Allyson Robinson, first Heterosexual Executive Director of a national LGBT Org gets the boot in surprise weekend board meeting

June 24, 2013

Heterosexual Male Allyson Robinson after facial feminizing surgery

Heterosexual Male Genderist Allyson Robinson

As reported by multiple sources, Allyson Robinson was relieved of his duties yesterday as director of OUTSERVE, a “National organization devoted to assisting those affected by “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue”  in a regularly scheduled Saturday board meeting. Robinson’s appointment as chief nine months ago was celebrated by transgender activists as a historic first for heterosexual members of the “LGBT”. Robinson was the first heterosexual appointed to run the LGBT org by virtue of his transgenderism.

Robinson, 43, who had cosmetic facial surgery to appear more female but retained his male sexual organs, had a 5 year military career, being accepted as a West Point candidate after his application was rejected three times. He served from 1994 to 1999. Then, presumably using VA funding, he obtained his Masters degree in Divinity at Baylor University, a private Baptist college, and became both a “Baptist Preacher” and transgender in 2007. He remains married to his wife of 19 years, Danyelle, and is the father of four, oldest 14.

As the dust settles, the “professional LGBT” community (those making a tidy living working for social justice orgs) scramble for answers. And the heterosexual/transgender wing of the LGBT is already calling conspiracy- against genderist, heterosexual members of the LGBT by homosexuals.

But let’s get real. Let’s talk about the elephant in the room, the reality so obvious only those dullard or delusional could fail to discern it.

GAY PEOPLE HAVE NO INTEREST IN SUPPORTING GENDERISM.

In fact, many many gay people find genderism to be a conservative hetero-centric political platform antithetical to lesbian and gay liberation.

The only reason Allyson Robinson was appointed as head of OUTSERVE is because he was the only one who wanted it. Presumably the heterosexual christianist genderist, as so many outside the gay community do, vastly overestimated homosexual support for heterosexual genderist concerns. Or maybe he is just dumb. Hey, it happens.

NEWSFLASH: “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” was repealed in September 2011. Lesbians and gays are no longer hunted and stalked and dishonorably discharged from service due to homosexuality. OUTSERVE is an obsolete organization, as evidenced by their merger with another obsolete organization, Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, in July 2012, just prior to Robinson’s appointment.

Did Allyson really believe that gays would continue to fund an org whose mission had “transitioned” from a gay org to one whose platform was now about obtaining the “rights” of heterosexual men like Allyson to serve in the military while injecting mad cross-sex hormones and showering in the female dorms? Did Allyson believe gays prioritized such a venture? Would pay for such a mission? Get real.

The Pew Survey of LGBT Americans released on June 13 shows that 45% of those who now consider themselves members of “the LGBT” are non-homosexual. Even so, transgender concerns were rated dead last by LGBT community members in terms of priority.

pew survey- lgbt priorities

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Further, the majority of LGBT respondents reported that they shared NO COMMONALITY WITH TRANSGENDER ISSUES OR CONCERNS WHATSOEVER. As in, none. Nada. Nothing. No comprende.

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pew lesbian and gay survey commonality transgender

So let’s face it, “LGBT”.

Lesbians and Gays will not be funding the heterosexual transgender movement. We just won’t. The question isn’t why heterosexual Allyson Robinson was ousted, but wtf was he doing there in the first place.

In the meantime, as it all gets sorted, transgenders should support transgender concerns: like this transgender male’s “battle” for his “right” to provide personal care for dependent women patients who don’t want to be touched by him. The Lesbian and Gay community will NOT be supporting him.

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74 Responses to “Allyson Robinson, first Heterosexual Executive Director of a national LGBT Org gets the boot in surprise weekend board meeting”

  1. Ks Says:

    I honestly am so sick of Transgender believing that we should drop all our concerns and only focus on theirs. Their belief that only their experiences matter.

    That sexual orientation is not based upon a person’s sex but people’s “identities”.

    That lesbians who only desire females are bigots, that gay men who only desire men are bigots.

    Then the whole recent penny arcade charade which I haven’t paid much attention to but basically a guy said:

    “If thinking that all women have a vagina makes me a monster, then yes, I am a monster,”

    and

    “If you use the word ‘cis’ I probably will hate you too.”

    after a barrage of trans abuse and threats (“real women have penises!!! ad nauseum) on twitter, he was basically forced to apologise.

    What a lovely “human rights” advocacy group transgenderism is.

