March 31, 2013

From FCM: ” we are absolutely swimming in the erasure of radical herstory right here, right now. remember this.”
An important post.

femonade

ive been doing this awhile now, and i can report that i have been a target from day one or thereabouts, when the fun fems and sex-pozzers first tried to silence me.  this was even before i received my first rape or death threat — it was the women that nearly did me in!  granted, half these “women” were probably men, but not all of them.

in the beginning — notably, before i had even found my voice or gone anywhere near the ends of my thoughts — in order to amass currency and credibility, i was invited to “check my privilege” to the point of nearly (even clearly) identifying myself publicly.  (i declined that invitation.)  in the same vein, accusations were lobbed at me of various “privileges” (and continue to this day) inviting me to reveal details of my life as a “rebuttal” lest i encounter negative outcomes…

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  1. GallusMag Says:

    Emailers: YES I am aware FCM takes issue with some of my posts/comments in this. Thank you!

  2. WordWoman Says:

    it’s password protected, so not sure how to get the pw.

  3. GallusMag Says:

    DEAR ALL WOMEN: CATHY BRENNAN OWNS FEMINISM NOW. YOU WILL SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO. UNAUTHORIZED SPEECH WILL BE PUNISHED WITH DOXXING AND THREATS OF LAWSUITS. DO TAKE NOTE.

  4. nopestories Says:

    Wait, brennan made factcheckme put a password protect?
    I don’t get what the hell is going on, but i assume it has to do with twitter or something because brennan said something about fighting on twitter on her blog, but i don’t fucking understand what the fuck is going on.
    Damn facktcheckme is like my favorite writer TT.TT

    • KittyBarber Says:

      ive been doing this awhile now, and i can report that i have been a target from day one or thereabouts, when fun fems and sex-pozzers tried to silence me. this was even before i received my first rape threat — it was the women that nearly did me in! granted, half these “women” were probably men, but not all of them.

      in the beginning — notably, before i had even found my voice or gone anywhere near the ends of my thoughts — in order to amass currency and credibility, i was invited to “check my privilege” to the point of nearly (even clearly) identifying myself publicly. (i declined.) in the same vein, accusations were lobbed at me of various “privileges” (and continue to this day) inviting me to reveal details of my life as a “rebuttal” lest i encounter negative outcomes (like losing currency and credibility, due to all the privilege). or, you know, ignore it.

      this is no accident BTW. this “privilege checking” business mirrors doxing and outing exactly. it is identical, and the point is to make radical feminist bloggers more vulnerable to violent men in real life, in order to silence us, or cause us to self-censor out of fear. this outcome — outing and doxing in order to silence radical women or original, female-centered thought — is what men want, and this is what men get. handed to them on a silver fucking platter. by us, via “privilege checking.”

      luckily, even way back then, although this was my first blog, it was not my first rodeo — i continued. at some point my focus changed, and i came to realize that what i was doing was qualitatively (and quantitatively) different than what anyone else was doing at this time and place (online, now). very recently, and very painfully, and painstakingly, and like REALLY SLOWLY, as if i had some kind of mental block against realizing this particular truth as a matter of fact, i realized that reformist-oriented radical feminists have taken over the movement, and are trying very hard to silence dissent. here is what i mean by that.

      i mean that there are radical feminists who are without a doubt radical — they recognize the importance of getting to the root of womens oppression by men. that is not a small thing. in order to fulfill that most basic requirement, one must first believe in women and men — in todays pomo, queerified environs, almost everyone fails. reformist-oriented radical feminists believe in women and men as sexual classes, and they want to get at the root, and notably, they have chosen to utilize legal and social reform as a tool to dismantle what they consider the root, which is usually identified as dom/sub. the ugly part of this is not that they are utilizing a specific strategy towards ending male dominance — to each her own. the ugly part, as it always is, is the disingenuous part, the silencing part.

      to wit, and these are but 2 examples, men and trannies have been really pissed off about mary daly for a long time — they see her as an “evil” woman (HA!) and resent her audacity in every way. they have resented her “sexism” against men and her female-centered vision for a long time — they wanted her erased. indeed, if mary daly were alive today, her work likely wouldnt even be published, and her physical safety would be in serious danger because of the escalating threats and violence of men against women and against specifically feminist ideology.

