The Cotton Ceiling This Week

March 17, 2013

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It’s been a year since I first spotted a small listing for a Planned Parenthood male-only seminar curiously titled “The Cotton Ceiling”. If you’ve never heard of it you can read about it here: https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/the-cotton-ceiling/

A lot of lesbians were sort of shocked by the Cotton Ceiling- a series of closed-to-females seminars designed for transgender males to tackle the “problem” of lesbian refusal to have sex with males. Lesbians were shocked, but not surprised. Dykes had long been aware of the male takeover of lesbian spaces- it’s been going on for years. Every public womon-space, from book groups to dances to music festivals to record companies to bars has witnessed the “transition” of the same creepy straight dudes who imposed themselves and haunted, sentry-like, the corners of our spaces,  into “transwomen” who now claimed they “were” lesbians.

In 1981 Victoria Brownsworth described the emergent phenomenon of transgender males who demanded entry into dyke spaces, followed by demands that such spaces should revolve around them and their “male lesbian” wants and needs: “ When we talk about the role of male-to-female transsexuals in the women’s movement as a whole and the lesbian movement in particular I feel we are talking about the ultimate in male power-tripping.”

It happened incrementally. First some male would show up in women’s space woefully in his earrings and afghan, speaking in his soft falsetto. Lesbians, like most women socialized to be care-taking and non-confrontational, did not have the heart to kick him out. The air in the room changed with his presence. Women did not talk and joke in their usual relaxed manner. He didn’t know the difference. But the women did. They hoped he would not return. But he always did. Of course he did.

Gradually women’s meetings and groups stopped being advertised. They were moved to private homes. Public dances became private house parties. Women’s bars, record companies, spas, festivals, book stores closed. Lesbian websites were taken over until they were all run by “male lesbians”. Inch by inch, yard by yard, real lesbian culture went underground, private, smaller. Cultural pundits speculated this happened because we were integrating into the larger society where homosexuality was no longer taboo. Integrate! Integrate! Integrate! Who needs womon-space anyway? It will always be there if we want it. But inch by inch, yard by yard, men took over. Until it actually wasn’t there if we wanted it. Until we actually weren’t allowed to have lesbian space: women’s space. Males protested lesbian space, often physically.

They tried to shut down Michfest Womyn’s Music Festival by setting up an occupation where men (“male lesbians”) slashed tires, cut water lines, terrorized women by stalking the perimeter with illegal weapons, and blanketed the festival with pictures of their dicks inscribed with the phrase “A hot load from my monstrous tranny-cock embodies womanhood more than the pieces of menstral [sic] art your transphobic cunts could ever hope to create”. Transgender “male lesbians” tried to shut down rape crisis services. They tried to shut down the Take Back The Night marches. Male transgender “lesbians”, ten years ahead of the curve of real women in internet access and organizing, formed attack groups against lesbian and feminist websites and news outlets long before most real women even knew how to get online. They attacked lesbians at Dyke Marches carrying banners stating that homosexuality is “wrong”.

Anti-Lesbian Dyke March protest: Gender overrides Genitals. Accept the Dick!

Anti-Lesbian Dyke March protest: “Gender is Greater Than Genitals”: Accept the Male Genitals you dumb dykes!!!

A male transgender named Ida (formerly Daniel) Hammer forced his way onto the organizing committee of NYC DykeMarch even though he was partnered with another male. He then proceeded to organize a posse of other men and non-lesbians to surround and threaten lesbian feminists who were targeted for their history of advocating for lesbian gatherings and events without men. Hetero male trans successfully had lesbian films removed from film festivals (before they had even viewed them). They wrote to book publishers calling for censorship of lesbian feminist books that had not yet been published- or written. They joined forces with the same anti-woman“Men’s Rights” groups that Anders Behring Breivik was a member of to shut down feminist seminars. They stalked and harassed any women who performed or attended lesbian or women’s festivals or conferences and tried to get them blacklisted from other venues. They tried to destroy vendors servicing lesbian events. And the rape and death threats. Holy shit. The death threats, the stalking.

My first post here at GenderTrender never even mentioned trans but I had my first death threat from a “male lesbian” within 5 minutes of posting. Any post, any gathering, any group, any seminar, for lesbians or from a lesbian or female perspective will be assaulted immediately by heterosexual males that fancy themselves as “lesbian”. The lesbian community is ground zero for the men’s movement we call transgenderism because the number one goal and priority of the gender movement is the elimination of lesbian voices and culture. 

Riki Wilchins and Denise Morris, the hetero white male “lesbians” who founded the Transexual [sic] Menace proudly claim the male attacks on the Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival as the galvinizing moment for the gender movement, and also the single largest organized pro-gender political action in history.