    I wonder how many of the lesbians supporting trans issues in that survey have heard of the “cotton ceiling”, a quick google could easily sway many opinions.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Yeah, Ks, I think because most – if not all – of the “feminist” and LGBT websites totally fail to delve into the nitty-gritty of the trans movement, there are a lot of uninformed lesbians and gays out there. What’s the nitty-gritty? The things discussed here at GT – that MtT demand things like access to women’s sex-segregated places; coverage for their hormones, hair removal, and genital surgery at a time when millions of women can’t even get a mammogram or Pap smear due to lack of insurance; and the “right” to be able, as a member of an organization set up to support victims of sexual assault, to counsel women in a hospital emergency room who have just been raped. You’ll never see ANY of these things brought up at the “feminist” and LGBT sites. Why? Because they know it’ll cause a split, plus, dog forbid the womenfolk wake up and see what’s really going on. They may stop supporting the men! Politically, emotionally, and FINANCIALLY, they may stop supporting the men! Can’t have that!

      Plus, via television shows like the insipid “RuPaul’s Drag Race” and the actively violent “Transform Me”, lesbians and gays are conned into thinking that trans people – particularly MtT – are just the hippest, most adorable people evah! And we should listen and follow every word that comes spewing out of their mouths, ’cause they’re so cool and they speak from such oppreshun!

      It’s nice that lesbian and gay people strive so hard not to be mean. But now the pendulum has swung too far, and women are working against our own needs and our own safety. I don’t know how it is in Australia, or Canada, or Mexico, or across Europe or everywhere else, but here in America? Everything’s gotta be one or the other. No middle ground allowed. You’re in or you’re out. You support every trans demand or you’re a bigot. Hopefully, a more thoughtful approach will win out, as the absurdity of some trans demands come to light.

      • anonymous radical feminist Says:

        “Plus, via television shows like the insipid “RuPaul’s Drag Race” and the actively violent “Transform Me”, lesbians and gays are conned into thinking that trans people – particularly MtT – are just the hippest, most adorable people evah! And we should listen and follow every word that comes spewing out of their mouths, ’cause they’re so cool and they speak from such oppreshun!”

        Ugh. Yes, here in Australia, particularly in amongst my peers, I’ve noticed this particular trend. It’s a tragic lack of critical thinking being demonstrated, they’re just reading the media studies/cultural studies postmodernity oriented nonsense which just doesn’t match up with the reality. And here it is, in black and white!

      • Adrian Says:

        Heck, the latest line from the trans* activists about “regular” LGB people is that the LGB people are actually oppressors who are working to hide the fact that “trans women of color” supposedly started the entire gay rights movement and so that gay rights movement in fact needs to be criticized and dismantled so that the trans* people (and particularly trans WOMEN – i.e. M2T) are “centered.” They go on and on about how LGB places and centers are “standing on our backs” and all sorts of other nonsense.

        Personally I find all this “we demand the right to be counselors in rape crisis centers” and the rest of it to just be an insistence that there be NO BOUNDARIES. It’s all about forcing women to accept them as women – not about the job at all. They (as men) are simply not used to ever having any space, anywhere in the world, where they are not permitted to go – to go, and to dominate.

        If some males actually care about rape crisis centers there are ways to help without having to be on the front lines. Any centers or any movements always needs boring things like money and someone setting up access to buildings or maintaining tech infrastructure and all the rest, they could work there – but they won’t, because those jobs don’t have that coveted “accepted as women” thing happening.

      • anonymous radical feminist Says:

        “Heck, the latest line from the trans* activists about “regular” LGB people is that the LGB people are actually oppressors who are working to hide the fact that “trans women of color” supposedly started the entire gay rights movement and so that gay rights movement in fact needs to be criticized and dismantled so that the trans* people (and particularly trans WOMEN – i.e. M2T) are “centered.””

        Omfg yes, I’ve heard this too many times. It’s like they’ve read the Oppression Olympics guidebook, memorised and regurgitate it every time their fingers touch the keyboard. I don’t get it, do these people actually think just trying to think of how shitty a persons life could actually get and try and emulate that?

    • Annoyed Bi Chick Says:

      I’ve come to the conclusion that I have no idea why “T” is even part of “LGBT” anyway. “T” isn’t a sexual orientation (unless we’re going to classify autogynephilia as a “sexual orientation now), and the issues just don’t really overlap.

      Granted, and I’m being more fair than I should be here, there’s an awful lot of discussion lately about whether bisexuals exist, but that’s not the same kind of epistemological question as “does trans* exist,” not even remotely.

  2. anonymous radical feminist Says:

    Gallus, thank you so, so much for posting the link to that research. I’m always chasing stuff like this in case I need it in my studies (and just because it’s important to know!) so really appreciate the link and the research.

    It’ll be good to be able to cite this research and this entry!

    I think it’s really interesting to note that even though so many trans individuals online bang on about how they are attacked and assaulted at great length, this survey at least, would indicate that this is not the case.

    And the lack of common interest as well! Not really a surprise there though either.

    That blog entry is thoroughly creepy. It seems to be a case of total narcissism. Ugh.

    Ks “What a lovely “human rights” advocacy group transgenderism is.”

    It’s remarkably narrow-sighted and selfish isn’t it?

    Reminds me of this trans-tumblr I saw the other day where the dude said he believed in “cis-critical feminism” aka “female critical feminism”.

