Translesbians = Living the Porn Life

March 8, 2014

 

ewwwwww trans lesbians

 

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https://www.facebook.com/Lezlovetgirls

 

76 Responses to “Translesbians = Living the Porn Life”

  1. redhester Says:

    wow. no other words. WOW.

  2. anon male Says:

    Cyrsti? It’s hard not to read into that choice what he feels women are supposed to be (non serious, trivially ornamental), given it was a choice. But still, even after I figured it out, it still sounds like a medical condition.

    I love how trans have interpreted the fight against Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell as uncritical acceptance of the military.

  3. GallusMag Says:

    Bye “areader”. Enjoy your porn bro.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Finally got a little too transplainy, did he? 😉

      • GallusMag Says:

        What an asshole he turned out to be. I deleted last nights exchange so as not to derail this thread. But yeah, he’s done here.

      • Lint Says:

        LOL too bad I missed that, but whatever, I had the feeling “areader” was an asshole.

    • a reader Says:

      I left a comment yesterday about how the tags you used to describe this post were amusing — what the heck?

      • a reader Says:

        Amusing in a “covered all the bases” kind of way, to clarify, as well as in a “how can this be anything but funny” kind of way after searching out the blog. If anything happened after that comment, I didn’t get a chance to see it, but apologize if it derailed the conversation.

      • GallusMag Says:

        You said:

        Submitted on 2014/03/08 at 6:23 am
        Quite possibly the best tags on a post ever. I laughed, I cried. Would read again. 10/10!

        As for the actual post – total confusion, which lead to a google search of the blog, which lead to 10 reasons why not to google bizarro blogs that GallusMag has the displeasure of finding.

        —————–

        I said:

        Submitted on 2014/03/08 at 7:01 am | In reply to a reader.
        “Bizzaro blogs”? Really? Trans icon Julia Serano just wrote an entire fucking book complaining about lesbians for rejecting male partners. Please name a SINGLE trans activist who disagrees with Cyrsti’s post. JUST ONE.

        I get that you are trying to do “damage control” for your bros. But frankly, your dishonesty in framing this as “some kooky fringe bizarro thang” that I dug up somewhere is completely offensive and GASLIGHTING to those of us who are actually LIVING with your brethren forcing yourselves into our spaces, silencing us, etc. We actually EXPERIENCE these pricks showing up in our lesbian spaces. We have to DEAL with this IN REAL LIFE. Your brothers are DESTROYING our ability to gather and congregate.

        “Those cwazy bizarro blogs”? This is the MAINSTREAM of YOUR movement, and apparently you are here simply to reframe the mainstream of your movement as somehow “fringe” or, as someone stated “no true scotsman”.

        You may WISH that this was “cwazy fringe bizzaro” stuff, but it is completely the mainstream of your movement. DEAL with THAT and do so without degrading my work and gaslighting the women who are talking about it. Holy shit dude. Pretending this is not happening MAKES YOU A LIAR. Makes you NO DIFFERENT from any “women rape tooo” ASSHOLE.

        GET A GRIP.

        The next comment from you like this and you will be banned for EXTREME LYING ASSHOLISM.

        ————-

        Submitted on 2014/03/08 at 7:08 am | In reply to a reader.
        The total fucking DISHONESTY of you framing this screen capped post as somehow MISREPRESENTATIVE is SO egregiously AGGRESSIVE and INDEFENSIBLE. What the FUCK?

        Submitted on 2014/03/08 at 7:15 am | In reply to a reader.
        Yanno what don’t bother. You are banned FOREVER. FUCK OFF LYING SHITBAG.

        ——————–

        There you have it folks.

        @areader- there are plenty of gender critical male blogs for you to utilize. Good luck with that. Take care.

  4. flahe Says:

    Wow that entire fb site is incredible. There is a post comparing intercourse with a pre op male to strap on sex with ‘really butch lesbians’. Ah yes lesbians especially butch lesbians are basically men. Strap ons and dildos are basically penises, totally. Such a new position never heard that before, outside of pomo circles.

    Sorry for the horrendous grammar, english is my second language and sometimes I can tell that stuff is off but not what I need to change.