So. The Cotton Ceiling shocked lesbians but it did not surprise them. What was shocking was the dropping of all pretense. All the bullshit about hetero male transgenders being sad sacks born in the wrong body. All the suicide threats and appeals for female care-taking. All the complaints about sex-exclusive meetings (lesbian-reparative Cotton Ceiling seminars were male-only). Just as every male-incursive inch turned into a mile in the lesbian community- as these men destroyed the very thing they claimed to want access to (and never knew the difference), so the “male lesbians” blatantly stepped forward to organize for the rights of their base agenda- the male “human right” of their penises to penetrate the ceiling of the human beings whose minds and bodies were getting in the way of their “male lesbian” fantasies: dick-noncompliant Actual Lesbians.

What shocked lesbians about The Cotton Ceiling was the honesty. What shocked lesbians is that the men we’ve been dealing with since forevahhhh saw no need to bother disguising their corrective-rape agenda any more. Every nagging feeling in our gut since that first hetero male lurker sat in the corner of the dyke bar staring: confirmed. No more double talk. No more queer theory. No more manipulation. Just plain old fucking corrective lesbian rape.

Shocked but not surprised.

The Cotton Ceiling was the shot heard round the world in the lesbian community, even among the integrated “who needs lesbian culture anyway” wimmin. Yet (like the clueless male in the lesbian book group who has no idea how his presence eliminates the space he wishes to occupy) the autogynephillic male “lesbians” have failed to ascertain this reality. Which brings us to: The Cotton Ceiling This Week.

Two of the premiere leaders of the white hetero male transgender penis rights movement which represents the “T” in LGBT have, in their rapetastic male arrogance, gifted us with new missives outlining corrective measures for the pesky “L”.

The first, from the middle-aged hetero white male physicist calling himself Savannah/Lefty T-Girl who is best known in the transgender activist community for coining the term “Lady-Stick” for his beloved cock.

T-Girl wants lesbians to know that the term “Sausage Fest” is offensive to the lady-sticks of male lesbians. Some lesbians have sausage too: The male ones! Lesbians should refrain from verbally disparaging the sausage! Because: Male lesbians have dicks and lesbians should STFU about not liking them. Also, not liking dicks is bigotry against dicks. He very generously advises that he will not use force to make us service his dick, but admonishes us that failing to do so is against our own best interests because:

Female humans are groomed and socialized from birth that we are to be raped, murdered, enslaved by men en masse worldwide due to our reproductive ability to bear labor-producing offspring.

By failing to pretend his sperm ejaculating ladystick (penis) is female we support our own oppression and create the reality that females are to be defined by our reproductive status and we enable and cause our own oppression as females. Because if we would only support his assertion that sperm ejaculating peni are “female” we will erase reproductive slavery because we will reject biological reality. And it is reproductive biology that men use to enslave women.

How incredibly offensive is this to women?

Supportive male comments in thread:

  • there is no such thing as female humans, reproduction does not exist
  • acknowledging biological sex in humans means there is no defining feature to humanity except for biological sex
  • there is no such thing as human sexual dimorphism
  • homosexuality is oppressive
  • lesbians oppress males by rejecting them sexually
  • Etc etc ad nausea

The second “Cotton Ceiling This Week” missive offered by a white male autogynephillic “T” leader is from Julia Serano. Serano is considered the premiere authority on transgender rights and authored the book “Whipping Girl” which asserted that sex-based oppression against females does not exist and that feminists oppress men when we claim that “femininity” and “masculinity” are terms culturally assigned to submissive and dominating behaviors and enforced according to sex in order to codify male dominance over females.

Serano’s “Cotton Ceiling This Week” piece goes way beyond T-Girl’s claim that lesbians cause our own oppression when we decline a male transgender’s dick. Serano claims that the “mentality” of females in general is the cause of male oppression and the “ugly head” of female reality must be stopped. Not kidding. Wish I was. From his post titled “Faab Mentality”:  “…one can see FAAB-mentality rear its ugly head in radical-feminist blogs, butch/femme settings, and trans events. I’ve even seen queer folks wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the word FAABulous.”

Faab is short for “female assigned at birth”- terminology created by individuals with disorders of sexual development/intersex (usually children who had congenital anomalies or “birth defects” that caused them to have atypical reproductive characteristics). This terminology of “assigned sex” described the experience of intersex children who were medically “assigned” a sex absent of- or in spite of- diagnostic testing. Sometimes surgeries were (and are) performed on these children in attempt to make their atypical reproductive anatomy conform. To “normalize” them. This practice is unethical and now considered a form of medical “torture” under new UN guidelines. Transgender activists have politically colonized the intersex language of “sex assignment” because in the transgender belief system reproductive biology does not actually exist. Trans activists believe that all individuals – even those who are reproductively normal- have been medically “assigned” a sex arbitrarily at birth because they believe that human reproduction is a subjective mental- not objectively physical- state regardless of actual objective reproductive function.