    So much do not want😦

  3. michelle Says:

    Comments on the Bilerico page were typical in their nature…all of twanz-land seems to feel that they are above being fired for non-performance. I have no doubt they would be offering different opinions had it not been ‘one of their own’ who got fired.

    No organization does well with the level of in-fighting that seems from the various reports to have been present with OS, and if they aren’t getting the job done, then someone gets the ax and new blood gets brought in. Same thing would happen in any competently-run organization. Why trans thinks they get a free pass just boggles the mind…in fact, the irony is that they clamor for people’s heads when they feel like they are being ignored and not made the focus of the efforts.

  4. Versa Says:

    So now there’s a distinction between “males” and “male-bodied people”? But if it’s a female penis, then doesn’t that make it a female body (with a penis)?

    I don’t understand.

  5. EqualRightsAndProtection Says:

    OUTSERVE is past its due date. It’s time to let it go into the pagebooks of history.

    Transgenders are not eligible to serve in the US Military because they are subject to a medical issue that is drug and surgery dependent. We don’t have any diabetics in the military either.

    Maybe OUTSERVE can re-brand and re-market itself to go after the Boy Scouts.

  6. Political Cynic Says:

    GAY PEOPLE HAVE NO INTEREST IN SUPPORTING GENDERISM.

    You know, this may actually be the best answer I’ve found to why I am a gay man who is not a feminist. Feminism is about “women” (whether I agree or disagree with them-and I often disagree with them) is a different question. At the root of the matter is “I’m a GAY man-the issue for me is therefore about treatment of GAY men-NOT about women and not about genderism of any sort”

    Nicely said. Thank you! Perhaps I should have a bumper sticker made….LOL

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Wow. Alrighty then.

    • moira Says:

      You do realize, Mr. Troll, that as a gay man you are targeted because straight men believe you are “like a woman?” That if women had status and power, this would not result in what you call homophobia, really just a special form of sexism that can be directed at “woman-like” men?

    • Guls Says:

      I wonder what belies your flippancy, though? It IS genderism that causes untold difficulties for gay men, lesbians and bisexual folk. In a sane world, there would be no ‘coming out’ because we’d all be ‘in’ to begin with. As much as feminism is about women, and restoring their condition, I do believe it exposes truths and points up solutions which could benefit all of us; restore some sanity to this insane world. Maybe that’s not a priority for you, though: maybe attending to you is more important than social justice? As a man I can understand that but that doesn’t make it right, and I suspect that many lesbians’ understanding of being ‘gay’ in a heterosexist climate is somewhat different. As men we can always play sexuality to our advantage, but it would be presumptuous to believe that that holds true for everyone.

      p.s. you were probably trolling, but since GM ok’d your comment and I thought it was illustrative…

  7. Survivorthriver Says:

    Today in Seattle Times is an article on “Transgender People Say They Are Ready for the Spotlight” by Lornet Turnbull. Go and comment on that article, please.

    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2021257244_transpridexml.html

    Oh, how amazing, they do not ALLOW public comments, so I sent the link to this article to the reporter.

    BTW, our local “Women Solstice” camp out got nearly cancelled due to MtT who attended last year, wore skimpy bikini bathing suit and exposed a hanging out penis to a preschool group of girls. “She” got very angry that she was asked NOT to attend in 2013 and threatened to go after their sponsor NGO Women of Wisdom that has been around since 1972. Ugh! The Women Solstice cancelled the lovely campgroupd they’d been going to for decades and are meeting privately with no endorsements or sponsors or help publicizing in a private venue. U gh! A lot of the women were disheartened and didn’t know much at MtT troublemakers. Now we have Katie Lynn educating them.

    Thanks for the research, lapsed het here, and friend of dykes who would’ve been Chaz’d had they lived earlier.

    Big Pharma love the lifelong drug treatment. So do Frankendoctors getting rich. What a crock.

    • anonymous radical feminist Says:

      “BTW, our local “Women Solstice” camp out got nearly cancelled due to MtT who attended last year, wore skimpy bikini bathing suit and exposed a hanging out penis to a preschool group of girls. “She” got very angry that she was asked NOT to attend in 2013 and threatened to go after their sponsor NGO Women of Wisdom that has been around since 1972. Ugh! The Women Solstice cancelled the lovely campgroupd they’d been going to for decades and are meeting privately with no endorsements or sponsors or help publicizing in a private venue. U gh! A lot of the women were disheartened and didn’t know much at MtT troublemakers. Now we have Katie Lynn educating them.”

      =( those poor girls, Jesus fuck. I hope they’re okay. This is so horrifying.

      It never ceases to amaze how many of these males are predatory creeps does it? These male to trans, the medical professionals who profit from this.

      This so-called “sex-reassignment surgery” needs to be declared as what it is; genital mutilation surgery. There needs to be some serious fucking steps taken to stop these mentally ill people continuing from doing long term harm to girls and women, themselves and others.