      so within this political and material context, where men vehemently wish mary daly and her work would be wiped from the face of the earth, what does one (relatively) well-known reformist-oriented radical feminist do, in a public letter to the UN (subject: trannie politicking) but throw “essentialists” like mary daly and all feminists who think like mary daly under the bus — we are erased from feminism. mary daly! not a feminist! because she noted that men are unlikely to be changed, and that its likely biological. thats rich. no, the real feminists are the social determinists, like gloria steinem — and steinem herself seems especially quotable when she herself is quoting a man. srsly, read the UN letter if you havent already. now thats good feminist erasure i mean reformist politicking.

      next, and of personal and political significance to myself (and others) men and trannies set their sights on the radfem HUB early on. they wanted it GONE. erased. so…has anyone seen the HUB lately? gee, where did it go, who was involved, and what lead up to it — even more to the point, what has been so distracting and time consuming (erasure complete) for 2 of the most prolific radfem bloggers of late, 2 radfem bloggers who are decidedly against reformist politicking and have been calling shit on both reformism and the tendency of reformist feminists to hold out hope for men against all evidence — and why oh why arent they writing anything?

      and even more interesting is this: “liberation collective” has just today republished a series originally published on the HUB — but doesnt mention the HUB at all, or mention that this is not the first time this series has been published, or where. its as if HUB never existed, but of course erasing the HUB is the entire reason “lib coll” exists — it was created in may, 2012 and hosted exclusively republished/recycled content from the HUB but without acknowledging the HUB at all, or the fact that the posts were not first published at lib coll, but in fact were created previously and exclusively for/within a specific context, and were first published “somewhere else.” and what that “context” was and where that “somewhere else” might be was and is specifically omitted. get it? all of that has been erased. a very fine point has been added now that the HUB itself was destroyed. from the inside.

      now, im sure someone who knows more than i do can investigate this if they are interested: are the organizers of lib coll and the organizers of radfem 2013 the same people? was the owner and dispositor of the HUB domain involved in any way in either lib coll or radfem 2013? if so, was it in a “public relations” capacity? im just asking.

      and for those who plan to go, i hope you will report back as to whether the entire point (purpose and effect) of radfem 2013 was to advance the agenda and numbers of reformist-oriented radical feminists, while simultaneously erasing and negating the fact that there is any other kind. and that we were very vocal, once.

      this is what “erasure” looks like, on the ground, in real time. in case anyone has ever wondered. it looks like reformist activating, or at the very least, reformist activating routinely produces a very specific result which serves to erase radical feminists and radical feminist work — does it not? we are absolutely swimming in the erasure of radical herstory right here, right now. remember this.

      • KittyBarber Says:

        this is FCM’s post above.I don’t have the password, but got the whole thing via email. (?)

      • nopestories Says:

        I don’t understand why that needed a password.
        She has written so much stuff that would piss off people, and this one was password protected??
        Its so polite.

        Also thanks for posting it.

    • KittyBarber Says:

      Below is FCM’s post, which I got via email. No password needed. (?)

  5. Branjor Says:

    I have no idea what’s going on either, but FCM is my favorite too.

  6. bluejeans Says:

    Is this related to the domain hosting debacle?

    Also, I think people have been saying not to visit the empty radicalhub because of the possibility that there’s a tracker or something in the site script used for malicious purposes? I don’t know if that’s true or not but I’d err on the side of caution where there are so many violent loonies out there.

    So depressing. There are few things so sad as infighting among an oppressed class. the people who hate us sit back and laugh. when she’s attacking other feminists she’s doing their job for them. I’m so sick of the silencing, I barely even feel safe commenting anonymously on a blog anymore.

    • Kathrin Says:

      In general, tracking by web sites to individual people is unlikely. Almost any .com has more than enough random traffic to their home page that picking one or two people out of the crowd is very, very hard.

      What’s more of a concern is the potential for viruses. Once in a system, an attacker can potentially log passwords, read email stored on the computer, etc. For what it’s worth, I don’t see any evidence of any such things on the “new” radicalhub.

      Another possibility is a directed attack – in particular, links sent via PMs/emails. Because the link goes directly to a specific page (which is often not public), it’s easy to get an IP for an individual. Even if someone manages to get your IP address, ISPs almost never hand subscriber information out, but it can aid an attacker in getting a general location, or in extreme cases, be used for harassment purposes. I’m not going to go into specifics, as I don’t want to give anyone ideas.

      “I barely even feel safe commenting anonymously on a blog anymore.”