  5. liberalsareinsane Says:

    Neither you or your gf are lesbians, numbnuts. It’s amazing how that word has been hijacked by every group…because of porn.

  6. branjor Says:

    They’re disgusting. I’m so glad I’m not a male.

  7. Ashland Avenue Says:

    That…picture. They’re…doing it wrong. Licking each other’s tongues? WTF?

    ANYway, that Facebook page! Such fun! Lots of laffs! Lots of glitter and sparkles and pink cotton-candy hair! And filled with choice nuggets such as: “No rudeness and no fake lesbians allowed.” I guess we’re supposed to ignore the fact that it’s fake lesbians who are running the fucking page, but whatever…

    The “no rudeness” part is followed by these:

    “It seems bisexual men like my ex seem to understand trans women more then those stupid judgmental lesbians who say eww no I won’t date a chick with a dick or not my cup of tea yeah um I’m gonna change the lesbian meaning one day so that all lesbians whether they be hermanphrodit women or trans women or genetic women can date one another without getting judged by Genetic girls.”

    (“Hermanphrodit” FTW!!)

    Or, above a picture of Ellen making a joke about the movement involved in using a shakeweight: “To goldstar pathetic genetic women .That does include never giving a trans women m t f pre op a chance because she has a oblonged clit which looks like a male part um yeah fuck you….”

    (“Oblonged clit” FTW!!)

    And of course one of the admins (“JennaFoot girl”) is quite proud of his foot fetish. Frankly, I don’t know whether to be more offended by the rampant stereotypes of femininity on display, or the sheer illiteracy of the whole damn trainwreck. Oh trannies, you just can’t help yourselves, can ya?

    • GallusMag Says:

      “…so regardless of your giant clit Jenna, it can happen if the girl gets past her ideas of what lesbian sex is.” LOLOLOL

      • shediogenes Says:

        ok, so if a penis is a giant clit, wtf are balls? “bloated labia”? “external ovaries”? wtf is sperm? er, uh, nevermind, I don’t want to know. gotta run, I think my ovaries are about to drop

  8. anoner55 Says:

    I’m noticing that transgender males are trying to cash in on International Women’s Day. Dudes, it’s not about you.

  9. anon Says:

    “This is a page for games and awareness for trans mtf and cis lesbians who can start dating each other. No rudeness and fake lesbians allowed.”

    “trans lesbian” = fake lesbian = het male, women who date “trans lesbian” = not lesbian. “trans lesbians” should just date each other and go rub their “trans lesbian” lady-dicks together till they drop off and leave women alone.

  10. Adrian Says:

    “No fake lesbians allowed.”

    Well. It’s all good then! *eyeroll*


    • Now its: “no vagina only cis girls allowed”


      • @Lilly

        “Now its: “no vagina only cis girls allowed””

        Hilarious, seeing as there were no ‘cis’ girls on there at all to begin with. Just doods.

        And I love how they can dictate who can be in THEIR groups but if we say “Females only” or “women born women only” we’re all transphobic bitches that are ugly and fat and “too ugli [SIC] to get raped”.


  11. Why the hell don’t these dudes just date each other?? They can pretend their penises are female organs and leave actual lesbians alone.

    • Adrian Says:

      Because they’re looking for that sweet, sweet validation that only comes when they get an actual woman to accept them as women.

      • flahe Says:

        But not even a female is truely enough. Because in general the discussion is always about lesbians. Bisexuals who are actually open to both are not a topic or object of desire at all. Since I am bi I might overstep my boundaries by saying that I find this resistance to label yourself bi if you are into penis aswell (if not on non transgendered males) quite weird. That doesn’t even have to do with wether or not you accept trans women as real women, it just means centering sexuality on sex not gender.

    • Lint Says:

      Excellent question. I would love to see a survey of MtTs who would consider dating other MtTs. It seems like all of them are looking for a woman– you know a real one with a vagina.

    • Em Says:

      Because sexual access to females is a male privilege. Males are entitled to exercise a preference for female partners but females are not. (More generally: males are entitled to have criteria for which partners they will accept, but females are not. The female role is to acquiesce in being chosen by the male.)