    • Versa Says:

      Good lord! Where does the madness end? When will the mainstream wake up and see this horrendous farce for the nonsense that it is?

  8. Anon Male Says:

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/us/colorado-transgender-girl-school/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

    Yay, the same week as affirmative action suffers a blow! But the two subjects cannot be connected. Bad brain!

  9. Adrian Says:

    ♪”Wayne’s World, it’s Wayne’s World! It’s party time, it’s excellent!”♪

    …sorry. Just came to mind when I saw the pic up above.

    Meanwhile, Salon has an article today that apparently Coy Mathis, the six-year-old M2T (well, no medical treatment yet, obviously) has won the right in court to use the girls’ bathroom at school.

    The article has NO mention of any of the odder aspects of the story, including the fact that he’s one of a set of triplets, that the mom first thought he was trans when he went for a pink blanket rather than blue at the age of five months (I only WISH I were kidding), that the one girl triplet had an accident and is severely permanently brain damaged, that the mother was in the news with all three kids (over the girl’s accident) when they were around three years old and at the time there was NO MENTION of Coy possibly being trans (the stuff about the blanket at 5 months came out in later interviews).

    Comments to the article are as you’d expect, there are a few believers in brain sex in there calling everyone else bigots because of course “all psychiatrists” know that innate gender and brain sex is real, now, etc.

    None of the comments bring up any of the odder aspects of the story either.

    • michelle Says:

      LOL! I feel better knowing that I am not alone in having a flashback to the image of Garth.

      as to Coy Mathis, I didn’t read everything all the way through, but I thought it was just an administrative ruling that can be appealed TO the courts. Naturally the family mouthpiece is saying that it would make no sense for the District to pursue the matter since the child is no longer in school IN the District (never mind that the decision has set a horrible and potentially binding precedent if left unchecked).

      The lamestream media is too afraid to highlight the odder aspects to the story precisely because they don’t want to offend the menz who cry ‘transphobia.’

    • moira Says:

      Wow, Adrian. The implications are potentially awful. A cursory search brought me here: http://fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-one-where-i-weigh-in-on.html

      I may go down the rabbit hole on this one. This woman says she knows the mom and that the mom has tried to publicize her family many times for many reasons…

      • Adrian Says:

        Yep. Exactly.

        Even if someone believed in the whole trans narrative, there’s just no way this case is as simple and obvious “well of course she’s trans! They know as small children! You must believe!” as the supporters say it is.

    • Versa Says:

      I thought it was quite odd enough that the school offered Coy two alternatives to the boys’ restroom (the nurse’s restroom, and the gender-neutral faculty restroom) but these were not good enough. No, he has to force himself into female-only space; nothing else will do.

      I also thought it odd that he’s listed as a girl on his passport, but that’s another rant.

      The story about the pink blanket is truly disturbing. I guess five-month-old babies are expected to know that our society a hundred or so years ago chose pink for females and blue for males, despite numerous recommendations to the contrary. Methinks this little boy is a perfectly normal little boy with an insane mother who has brainwashed him into thinking he has gender dysphoria because he wasn’t born with knowledge of our culture’s silliness. Poor kid! And he’ll probably end up mutilated and sterilized because of Mom’s insanity. Anyone wanna call CPS?

    • TonyM Says:

      “Comments to the article are as you’d expect, there are a few believers in brain sex in there calling everyone else bigots because of course “all psychiatrists” know that innate gender and brain sex is real, now, etc.”

      I’m sometimes afraid to comment online exactly because of this sort of attack. They speak from such positions of authority. It would be nice if there was a place online where all of the standard tropes they trot out could easily be debunked. Like somewhere where you could copy/paste a response refuting the “all psychiatrists” and “all doctors believe in transgendered children”, or “female brain studies”, or “ALL transitioners are happier” myths.

  10. Bev Jo Says:

    Don’t so many of their smug male faces in male-identified “female” drag look the same? Center of attention and with the Lesbians at last!

    It is heart-breaking to see older recently-out Lesbians say with such gratitude how their het family are proving acceptance for them by lecturing people who dare to call men “he” instead of “she.” It’s heart-breaking to see Lesbians who should know better publicly performing and declaring how much harder men who pretend to be women have it than Lesbians (note that these Lesbians often completely pass as het.) Everyone one has it worse than Lesbians is such a Lesbian-hating myth.

    What to do though? And what would we do without you, Gallus Mag, keeping us all alerted to the male games, and then some of the victories that give hope that people are finally realizing. May all who try to bring you down have that return on them.

    Meanwhile, it does have to be a matter of time before it becomes clear just how male and female-hating these men are. I mean, you don’t have to be around them for long to see it.

  11. Motherhood Says:

    Re: Coy Mathis–seems like in this interview Mom, the wack job makes not mention of her son Coy being a girl.
    http://visionarymom.com/an-interview-with-kathryn-mathis/

    • Adrian Says:

      EXACTLY. And when that interview was done, Coy was 3 and a half.