So what is male trans leader Serano’s issue with females and what he describes as our “Faab Mentality”?

-Serano complains that because he believes that reproductive biology does not exist and that human sex is wrongly assigned based on the objective reproductive anatomy we are born with, it follows that our “assignment” is an infantile experience. Following from this premise, any discussion or acknowledgment of our sex-specific human experiences – either physical or cultural- is also infantile.

-He proposes that all female-specific discourse (I say female-specific and not sex-specific because he directs his critique solely at females) is therefore infantile “Baby Talk”: a play on words likening the voices of women to pre-verbal gibberish.

-Serano proposes that female discourse around sex-based experience be dismissed -and shamed- by the transgender movement as infantile pre-verbal gibberish. By doing so, he hopes to erase or at least silence females who organize politically or socially around female sex-specific oppression. His reasoning is that such feminist organizing undermines the absurd  transgender platform that human reproduction is non-biologic. (It is interesting that biology-denying Serano reports that he has undergone a radical plastic surgery procedure to modify his penis and testicles into something that attempts to visually approximate the appearance of biologically female reproductive structures.)

-He expresses dismay that even homosexual females who have been successfully indoctrinated into genderist jargon and theory continue to partner with females. Not only that, but lesbians who have been successfully trained to echo transgender discourse have subverted the trans colonization of “sex assignment” and converted said discourse into a new form of female power and pride. From his essay:

I read blogs. And an unfortunate consequence of reading blogs is that sometimes you stumble upon statements that make you upset. Lately, I’ve been dwelling over one single sentence from a blog postthat I read a few months ago. The author was a femme-identified cis woman who described her identity this way:

I only say I’m queer to steer clear of sex acts with cisgender men whilst simultaneously accommodating my devout lesbianism and propensity towards dating trans men when the butch pool feels too shallow.”

I have become preoccupied with this quote, not because it is unusual or extraordinary – on the contrary, these are very commonplace sentiments among queer women these days. Rather, my interest in this quote stems from how perfectly it illustrates the subtle ways in which exclusion transpires in today’s queer women’s communities.

First, she defines “queer” in terms of her “devout lesbianism” and “steering clear of cisgender men.” Given her definition, a bisexual [male] woman (such as me), who sometimes does have sex with cis men, must automatically be *not* queer—aka, straight. Ah, the decades old lesbian tradition of erasing the B out of LGBT.

Second, she describes trans men as though they are not *really* men, but just another variety of butch woman. Indeed, trans male acceptance and desirability in queer women’s spaces often hinges on this assumption, which is partly why so many FTM-spectrum folks who are on “T,” prefer the pronoun “he,” and move through the world as men, nevertheless disavow any male-identification.

But from my perspective, the most poignant aspect of this quote is that there is absolutely no mention of trans women. We are absent, irrelevant, just as we are in most queer women’s spaces. I suppose that this isn’t surprising. If, like the author, most cis queer women believe that trans men are really butch women, then trans women must really be men. And, given this, if they believe that dating men disqualifies them from being queer, then trans women aren’t even going to be on their radar.

Lately, I’ve begun calling this mindset the FAAB-mentality. FAAB is an acronym for female-assigned-at-birth. Both FAAB and its counterpart MAAB (male-assigned-at-birth) were originally coined by trans activists in order to challenge invalidating concepts such as “birth sex,” “bio boys” and “genetic girls,” and to stress that our gender identities are far more relevant than how the straight world nonconsensually categorized us when we were babies. Yet somehow, over the last few years, FAAB has been appropriated by many cis queer women who wish to convey their affiliation with trans men, and to distance themselves trans women as well as cis men.

For instance, the musician Bitch recently wrote an “open letter” explaining why her support of trans woman-excluding women’s spaces is not “transphobic.” She begins her letter by dismissing cis/trans terminology, then she reframes the issue in terms of FAABs versus MAABs. Again, this is not an isolated incident—one can see FAAB-mentality rear its ugly head in radical-feminist blogs, butch/femme settings, and trans events. I’ve even seen queer folks wearing T-shirts emblazoned with the word FAABulous.”

-As the above quote illustates Serano (like all trans activists) believes that male “gender identities are far more relevantthan sex-based oppression against women.

That all women are raped, assaulted, beaten, threatened, impregnated like livestock, child-brided, female genital mutilated, sex-selected aborted, acid-attacked, honor-killed, “domestic” violenced, face-painted, prostituted, whored, slut-walked, forced to show our teeth, corrective raped, underpaid, unpaid, silenced, censored, harassed, stalked, crimes against us unprosecuted and even unrecorded, dismissed, ignored, uneducated, shamed, shunned, humiliated, discounted, infantalized, Etcetera because of our reproductive biology is irrelevant compared to the “rights” of transgender male fantasists to access lesbian bodies.