  12. sharonredwood Says:

    What about HIV, STDs, and the possibility of pregnancy? Any female who is going to have sex with a male has to worry about all of these things. It doesn’t matter if he dresses in a skirt and has hot makeup and a cool blonde wig. If he still has his penis, HIV, STDs, and pregnancy can’t be ruled out.

    Isn’t it true that transwomen have a high rate of HIV? That is, compared to biological females who aren’t I.V. drug users.

  13. sharonredwood Says:

    “There is a post comparing intercourse with a pre op male to strap on sex with ‘really butch lesbians’”

    A strap on won’t make you pregnant, and if it’s cleaned, it’s not going to spread HIV or STDs. Simple soap and water will do it. If a condom breaks, women better pray that the male isn’t HIV positive.

    Lesbians do NOT have a penis, and not all butch lesbians use a strap on. It’s a fact that HIV rates are very low in lesbians. I think there have only been one or two cases of actual female to female transmission.

    Screwing males, whether in drag or otherwise, is a great way to introduce HIV and STDs into the lesbian community.

  14. sharonredwood Says:

    I haven’t found anything on this facebook page about safe sex. It’s like, yeah, they can be pre-op (still has his penis), but if they identify as a girl, there is nothing to worry about.

  15. sharonredwood Says:

    “Transgender women were 49 times more likely to have HIV compared to a reference population, according to a new study on transgender women and HIV”.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/transgender-women-49-times-likely-hiv-study_n_3000094.html

    This is from a study in the British medical journal The Lancet.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2812%2970326-2/fulltext?_eventId=login

    It’s rather shocking to me because I haven’t run across anything about safe sex on this facebook page. They are encouraging females to have sex with males, but safe sex doesn’t even enter the picture. Many MTFs have been known to dabble in prostitution. I’m not saying all of them, but after reading about transgender Janet Mock’s adventures as a teenage prostitute, what sane woman would want to have sex with him?

    • Lint Says:

      That is shocking, Sharon. I had no idea MtTs were 49 times more likely to have HIV. WOW.

      As for the prostitution angle, I thought most of the MtTs who did that were the ones who want to sleep with men, not the ones who want to sleep with women. I don’t know weather or not I’m off base about that… maybe someone else can shed some more light on it.

      • Anon Male Says:

        All those articles are the opposite of intersectional though. The HIV rate for gay minorities has shit all to with straight white dudes stalking lesbians. And since you can’t get an accurate population count for a group that is based on “feels” any percentage is absolute bullshit created by a soft in the head soft-science peddler. I mean, these are the people who conduct surveys among men about how big their dicks are and bother writing down the answers. SCIENCE!

        Furthermore, given the new Queer mantra of sero-positioning, meaning that HIV positive people should be the ones having the dicks stuck in them for the benefit of mankind, the idea presented in that first article that transwomen naturally want to be penetrated as a result of psychic womanhood (female = bottom) is not only pure misogyny, but writing HIV into that population’s narrative from the top down as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

        And who the fuck has time to deal with other people’s self-fulfilling prophecies?


  16. That Facebook…wow.

    Just reading all the comments made me want to vomit.

    This is some corrective rape shit right here.
    It is actually terrifying, these men are SO angry about being told no.
    The concept that someone (especially a female) DOESN’T want to fuck them is a hate crime. What?

    People are allowed to have preferences you sick fucks and you are not entitled to sex. Sex is not an entitlement!

    ———————

    Dildo=penis? Nope nope nope.

    Is a Baby Born an actual baby since a plastic model now equals REALZ?

    Someone call Child Services, that little girl is neglecting her dolls!!

    Furthermore, I have never had sex with another woman using a dildo. I don’t know of any lesbians that have.

    Any one here ever heard of it?

    An ex of mine would masturbate with a dildo. But it was one of the ones that is shaped kinda like a spoon, not a penis.

    Also, as others have mentioned, dildos can’t transmit disease and get you pregnant. Piss poor comparison for the trans brigade.

    These blokes are further proof that they don’t know fucking anything about lesbians and women.