      The usual “trans narrative” has the kids all “knowing what gender they are” at around 2 or 3 years old. Comments on that Salon article and anywhere else people show up calling anyone who questions Coy being a “girl” haters always stress that point, how it’s so acknowledged by all psychiatry now, etc.

      Never do they ever seem to acknowledge this interview (or other mentions around the web from the same time). Bottom line is, at 3 and a half, Coy was treated as a boy, apparently considered himself a boy, and had no particular stress about it, his mother doesn’t even mention it anywhere.

      Only after that does she then start in with the trans thing and brings up the story of the blanket (he wanted a pink blanket at 5 months of age, oh no, stop the presses).

      She was active on various Mommy boards and you can find people who know her personally or from those boards commenting on some earlier news articles about the case, usually they are the first ones calling shenanigans on the whole trans thing (and getting called haters, of course).

    • Anon Male Says:

      So two basically unemployed people with a gaggle of kids (that weren’t accidental pregnancies but pharma-assisted?) And they’re bragging about it everyone? Do they not see the white privilege in that?

      • Ashland Avenue Says:

        I noticed that too, Anon Male. If they were black or anything other than white, they would be being crucified right now.

  12. margeaux Says:

    Coy’s mom is a big fan of do-it-yourself pharmaceuticals.
    http://fourtimesthefun.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-one-where-i-weigh-in-on.html

  13. luckynkl Says:

    Trans are no different than their knuckle dragging brothers. They are cowardly, sadistic bullies and genetically brain damaged Y chromosomed mutants, which makes them prone to violence, sadism, narcissism, and delusions of grandeur.

    Men hate women. They would like to wipe women off the face of the planet and do so every day. Until women are physically able to stop men, men will not only continue to do whatever they please to women, their bullying, rape, and suffocating oppressiveness will escalate.

    At what point do women stop putting up with men’s shit? Women have tremendous power. Far greater than men’s. The problem is women won’t use it. Women need to start using it. If women do so collectively, I guarantee that men will cease to be a problem and will never bother anyone again.

    • femmeforever Says:

      They are cowardly, sadistic bullies ……. prone to violence, sadism, narcissism, and delusions of grandeur.

      Men hate women. They would like to wipe women off the face of the planet and do so every day. Until women are physically able to stop men, men will not only continue to do whatever they please to women, their bullying, rape, and suffocating oppressiveness will escalate.

      At what point do women stop putting up with men’s shit? Women have tremendous power. Far greater than men’s. The problem is women won’t use it. Women need to start using it. If women do so collectively, I guarantee that men will cease to be a problem and will never bother anyone again.

      *APPLAUSE*

      *MORE APPLAUSE*

    • BadDyke Says:

      “At what point do women stop putting up with men’s shit? Women have tremendous power. Far greater than men’s. The problem is women won’t use it. ”

      Sorry (whoops, authentic female training there anyone spot it?), but I WON’T put up with this blame women for their own continued oppression shit.

      Plus your posts sounds a little formulaic and insincere to me…………………….Parody almost.

      • luckynkl Says:

        So what’s your solution, BadDyke? Piss, moan, whine, cry and complain? Write harsh words? No doubt that will make men change their ways and liberate women. Not!

        I don’t know how to break it to you, but it’s only in the movies that the cavalry arrives in the nick of time to save the damsels in distress. That doesn’t happen in real life. There will be no cavalry arriving to rescue us, k? Which leaves what? It means the only ones we can depend on to get us out of this mess is ourselves and the solution has to come from us, no? In which case, the first step is for women to decide they’re not going to put up with it or take it any more, which will in turn motivate women to do something about it, no? See how that works?

        Tell you what. You can stay home, k? I certainly don’t blame you or any woman for being afraid. You’d better be afraid. Men are going to fight back with everything they’ve got. For those of us who have nothing left to lose and aren’t afraid to take the risks, we’re going to be the ones who kick off the revolution. So consider my post a litmus test to see if enough women are ready for a revolution yet or not. Obviously you’re not. That’s ok. Others are.

    • Versa Says:

      I agree that women do have tremendous power, but don’t use it. It would be so easy if all women would band together in solidarity and refuse to put up with the shit. But many of the people perpetuating the shit are themselves women.

      A simple example is this: recently on a friend’s Facebook page I saw a young woman harshly condemning some guy’s “baby mama” for wanting to receive child support (which is for the CHILD) and saying basically that the mother shouldn’t have “opened her legs” unless she was prepared to provide for the baby 100% by herself.

      What in hell? I was outraged that a female was saying this. I wanted to scream and slap her silly. And yes, of course, It would be no less offensive coming from a man, but… I guess I expect women to know better. And so many don’t.

      Geez, am I just as sexist as the people I complain about? Expecting women to know better than men? That’s been one of our biggest problems throughout history, especially around sexual issues, hasn’t it?