This is the Transgender Rights Movement and this is The Cotton Ceiling This Week.

wbw

53 Responses to “The Cotton Ceiling This Week”

  1. Mary Sunshine Says:

    The saga of the destruction of our public Lesbian spaces, written so eloquently, so perfectly. Naming the agent. Thank you , Gallus Mag. Thank you.

  2. Lois Lane Says:

    Thank you. I have always found the emperor to have no clothes when individuals claim they become the opposite sex. Thanks for this article although I am sickened by the hatred shown to me and other woman born girl lesbians. I did not need to know this detail to hold my support for women born girl lesbian space and i am sad to now it and hope that the women who directly experienced this hatred have recovered their equilibrium.

  3. Chocolattruffaut Says:

    I love how Serano thinks that when we women speak about ourselves, it’s all gibberish and “baby talk.” But of course when he speaks, it’s the second coming of Cicero! How much more male can you get-saying that everything spoken by women is nonsensical and irrational?
    It amazes me that transactivists refuse to listen to themselves and give cogent arguments. For example, I read an article on a funfeminist site about how straight guys love to create fake profiles on lesbian dating sites (oh, you’re just figuring this one out?). And what was the very first comment? From a transwoman saying “waaaaah what about me, I’m a lesbian too!” with the requisite spiel about how straight women tell him all the time that he’s just like a woman. I wrote how maybe, just maybe, this wasn’t about him and that lesbians aren’t interested in his penis b/c….wait for it…..he’s not a real woman and lesbians are attracted to real live vaginas! I got a response saying that I was racist, classist, and transphobic, which of course had nothing to do with the discussion.
    Thank you so much for all you do Gallus, every post you write just confirms that WBW have logic on our side, no matter how much doublespeak people like Serano spew about our apparent inferiority.

    • Syd Says:

      It was Jezebel, no? I guess it could be any funfeminist site but from what I’ve experienced Jezebel is notorious for that. Anyone who disagrees with their views will immediately be attack for being and “ist” or a “phobic” of some sort. Not to mention a “slut-shamer!”

      • Chocolattruffaut Says:

        You’re exactly right Syd, it was Jezebel! Of course it’s important to call out racism, homophobia, etc, but just throwing out the term racist just because you think someone who disagrees with you is “bad” is sophomoric at best and ridiculous at worst.
        Oh god and the myriad accusations of slut-shaming! Radical feminism is already a dirty word over there, especially when it comes to discussing sex. I refuse to read that site anymore after the argument I wrote about above, and also for the fact that they got a middle class, white, hipster “artist” and prostitute to write articles about how great her job is, along with a list of tips if you want to be a prostitute too!

      • Adrian Says:

        @Chocolattruffaut – Lately “feminist” is being equated with “racist” all over the “social justice” blogosphere. Feminists, to that crowd, are all automatically white, irrational, and “transphobic.”

        Also “slut-shamer.” There’s a noxious intersection of “sex-positivity” with all this too. Because if you bring up the idea that perhaps, just PERHAPS, women (even straight women!! even ones who want kids!!) can have some legitimate fears of heterosexual sex because of rape and rape culture, that due to our SEX there’s historically been oppression all intertwined with that, that we recognize the vulnerable position that this sex is, well then hey, aren’t you just a prude then!! “Shaming” all those wonderful fun-fems who are properly “kinky” and properly “open-minded” and would never dare to speak out against the peen, be it a “cis-male” peen or better yet a “ladystick.” It’s utterly tiring.

  4. Em Says:

    I often wonder if MtT realize how laddish they sound when they declare themselves lesbians. Seriously, has any het horndog alive NOT at some point chortled, “I swear, I’m a male lesbian!”

  5. wildwomyn Says:

    Too bad Serrano doesn’t like that WBW have “appropriated” FAAB and MAAB. We women don’t like the fact that transgenders appropriated women. Serrano doesn’t address this at all.

    More male beating of chest and gnashing of teeth during “The Cotton Ceiling This Week”. We will not have sex with you transgender males. And whenever I run into straight people, especially men, who wonder about transgenders, I always tell them to Google “cotton ceiling” and they always come back to express dismay that transgender males are trying to force themselves on lesbians. Even straight males get it.


  6. people over the years kept on telling me “read Julie Sereno, read Julie Sereno” and then I did and I was like “Jeez what a DICK”.

    • Adrian Says:

      Lately it seems wherever I encounter any subject that even touches on feminism or women’s rights, even on forums that are 90% straight women and not normally about gender issues at all, the moment someone says anything at all about, well, obviously born WOMEN, someone has to stand up and say “but what about the traaaaaans*??? What about transwomen??? Not all women have vaginas!!1!!” Hell, someone will talk about birth control or similar and all of a sudden “but don’t forget about transwomen!!!!” Just… wut?