    Lesbians use their hands and mouth. Wanting to use your “elongated clit” is not how lesbians have sex. MOST women (hetero/homo) get NOTHING out of PIV.

    Our primary erogenous zone is in the clitoris, the vulva and the breasts.

    Having sex that way (PIV) is for YOUR benefit, not the females.

    And dildo’s can be manoeuvred and manipulated, your dicks can’t.

    Their entire worldview is based on the porn they’ve seen, it’s frightening.

    I looked at the profiles of the lovely members of the LezTGirls. I think I saw one actual female (Jules) , the rest were all males and noticeably so. Bunch of dudes telling women who to fuck and telling lesbians to sleep with men. SAME OLD FUCKING BULLSHIT.

    Why co-opt lesbian? Lesbian is a FEMALE HOMOSEXUAL.

    It has nothing to do with gender, it’s about SEX. Read a fucking dictionary already.

    Can’t they call themselves something else? How about Tiresiasians?

    After Tiresias who was turned into a female after killing a snake. It’s got mythology and shit which they’d love because it’s more history for them to appropriate.

    • jo Says:

      Not understanding female/lesbian sexuality while pretending to be lesbian = fail
      By the way they have picture of a trans My little pony, wtf?

  17. Bev Jo Says:

    The same old shit of men wanting access to Lesbians. Entitled men thinking it’s their right. The only Lesbians I’ve known (and they are very few) who used dildos on women were those trained by bisexual women that that’s what “real” women want. I’ve never seen one in 46 years of making love with other women.

    It’s all so simple. There are no “transwomen.” There are disgusting het men who want access to Lesbians or self-hating gay men who want to be with men.

    If only real women did not support these men against the rest of us. One of these men just tried to get into one of our Radical Feminist group and it turns out six “Radical Feminists” in our groups are friends with him, and one thinks he’s all right because he agrees with “The Transsexual Empire.” WTF??? If that were true, he would stop pretending, stop lying on facebook, and just admit he’s a man who is perving on Lesbians.

    Women, PLEASE stop supporting these pricks.

    • Rhonda Says:

      Seems so odd to me. I’m bi, and the first time I slept with a woman my thought was no dick=awesome. I wasn’t thinking “wish I had a dildo” I know some people like them, but even as a bi I have no need. I was looking for a vibrator once, and was shocked at all of the dildos for sale online. lol I remember saying who the hell is buying all these dildos? It was way harder to find the kind of hand held plug in type massage device I was looking for, than penis shaped crap. I ended up finding one made by wahl on amazon. I couldn’t find a decent one from a sex toy website. If I wanted a dildo though, they got millions.:-/ crazy.

  18. kitkat Says:

    I had trouble spending more than 30 seconds on that page seeing as I have eaten recently, but I was pretty amused to notice a graphic of James Franco in drag with lyrics from Madonna’s “What It Feels Like For A Girl” on it posted. A famous straight dude (well, considering Franco’s love of queer theory and desperate aping of James Dean I’m sure he’s at least flexible — but publicly straight) does some lazy drag for a magazine, passing about as spectacularly as many trans women who have been working at it for years I might add, and they slap on some (woman’s) words about it being widely considered degrading to dress as a woman with the implication being that it is in fact empowering (for men)…translesbianism, everybody! I don’t think I could have done a better parody if I tried.

    As an actual lesbian (so, I assume a “fake” lesbian since I’m not interested in their ultra-realistic strap-on — and by the way dudes, lesbians don’t actually care about strap-ons nearly as much as you straight people seem to think) it is just offensive and disgusting and I don’t want these creepy fetishists in lesbian spaces. I can laugh at this online but in real life, it’s hard enough for me to get away from predatory men and meet other women like me to socialize with. And now I’m supposed to not just let these creeps into my space but also (at least pretend to) be open to fucking them. All this supported by the ‘queer’ community that’s supposed to have my back.
    Wow, I don’t get that from straight society all the damn time…

  19. Donkey Skin Says:

    Not sure if this has been discussed here, but the Daily Beast published this latest assault on lesbian sexuality and lesbians in general by Julia Serano last month:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/14/the-struggle-to-find-trans-love-in-san-francisco.html

    It’s a blatantly hateful anti-lesbian screed – he sneeringly refers to ‘dykes’ and ‘cis dykes’ throughout, is eager to reveal that he has discovered lesbians are ‘the real bigots’ against trans males, rather than the caring and open-minded ‘cis men’ (i.e., tranny chasers) who fall over themselves to sleep with him, manages OF COURSE to get in a whine about how trans females are still finding partners in the lesbian community, and finishes with the autogynophile’s cri de coeur, ‘Why do lesbians even exist if not to validate me as the sexy lady that I am?’