      Hmm… maybe I need to go reconsider….

  14. Ashland Avenue Says:

    Wow. Following the links you all have left, one doesn’t have to go far to bump up against the crazy with the mom. First, while she’s working as an independent family photographer (we know how that brings in the big bucks), and her husband was (is? I don’t know) a “full-time student”, she sends away to Mexico for fertility drugs. She then has the triplets, for a total of four children. Well, that seems like sound financial planning to me! Or not. I’m leanin’ toward not.

    But I found this quote from her at the Visionary Mom blog telling: “My big big dream is to become known as THE newborn photographer to go to. To have people fly from other states for me or fly me to them, because they love my work that much.” Riiiiiight. Because the first thing parents of a newborn want to do is hop on a plane, with its germs and recycled air, with that quite-vulnerable-to-viruses tiny infant. Or to pay airfare and hotel for a photographer to be flown in! Sure, why not? It’s just money, no biggie! So there’s more than a little…lack of realistic expectations going on here.

    Another quote from Kathryn as to how she gets through the day: “Lots of TV for the kids, lots of root beer for me, ha! That is typically how the day goes when I have things I need to get accomplished though. My office is set up right next to the kids playroom, so they play and get to watch favorite shows while I work.” Hmmmmm….I’m going to give Kathryn the benefit of the doubt, and hope that the kids watch “lots of TV” only on days when she’s exceptionally busy, but that sure as hell isn’t anything I’d blurt out in an interview.

    Kathryn also delivered her triplets at home. O.K., I’m very pro-midwife, pro-homebirth, but with triplets?! Pregnancies of multiples have a host of built-in risk factors, to mom and babies, and no amount of granola wishful thinking can make those go away. One mother mentioned in the comments section how the EMTs had to be called, but I don’t know if that’s the case or not.

    I’m not even going to delve into the using a natural healer to treat her daughter Lily’s RSV, which ended up morphing into meningitis and forever severely crippling her. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but if so, holy crap.

    Then there’s the simple fact that Coy’s parents have dragged him onto national TV to publicize his case. Way to respect your kid’s privacy, folks! Anyway, there’s so much batshittery going on with this case that begs attention – but I doubt any of it will see the light of day.

    • GallusMag Says:

      And Kathryn’s child photography website was suspended because Kathryn claims several people reported her naked photos of children as child pornography.

      I did a whole work-up of this story some time ago but never got around to posting it. Not sure I ever will. The whole thing is super super sad and depressing.


      • Gallus, I would also like to read your article on Coy Mathis.

        I cannot believe this crap. Especially after reading about Kathryn’s previous behaviour.
        Although a commenter stated (on that link to the woman who knew Kathryn from triplet forums) that sometimes women are born with penises. What the fuck!? No, they aren’t. Science is not hard. *headdesk*

        I am even more enraged reading about Senator Wendy Davis standing for 10 fucking hours to stop Texas from pushing through more anti-female, anti-abortion legislation.

        MtT get special rights and we get fucked over.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Coy Mathis: The honey-boo boo of transgender I was gonna title it. LOL

      • Versa Says:

        I’d like to read it, if you have time to wrap it up and post it. 🙂

        The growing trend of parents deciding that their small children are trans is a whole different level of messed up. As if it weren’t already messed up enough when middle-aged adults declare themselves to be trans.

      • Adrian Says:

        Heh. Honey Boo Boo indeed…

      • moira Says:

        This is a can’t win story. On the way up, it’s about dubious gender identity law; on the way down, it will be a mother-blaming fest. Misogyny both ways.

      • GallusMag Says:

        @moira- agree. It’s a lose/lose proposition. At least as a stand-alone story.

        Also, this story stinks up the works so much that I wonder if any nuanced feminist gender critique is really needed in response. I mean, the bullshit is all so blatant to the public at large with this one. Just have a glance at the comments on the NYT article. Folks aint buying what’s being sold here.

      • Ashland Avenue Says:

        Moira, you bring up a really good point about the mother-blaming. As I was writing my above post about the mom, I was worried that I was focusing too much on her and not on the responsibility of Coy’s father in this mess, and I obviously did. Coy’s father Jeremy has apparently gone along with Kathryn every step of the way, and I should’ve included him. Also, as I was writing that post, I felt a bit like I was joining in on a mob attack on the mom. BUT. There are many factors of her actions that do bear scrutiny or questioning, I think. There seem to be a lot of mothers out there quite familiar with her due to her posts on mothering.com and IRL, and they are questioning some of her actions as well. But Moira, you’re absolutely right in that Kathryn will be the one everyone focuses on, because a) she’s the mother, and therefore female; and b) she has a larger web presence. In my post, I made that mistake too, and I apologize for that.

      • moira Says:

        On the other hand, you are sort of the “paper of record” in many ways.