      Usually it’s people who I would agree with on most other issues, but this one blind spot is there, it’s as if there’s some need to show how tolerant they are, how not “transphobic” they are, right off the bat, every time. Heck, you’ll even find people who will start off agreeing that gender stereotyping in kids is a problem and yet once the “but what about the trans*?” call is made, suddenly now gender is a thing, the “girl brain” has to be a thing. It’s a complete and utter contradiction, but point it out and then… silence. Or squirming.

      A large number of such posters will then bring up Serano. You’ve got to read her, etc etc. It’s everywhere.

  7. Stefani Says:

    How is gender greater than genitals? Genitals are non changing where as anyone can move between genders at any given time in any given time.

  8. mel Says:

    Excellent article. Thank you.

    I’m old enough (mid 50s) to remember when people thought radical feminists were the crazy ones, denying nature in their claims that parthogenesis was a reality and that male humans were mutants, etc. It’s refreshing seeing radical feminists now being the voice of sanity against those (mostly men who call themselves women) who deny the reality of sexual dimorphism in the human species, etc.

  9. Syd Says:

    The MRA in drag. No amount of makeup can cover up that woman-hating homophobic mentality of theirs. Just another group of hetero MEN who think their entitled to “sex” rape women and intimidate them out of their own spaces. These creeps need to be exposed. Its time for the LGB/feminist community to wake up and see what these woman impersonators are really up to. But some WBW are so afraid of being called transphobic and bigot by these men (or worse threatened with rape and violence) that they keep silent. Mainstream “feminism” doesn’t want to get their hands dirty and deal with the reality of these transactivists.

  10. a reader Says:

    Hi GallusMag,

    I read your blog regularly with some enthusiasm, because I am fascinated by the issues and people you are writing about. Fascinated because these are trans people completely unlike me. So unlike me in fact, that I wonder what on Earth is wrong with them..my first thought is that it’s just not possible that they too are trans.

    I’m post-operative M2T, and I apologize in advance for leaving a comment on your blog. The only reason I’m doing so is because I want you to know that not all trans people are like the ones you write about. The people you are writing about are disgusting. The “cotton ceiling” is disgusting, the men insisting they should be able to change in front of young girls because they are “laydees” are disgusting. This whole “trans movement” and those with the particularly loud voices are disgusting. I’m thoroughly and utterly disgusted.

    While the world at large views me as female, I have never entered a female change room. I don’t participate in any women’s only groups. In many ways, it’s a lonely life. It’s hard to make lasting friendships while making the choice to keep my trans status to myself, as there is a lifetime of past experience I either can’t share or don’t want to lie about in order to share. It’s hard to enter any kind of romantic relationship for obvious reasons — especially when you’re still attracted to women and not men. However, the weight of those possibilities was something I entered into with open eyes. I knew what I was getting into, but I knew I’d rather be here than be dead.

    I’m not sure any of the people you write about know about relief. The sheer weight of the world sliding off of your shoulders post transition. (Well, after surgery anyway, there really is no post transition.) Being able to live with yourself and contribute to the world with a level of comfort that approaches normalcy. Being trans is not about demanding lesbians sleep with you, eroding the language, or any of the thousand things these people do on a daily basis to reaffirm what complete wastes of space they are.

    Please keep writing posts like this one. Eventually somewhere, somehow, someone is going to read them and actually listen for a change. Women born women matters. Thanks for listening.

  11. Fern Says:

    Thank you for this article, Gallus Mag. I’ve really just began learning about radical feminism and it’s horrifying who wrong my preconceptions were. Since my first introduction to feminism – via Jezebel, then Feministe, Feministing, and so on – was a very liberal/fun fem version, I bought into the lies about radical feminists (they’re all racist middle class white women and, horror of horrors, transphobic!) until I started to use my brain a little bit. It was, coincidentally, that horrendous article on Autostraddle that led me to find my way over to your blog, and it is an invaluable resource – I’m still going through your old posts. Thank you for all your work!

  12. Deidre Says:

    I can not understand how anyone who claims to identify as female would behave the ways you have described and quoted. It defies logic. It is completely counter-intuitive to behave this way and claim a female identity. WTFO? Who is anyone to criticize anyone on their free will choice of a romantic partner? (Ok, the obvious answer to that is a friend who sees a friend in an abusive relationship but even that needs to be tempered with love and compassion for their friend.)

    I may never go out of my house again.

  13. KS Says:

    When I was uneducated on trans issues I thought like most sane people that men claiming they were really lesbians trapped in a man’s body was a joke. For privileged het men to claim it as a reality and call lesbians bigots for non-attraction is beyond offensive. Sexual orientation is real and related to people’s physical characteristics no matter how much the trans lobby try to connect our attractions to people’s ‘gender identities’. Reparative therapy is alive and well under ‘the cotton ceiling’ and similar arguments, lesbians and gay people are attracted to the same sex not gender, to force lesbians to like a M2T’s dick is the same bullshit homosexuals have faced throughout history.

