that happens in one’s head. Various items and activities are assigned to each gender. If one hangs out in radical circles and has never strongly fit in with fellow members of her sex […]


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