      • moira Says:

        Ashland, what a thoughtful reply! It’s difficult not to be extremely upset with mothers who act like this. I was, and I was similarly upset with the mother who was taking her kid for hormone blockers, testosterone, and breast removal at 15 because she’s “really a boy.” I think that of course the fathers are equally implicated, but it’s no accident that the mothers are leading this charge. They seem to me to be acting out of internalized misogyny of a high order. (These two struck me as probably survivors of direct sexual abuse in childhood, not just the cultural kind.) In my own family, women did some of the most intimate damage when it came to my noncompliance with heterosexuality and its norms. When I read Daly it gave me useful perspective on that phenomenon. It’s part of what we’re taught to pass down to each other. This is our female inheritance. I don’t excuse these mothers but I recognize that they are not lone actors. They’re caught in a machine they don’t even see, and feeding their daughters into its gears. To do otherwise would require heroic perception and strength–the kind that comes fairly easily from authentic connections with other women. Which is why our culture make such connections so difficult to achieve.

      • Em Says:

        @moira 4:58 PM

        It’s not really so different from women who push clitoridectomies and infibulation on their daughters. Very interesting question as to where the responsibility of individual women leaves off, and the responsibility of patriarchy begins.

        What part of Daly addresses this issue directly? Seems I need a review.

      • moira Says:

        @Em–I was thinking of Gyn/Ecology, where Daly explains why men set up women/mothers to be the ones who perform the patriarchally-required disfigurement of their daughters, whatever form it may take.

    • Adrian Says:

      Yeah. Whether there was anything that could have prevented the meningitis accident and brain damage or not, the fact is there were three triplets – two boys, one girl. Then the girl is rendered severely brain-damaged for life, and only AFTER that, wow, turns out one of the boy triplets ends up being “trans” – according to mom. This despite that at 3 and a half, Mom doesn’t say a thing about him being trans and he seems a normally adjusted boy, not even wearing anything particularly “femmy,” there’s no talk of him mentioning wanting to be a girl, any of it.

      LATER of course Mom recalls he wanted the pink blanket at 5 months and so of course! she recognizes aha, that’s the problem all along, he’s trans.

      She then takes him on all the talk shows, at the point where he’s getting to an age where he has a sense of self and continuity in his life story. He hears this story of his life, and how he’s trans, and isn’t that special, over and over again. The whole family has to fight for him to get to use the girls’ room, etc, with lawyers and the whole deal, all over the media. A lot of people are sacrificing a lot for him, and he’s at an age now where he definitely can tell that.

      Oh but he’s not being influenced by Mom. Of course not…

      • Ashland Avenue Says:

        And what happens now if Coy changes his mind? After all this attention and grandstanding, I bet he’d feel more than a little pressure to keep wearing the dresses.

  15. Motherhood Says:

    The future does not look good for this kid. The second the mom stops getting the attention and or money from this it will be bad. How long the dog and pony show will run? Who should be investigated is the medical community that took part–I promise an MSW is in there. Some half wit talking two spirit gibberish and feeling radical and smug and telling the mother how great she is.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      LOL! Gotta love that “two-spirit” crap. I half expect them to be floating a foot off the ground and waving a wand with glitter on it. Lots of glitter.

  16. Motherhood Says:

    I just looked at The Advocate’s piece most of the comments were not raving with support and many were rightly questioning. This will back fire–can’t use kids.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Autumn Sandeen says they NEED kids to erase or obscure the sexual fetishism that informs transgenderism for most of the adult males.

      • Ashland Avenue Says:

        Aaaaaaand yet another instance of Stephen Mark Sandeen’s complete assholery. God, what a creep.

      • Motherhood Says:

        Sandeen is correct they do need to deflect the fetish, cover that reality up as quick as possible by any means necessary. Make it look legit with poster children. But these kids do not represent the majority. Many of the kids I suspect are very gay boys and what used to be called tom boys–thats what will be erased, along with women having any rights. Why? Because a hetero male gets a hard on from crappy 80’s style clothes. Makes sense right?

    • druidwinter Says:

      @Motherhood: ‘Feminists’ are being blamed by the Men’s groups for pushing the medicating with hormones /transforming of children, There is no mention of the transgender activists involvement, and apparently, women are causing men to become transgender..[Read some of the comments if you need a good laugh]
      http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/11/lionel-tiger-mens/

      • Motherhood Says:

        @Druidwinter, OMG–what an idiot. My take away was that in his male educated opinion women are castrating bitches from the get go and as mothers and teachers they can’t handle male so they go to the male pediatrician to drug little Johnny. Never mind that little Johnny has clocked in 40 hours a week of violence on TV, and toys. The guy is wacked but he reflects a male POV that gets played out and framed I think in all kinds of ways. It is the castrating bitch argument, hell hath no fury like a women. Trans is a male thing–which is not to say that many trans feel the same way about women as he does because trans is misogynistic.