      This is one of the things that sickens me about the way the internet is going – how it’s being subverted to deny their voice to those it should most empower. Nobody should ever feel denied a voice, especially in what should be a safe place.

      There are services that can help protect anonymity, by sending traffic through another part of the world.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Thanks bluejeans for the heads up. As for Brennan…*sigh*

  7. ibleedpurple Says:

    There is no doubt something fishy was going on when Radfem Hub bit the dust. I know there are still women out there who trust Brennan. Personally speaking, you do this at your own risk.

  8. Bev Jo Says:

    Thank you for keeping us posted about this, Gallus Mag. Other radical or even mainstream movements of oppressed people do not keep coddling/feeding/supporting those who have betrayed them. Cathy Brennan has betrayed so many feminists repeatedly, and yet she is speaking at the “radfem 2013” London conference. Why? (Not expecting you to answer, but when is someone held accountable in our community, especially when they have never been a real part of our community, but pretended to get power?)

  9. Stella Says:

    Also enjoyed FCM a lot. And sad to see magicpoppy’s tumblr p/w-protected too now. I felt unsafe commenting before this, even under pseudonym, but these developments no doubt make more women than just me feel like leaving it alone for good.

    • magicpoppy Says:

      This is disingenuous, diversionary crap, considering that the Grauniad is staffed chiefly by status-jockeying Oxbridge toffs who never gave a rip for working class women in the first place.

    • Abi Says:

      As a bona fide working-class-woman, something the Guardian scribblers have not come across since 1947, I answered their questions, which were biased. They seem to point the finger at feminism: That it has caused a loss in working peoples lives. On some false but easy level this is true. When Western working women were not available to provide a tractable, guilt- ridden workforce to compete with highly aggressive union-minded males, wages were higher.

      Due to their so-called “feminism” this ‘blue collar’ tractable workforce are now available and wages have remained stagnant at the 1970’s level.

      Soooo true-blue reactionary tabloids like the Kindle/Chinese slavery accepting “Manchester” Guardian can bring as proof of “feminism” higher waged females, (who mostly write cr*p for the self congratulating) Guardian.

      To make a long story short (too late) I tried to tell them that it is the White Male Privilege that they are sitting comfortably on that is MY problem, not real and honest Feminism which enlightens, empowers and enables me to live a better life.


  10. Here is the article (subscribers received it by e-mail):

    “ive been doing this awhile now, and i can report that i have been a target from day one or thereabouts, when fun fems and sex-pozzers tried to silence me. this was even before i received my first rape threat — it was the women that nearly did me in! granted, half these “women” were probably men, but not all of them.

    in the beginning — notably, before i had even found my voice or gone anywhere near the ends of my thoughts — in order to amass currency and credibility, i was invited to “check my privilege” to the point of nearly (even clearly) identifying myself publicly. (i declined.) in the same vein, accusations were lobbed at me of various “privileges” (and continue to this day) inviting me to reveal details of my life as a “rebuttal” lest i encounter negative outcomes (like losing currency and credibility, due to all the privilege). or, you know, ignore it.

    this is no accident BTW. this “privilege checking” business mirrors doxing and outing exactly. it is identical, and the point is to make radical feminist bloggers more vulnerable to violent men in real life, in order to silence us, or cause us to self-censor out of fear. this outcome — outing and doxing in order to silence radical women or original, female-centered thought — is what men want, and this is what men get. handed to them on a silver fucking platter. by us, via “privilege checking.”

    luckily, even way back then, although this was my first blog, it was not my first rodeo — i continued. at some point my focus changed, and i came to realize that what i was doing was qualitatively (and quantitatively) different than what anyone else was doing at this time and place (online, now). very recently, and very painfully, and painstakingly, and like REALLY SLOWLY, as if i had some kind of mental block against realizing this particular truth as a matter of fact, i realized that reformist-oriented radical feminists have taken over the movement, and are trying very hard to silence dissent. here is what i mean by that.

    i mean that there are radical feminists who are without a doubt radical — they recognize the importance of getting to the root of womens oppression by men. that is not a small thing. in order to fulfill that most basic requirement, one must first believe in women and men — in todays pomo, queerified environs, almost everyone fails. reformist-oriented radical feminists believe in women and men as sexual classes, and they want to get at the root, and notably, they have chosen to utilize legal and social reform as a tool to dismantle what they consider the root, which is usually identified as dom/sub. the ugly part of this is not that they are utilizing a specific strategy towards ending male dominance — to each her own. the ugly part, as it always is, is the disingenuous part, the silencing part.