  14. IceMountainFire Says:

    Thank you for this highly useful historical outline how it began!
    They came so silently, swimming on society’s waves.

    Also all this resonates with me here on the other side of the Atlantic. As commenter Em said above – men love to call themselves ″lesbians″. That happened to me just recently in a café where I was with one of my best friends. When she went to the bathroom for a moment, TWO men came up to me with that shit, one also asking me how I could know that I was a Lesbian, ″You cannot know!” – rapey as ever. They weren’t autogynephiliac to look at, but since there is no difference between a man and a man in drag, how can I know, after all? *shrugs*

    Also in my country, AI for Lesbians is still not legal. Don’t get me wrong, I’m highly critical of Lesbians having (male) children and mimicking heterosexual culture, but in the end this means one thing: My state wants Lesbian to have het sex, or at least a male poking around in their life when they use the ″cup method″. And media in my country do their best to tell men horror stories about Lesbians skimming child support from them, so even gay people think twice before they donate – and those who actually do donate stick around with ″their″ child, having more rights over the kid than the biological mother’s partner (this law will be changed soon because the ECHR forces my country to). Anyway, if you are not rich enough to go to Denmark or willing to accept a ″father″ inserted in your Lesbian family, the only option is to go out and have random het sex. And this is what the state and the mainstream society here secretly crave – that ″those Lesbians″ at least for THAT have to turn to men, whether they like it or not. It is obvious in any comments-section beneath articles about the topic: badly veiled schadenfreude about ″At least in this regard we show the uppity feminists that they need our precious prick selves, harhar″

    I see the very same entitlement in the cotton ceiling dicussion: males occupying and bullying and raping Lesbians with state funding, while authentic Lesbian culture is pushed away. The transgender cult just takes the thing one notch further – there are no kids involved, they and all the other corrective rapists are the spearhead of patriarchy who wants us Lesbians gone.

    Thank you again Gallus Mag for the great summing up of this particular sad story.

    • BadDyke Says:

      With Richard O’Brien claiming on the BBC that he’s “70% man” (which you could claim, of course, is appropriation of the intersex condition to explain his inner jenduh fantasies…..), we do have at least ONE voice of slight sanity:

      “Professor Dinesh Bhugra, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London, offers a different view – suggesting that while people may feel not entirely male, or female, the reality is that they are born one or the other.

      “The distinction has to be made between gender and sex. Gender is very much a social construct, sex is biological.

      “My guess would be that social notions of gender dictate how we behave.”

      So, psychiatrists sticking up for basic biology, whilst dear Richard just wants to keep getting his hormone pills, and THINKS that getting oestrogen somehow makes him more female…….

      Plus he comes out with the usual jenduh crap:
      “There are people who are hardwired male and there are people who are hardwired female”

      O dear me, my poor little hard-wired female brain! And the BBC lets this crap through………..

  15. fluffoid Says:

    I have to fully agree with almost every aspect of this article. Back in 2005, my lesbian friend warned me that this would happen. She and myself suspected that males would want to franchise and invade the lesbian space, calling themselves “lesbian”. I also admit wholeheartedly to calling myself that in terms of rejecting any male centered perspectives and kept being open and saying I am neither fish nor flesh, you respect your friends and never, I repeat never intrude on their private space. But I also saw that all of this crap would ensue, these screwy males with issues no less problematic than sadistic males into BDSM would start making demands based on superficiality and having absolutely no inkling of what sensitivities go into being a flesh and blood authentic person (note, I am leaving out gender, just for a moment). A fetish is still a fetish, no matter how one paints it. It is reminiscent of how male centered autogynephilic males want to conquer the last private refuge of personal intimacy and infect it with their odious world of stalker abuse. The unfortunate truth is that such males have infiltrated the original transgender movement and have abused and raped good friends of mine. I have always felt that if one is centered enough in being gender affirmative towards the female world of causation, one does not try to gain forceful entry though mimicry and one respects the word NO. But then again, this is the ugly vision of a patriarchy where males try to cut gains from both worlds and at the same time abuse my friends, the ones that really did go and have the full vaginoplasty. Out of respect towards those whom are actually the ones responsible for all of our proper socialization, the mothers and the elders, you show them respect by saying 1) your biological sex and 2) your biological gender. In our transgender association (which includes both TG’s, TS’s and gender variants), we are clearly having problems with the gay males of LGBT wanting to dominate our private spaces, yet at the same time treat us like some kind of sick domestic animals. Human rights means having respect for minorities and likewise having respect for others, but in light of what is happening to 1) women in society at large, 2) lesbians women and to 3) gender identified female transitional males, I am beginning to sense a need to take a completely anti-male position joining the position take by radical feminism. Perhaps in essence of what has happened, I have suggested that women keep their change rooms for themselves and that men be put on a shorter leash, while us hated “freaks” try to find peace among ourselves, while assisting those in need when they really want it. I am frankly tired of a world where males lord over a person, no matter what they dress or seem to act like. It all comes across very sexually objectifying and superficial like mock chicken and monosodium glutamate. Basically it is simply an extension of the BDSM theme, where the fetish of topping from the bottom takes on a new twist, the aim is to violate the sexual private space and play master relations under a false guise and a fake premise. It like gluing feathers on a dog and calling it a duck. Sorry, I don’t buy it. It’s just another new and improved gimmick to gain entry to spaces reserved for ones private feelings an intimacy
    To me these men are the patriarchy. They’ve replaced their powdered wigs for bras and mascara.