  17. margeaux Says:

    Munchausen by Internet at least. And she probably can’t wait for Coy to get HRT so they can share their meds.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Would parents of one of the “celebrity trans kids” go so far as to dose them with black market hormones? I shudder to think. Who knows how far people will go for money fame and attention. Look what parents do to the girls in those child beauty pageants. *shudder

      • Motherhood Says:

        People will go far when driven by compulsions. And when compulsion meets a political movement or invents one as a ruse or rides the coat tails of one and there is money or power to be gotten–perfect storm.

      • Teal Deer Says:

        I was thinking about that last night. If she felt it was okay to illegally procure fertility drugs for herself, what’s to stop the Mathises from getting black market puberty blockers and hormones for their poor kid?

  18. Chocolattruffaut Says:

    This discussion reminds me of something I recently saw on something called Debunking Cis Privilege (http://debunkingcis.livejournal.com/ go down to “Trans People and Sex”). Apparently, us so called “ciswomen” fit the definition of autogynephilia more so than transwomen!

    I was seeing red after that, it took a lot of puppy videos to calm me down.

    I can honestly say that never in the whole of history has a woman become so sexually aroused by purchasing shoes or a handbag that she had to rent a hotel room for marathon masturbation.

    And then there’s just the classic misogyny of it-women are so sexually insatiable and deviant that “being/looking like a whore” comes naturally to them! And how dare women derive sexual pleasure form their own bodies, don’t they know they’re just supposed to lie back and think of England?

    I can;t believe the insanity of it all, the internet is becoming like a digital Handmaid’s Tale.

  19. GallusMag Says:

    Well well well what a timely development to underline the message of this post. Today DOMA was overturned and the effort to appeal Prop 8 was dismissed. Buh Bye Gay Money! Buy bye Gay Movement winding down! Buh bye gay money being used parasitically by a conservative homophobic gender movement that would love to see all butch girls and nancy boys pro-actively sterilized in case of trans. See the money being sucked from gay orgs by transgenders going bye bye now! Wave goodbye trans movement! Wave goodbye to the gay money! The MAJORITY of the LG and even the B(!) feel they have NO POLITICAL ISSUES IN COMMON WITH YOU WHATSOEVER! Go find that crossdresser money! Go find that “chaser” money! Hit up some closet autogynephilles for some dough! You’re gonna need it, trans movement. You’re on your own.

    • Motherhood Says:

      GM, your face between my palms–cheek kiss left, cheek kiss right, curtsy.

      Good god I hope so, the quicker the better. I for one am not done because they are going to keep it up. These narcissistic idiots think they are going to play themselves as the last civil rights cause. And the medical quack money and greed riding on this. And then certain types that imagine themselves as liberals also may want to nurse this until they realize.

      Here’s trans logic–a guy with the diaper fetish demands to legally be declared an infant and it’s bigoted hatred if people back away when he shits in the diaper.

  20. moss Says:

    I’m not sure if the gay-marriage laws stuff will push away the T from LGB; there will likely be an uptick in anti-gay violence and I think that bullies consider ‘trans’ to be a kind of ultra-gay so there may be more reported transes getting bashed along with the gays, which could make them do the ‘we’re all in this together’ kind of thing.

  21. Motherhood Says:

    A new study–the guys really want to be in the bathroom. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/06/26/2216781/transgender-bathroom-study/
    A survey. Well can’t we do a survey. And then add the names of T in prison for rape and murder. And maybe a survey of women threatened by T. I wish I could figure out how much Jon Stryker funds.

  22. Bev Jo Says:

    I recently went to see the US premier of Lesbiana, one of the only films to depict some of our Radical Lesbian Feminist and Separatist history. The director, Myriam Fougere, was amazed it was even allowed to be shown at the San Francisco “LGBTQetc.” film festival. And it was amazing there was no protest because the word “trans” was no said once in the film.

    But at the lunch afterward, a local Lesbian was telling Myriam that during her very short visit in SF she should go to the “Transgender March” (they have already gotten onto the board of the Dyke March for the first time.) I said, “Why?” The woman look shocked and said, “Don’t you want to support them?” I said, “Why? They are a myth. No man can be a woman. They have taken everything from us. EVERYTHING. We have no women only space left.” She brought up the boy whose parents put into international media and what did I think about him wanting to use the girls’ bathroom at school. I said, “What about the girls? When I was a girl, I sure would not have wanted any boys in our bathroom.”

    At the theater, they handed out copies of a mainstream glossy Lesbian magazine, Curve, which I always hated since it is clearly ad-supported and very male-identified feminine, pushing fashion, makeup, and sado-masochism. But I hadn’t seen it in years and was surprised to see that half of it was about trans, and using the crap language of submission they order us to use, like “cis.” What a takeover.

    I read last week that the murder rate between M2T trannies is very high. Not surprising, for those most male of men.

  23. elfkat Says:

    Reblogged this on Adventures and Musings of a Hedgewitch and commented:
    Read thru the comments too!


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