    to wit, and these are but 2 examples, men and trannies have been really pissed off about mary daly for a long time — they see her as an “evil” woman (HA!) and resent her audacity in every way. they have resented her “sexism” against men and her female-centered vision for a long time — they wanted her erased. indeed, if mary daly were alive today, her work likely wouldnt even be published, and her physical safety would be in serious danger because of the escalating threats and violence of men against women and against specifically feminist ideology.

    so within this political and material context, where men vehemently wish mary daly and her work would be wiped from the face of the earth, what does one (relatively) well-known reformist-oriented radical feminist do, in a public letter to the UN [https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2012/08/28/2012-submission-to-the-un-commission-on-the-status-of-women-the-legal-category-of-sex-and-understanding-the-status-of-women/] (subject: trannie politicking) but throw “essentialists” like mary daly and all feminists who think like mary daly under the bus — we are erased from feminism. mary daly! not a feminist! because she noted that men are unlikely to be changed, and that its likely biological. thats rich. no, the real feminists are the social determinists, like gloria steinem — and steinem herself seems especially quotable when she herself is quoting a man. srsly, read the UN letter if you havent already. now thats good feminist erasure i mean reformist politicking.

    next, and of personal and political significance to myself (and others) men and trannies set their sights on the radfem HUB early on. they wanted it GONE. erased. so…has anyone seen the HUB lately? gee, where did it go, who was involved, and what lead up to it — even more to the point, what has been so distracting and time consuming (erasure complete) for 2 of the most prolific radfem bloggers of late, 2 radfem bloggers who are decidedly against reformist politicking and have been calling shit on both reformism and the tendency of reformist feminists to hold out hope for men against all evidence — and why oh why arent they writing anything?

    and even more interesting is this: “liberation collective” [http://liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2013/03/30/lesbian-bdsm-part-1-lesbian-bdsm-in-fan-fiction/] has just today republished a series originally published on the HUB — but doesnt mention the HUB at all, or mention that this is not the first time this series has been published, or where. its as if HUB never existed, but of course erasing the HUB is the entire reason “lib coll” exists — it was created in may, 2012 and hosted exclusively republished/recycled content from the HUB but without acknowledging the HUB at all, or the fact that the posts were not first published at lib coll, but in fact were created previously and exclusively for/within a specific context, and were first published “somewhere else.” and what that “context” was and where that “somewhere else” might be was and is specifically omitted. get it? all of that has been erased. a very fine point has been added now that the HUB itself was destroyed. from the inside.

    now, im sure someone who knows more than i do can investigate this if they are interested: are the organizers of lib coll and the organizers of radfem 2013 the same people? was the owner and dispositor of the HUB domain involved in any way in either lib coll or radfem 2013? if so, was it in a “public relations” capacity? im just asking.

    and for those who plan to go, i hope you will report back as to whether the entire point (purpose and effect) of radfem 2013 was to advance the agenda and numbers of reformist-oriented radical feminists, while simultaneously erasing and negating the fact that there is any other kind. and that we were very vocal, once.

    this is what “erasure” looks like, on the ground, in real time. in case anyone has ever wondered. it looks like reformist activating, or at the very least, reformist activating routinely produces a very specific result which serves to erase radical feminists and radical feminist work — does it not? we are absolutely swimming in the erasure of radical herstory right here, right now. remember this.”

    My only commentary is that I never said a word about Mary Daly in the UN letter. FCM confuses other women (her intended audience) when she talks about Daly like she’s directly addressing the letter. She’s not, she’s simply mad that there’s a theoretical split among radical feminists on this issue (and then mad at me for not explaining that internal disagreement to the UN– lol). I’m not at all sorry for what I said: biological determinism is in direct conflict with my gender-abolition arguments.

    PS. I hate rhetorical questions. Love, Reformist Feminist
    PPS. Dworkin is an example of a radical feminist who did NOT believe that men were “essentially” anything.

  11. GallusMag Says:

    FCM’s post is open again. Thanks everyone.🙂

  12. oi dun geded Says:

    >i have removed the password protect and comments will remain open as long as people are discussing. sorry for the delay.

    What the hell is going on????????????????????????????????????????????????/


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