  16. banewmark Says:

    Must be several levels of reading comprehension–female and male and wtf. “It is reminiscent of how male centered autogynephilic males want to conquer the last private refuge of personal intimacy and infect it with their odious world of stalker abuse. The unfortunate truth is that such males have infiltrated the original transgender movement and have abused and raped”

    1-They are the transgender movement, they infiltrated nothing, they built it.

    And getting a surgical blind pouch is just more fetish.

  17. Bev Jo Says:

    Thank you so much for this brilliant post, Gallus Mag. You continue to be the champion for Lesbians and all women, and especially those of us who do not want to be around men appropriating our identity. Your work is so important, on so many levels. Most women still don’t know that these most male of men are changing the statistics about violent “women” since they are counted as “women.” And that is only one aspect. It’s about countering the lies and cons, and you keep helping us do that by being such a constant and wonderful resource with your archives. I dare any woman who supports this female-hating men to really read you and not change her mind.

  18. Motherhood Says:

    “It is reminiscent of how male centered autogynephilic males want to conquer the last private refuge of personal intimacy and infect it with their odious world of stalker abuse. The unfortunate truth is that such males have infiltrated the original transgender movement and have abused and raped”

    They are the transgender movement, they infiltrated nothing, they built it.

  19. Abi Says:

    This piece by this man in this article is anti-gay and anti sex, Anti Lesbian. It denies females the right to ‘fancy’ female bodies, it turns them into male identified robots who must only “fancy” female “minds”. Infantilising women and their natural adult desires.
    No one would DARE say to gay men that they only fancy “minds” not “bodies”. I certainly wouldn’t. To me that is what gay men means. They fancy other men, male bodies.

    Only vile men have this disregard to females and their desires. No decent man would act like this… and as for male-to-“female” trans to think they feel they have a right to condemn homosexual females for fancying actual females is beyond belief!! Its like sex is not linked to the body…but only for females.

  20. BadDyke Says:

    “It denies females the right to ‘fancy’ female bodies, it turns them into male identified robots who must only “fancy” female “minds”.”

    Vile men versus decent men –a false distinction when ALL men act within the same patriarchal system. Don’t individualise the argument by trying to reduce the world to individual nice and nasty men….

    Plus I have to DISAGREE most strongly with this supposed right to fancy female bodies — in that it is MALE sexuality that creates this distinction between the body and the mind, that can ‘fancy’ the mindless object, or objectify thinking human beings.

    The point about female bodies is that they are the bodies of females, females who have minds that have been shaped by BEING female and being treated as female in this society. So, this femaleness can’t be created by surgery, which is just superficial anyway, nor can it be created by hormones, nor can it be claimed along the lines of ‘I’ve got a female brain’, because whatever brain they think you have, their experience and their bodies are still male.

    For me, the attraction is like to like — a body like mine, experiences like mine, and that alikeness ISN’T something that can be gained by surgery or hormones, or wishing.

    Let’s NOT reduce our deep spiritual desires for other women to this male concept of fancying bodies. That’s playing their silly games…………..

  21. Bev Jo Says:

    You are SO right, BadDyke. We’re taught that it’s all about “sex,” “sexual orientation,” and other male-identified definitions. It’s about love, deep and spiritual, and our bonding with those we love as female. No male even begins to come close to this…. or to us.

    • BadDyke Says:

      “No one would DARE say to gay men that they only fancy “minds” not “bodies””

      Except I would (and have) criticised gay men for being so typically-male and obsessed over only being attracted to certain types of bodies and superficialities (fat men, thin men, hairy men, hairy men with one leg, men who wear corduoroy, men who wear denim, men who like dressing up as bunny rabbits….). And ditto lesbians (I only date blonde women/thin women etc etc).

      The original post looks dead fishy to me, in that if you’re going to say, we SHOULD be able to be attracted to bodies (not mythical female minds because brains aren’t sexed), then although it looks like supportive at first glance, it’s actually NOT — because then you’ll have the mythical early transitioning M2T who looks so GOOD externally that even a gynecologist can’t tell the difference (I’d go to another, to be frank…..), and how DARE we not be attracted to that surgical & hormonal construct, because after all (without a CT scan) the body LOOKS female…………

      The problem here, we know what it is. It’s MALE sexuality that divorces bodies from people, it’s MALE sexuality that insists that ‘attraction’ and ‘chemistry’ are there (and are innate). It’s MALE sexuality that is aroused (and whatever arouses you is good!) by female BODIES, by things that look like female bodies, by things (animals etc) that remind them of female bodies, or even by inanimate objects that in some weird way happen to remind them of some event in their dim and distant past…………..

      For me lesbianism is about the deep spiritual and emotional connection with those LIKE me, similar bodies, similar experiences, that’s where the ‘homo’ bit comes in, and it isn’t a stupid male argument about whether it should be homosexual, or homogender, or whether I’m attracted to bodies or minds (or lampstands cos they’ve got nice curves……….). Trans don’t come ANYWHERE near because they’re not LIKE me in ANY way apart from a shared humanity. That’s why we’ll NEVER be attracted to those guys, and no surgical or hormonal intervention can do a damn thing about that.

      • farishcunning Says:

        Well-said, BadDyke; you’ve got it exactly. Oh, and FTR, I am not a “cis queer woman”, I’m a Lesbian, a Butch Dyke to be exact. I refuse to let myself be disappeared.

  22. Brunhilda Says:

    Question to logic:
    If transwomen are ‘women’ (I don’t think they are), then how can they have a seminar that is ONLY for men (or for transwomen), without segregating themselves from the general populace of women, and thus declaring themselves to NOT be female/women, and thus NOT within the sexuality that is lesbianism?
    This is a Logicfail as far as I can see (and just fuels my ‘trans people are crazy’ list), can anyone come up with an argument why it’s NOT a logicfail?
    (That’s a rhetorical q.)

    • Ms.Deidre Says:

      Because the radfems kicked them out of women only space in the 70’s with therir political action. They have been struggling to gain a toe hold ever since. Only in the last few years has any real progress been made from them….

  23. SheilaG Says:

    Male sexuality does indeed divorce bodies from people

    • Motherhood Says:

      antisocial–sociopathic. Male sexuality certainly when they have made themselves the center of all erotic thought is anti-social. They have divorced themselves as well and that makes them IMHO much more of a threat

  24. EM Says:

    Thank you! Thank you so much.


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  26. […] meetings, although DiNovo has not yet clarified that point. Planned Parenthood Toronto sponsored “Breaking Through The Cotton Ceiling” seminars for transgenders to strategize how to convince lesbians to accept sex with penises. The […]

  27. Versa Says:

    “…our gender identities are far more relevant than how the straight world nonconsensually categorized us when we were babies.”

    Seriously? What is he smoking?


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  29. […] There is also a lot of discourse in the lesbian feminist community about what trans activists have termed “the cotton ceiling,” This refers to “the glass ceiling,” i.e. the invisible barrier that keeps women from advancing up the corporate ladder. In this case it refers to lesbian’s cotton panties, which “lesbian” transwomen are keen to get into. Yes, this is really a major topic among them. I would encourage you to read this and the related posts by GallusMag at GenderTrender: https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/the-cotton-ceiling-this-week/ […]


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  31. Henke Says:

    Thank you so much for this piece! I admit that I have not been much into the history of transgender and these males but now I have a much more better view on what is happening. I have felt something is wrong in the transmovement but I have failed to address it clearly. This post has made it very clear and I also now easier see as to why gender critical transsexuals and in the extension anyone that even as much as mention that women should have the right to define your own spaces are harassed and targeted by this mob.


  32. Well. I’m “straight” and EVERY SINGLE WORD of that had me nodding in agreement.
    Let’s face it, ALL women are expected to accept all dick, and these arsehats only pick on lesbians because they’ve absolutely no chance with them.
    NEWSFLASH . I’m one of those annoying “Str8s” they’ve no chance with either . Even their psychology is deeply creepy.

  33. lin Says:

    Cotton ceiling makes me picture trannies with panties on their head. It has nothing to do with the metaphor of a glass ceiling, which you can see through but can’t shatter. Cotton curtain is what they would have named it if they had any understanding of history or metaphor or even alliteration.

  34. GallusMag Says:

    I should fix the awful formatting in this post. I had no computer at the time and was posting from the library.

  35. Janetwo Says:

    Of all your posts, this is one of the most powerful. Still so clear and relevant two years later. We owe you so much Gallus. You should be the one with an academic platform.

  36. Kho Says:

    This is Kho.


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