    Not once does he acknowledge that lesbians have the right to choose their partners or to define their sexuality themselves. This appears to be due to both his massive sexism and his overwhelming narcissism. You really get the feeling from this piece that he genuinely doesn’t grasp that women have a reality separate from his desires, and he is just barely suppressing his rage at the fact that they won’t bend to his will. It’s like bethanyalexander said upthread – it’s actually terrifying.

    It’s shocking (and yet horridly familiar) that a liberal organ would publish such a breathtakingly homophobic piece. Except in this case, the homosexuals are female. No way would they run a piece that attacked gay male sexuality in terms even one tenth as poisonous.

    On the bright side, it’s grimly heartening (and I have to say amusing) to learn that even in ultra-liberal San Francisco, where I’m assuming trans politics must hold tremendous sway, Serano can’t find a single lesbian willing to sleep with him. The Cotton Ceiling has FAILED, creeps.

    • Choco Says:

      That article you linked to is so vomit inducing. If a woman ever tried to publish anything remotely like that, she would be told that she doesn’t “deserve” sex until she dyes her hair, loses weight, learns her place, etc. Of course the unspoken assumption is that men deserve sex no matter what, something that transwomen conveniently hold onto when they transition and “give up” all their male privilege.

      The comments from the lesbians on that thread gave me hope though. How surprising that the women on that thread are able to express themselves succinctly and respectfully, while one of the transwomen calls his dating experience being relegated “to the back of the bus.” Apparently the trans co-option of the black civil rights movement is not too “problematic” for white libfems (they piss themselves whenever black lesbians get too loud though).

    • Lint Says:

      Thank you sharing this, Donkey Skin. I think one of my favorite bits was when a clearly put out Julia relates that while trawling OK Cupid, he got

      “Over a four-month period, I received only five responses: one from a cis bisexual woman, three from trans women, and one from a trans man. ”

      LOL! I love the way he’s seething over this, barely trying to hide the fact that he sees the bisexual woman, 3 MtTs, and a FtT as sub standard and unworthy.

      But the best part is this declaration:

      “And when the overwhelming majority of cis dykes date and fuck cis women, but are not open to, or are even turned off by, the idea of dating or fucking trans women, how is that not transphobic?”

      And there you have it. Any “cis dyke” who’s audacious enough to desire women and not MtTs with penises is transphobic. Truly we have gone thru the looking glass when a lesbian can be criticized for not wanting to fuck someone with a penis.

      But as you said, it’s wonderful to hear that Julia is NOT having success in bullying his way into the hearts and underwear of lesbians in San Fran. Makes me hope for the future.

      • Donkey Skin Says:

        I especially liked this desperate piece of sour grapes:

        ‘I go out on plenty of dates, and I’m having lots of super-fucking-awesome sex, just not with cis women at the moment.’

        Ha ha ha ha ha! He might be lauded as a ‘feminist’ icon on pomo libfem websites, but in real life women won’t have a bar of him! Not even straight and bi women, apparently. I wonder if his all-consuming narcissism, which surely registers on some satellite systems, just gives them an instant creepy vibe.

        Also lol-ing at his claim that he is ‘usually read as cis’.

        This piece and the ‘translesbians’ site could not be plainer about the fact that this is all about fulfilling a sexual urge for these guys. I mean, they are not making even a token effort to hide it. Serano even ends with a ‘threat’ (LOL!) to absent himself from lesbian spaces if lesbians won’t recognise him as an ‘object of desire’. And at the same time the trans community will turn around and say autogynophilia isn’t real.

        It makes me wonder why more women can’t see it. I think we are just brought up to pander to men’s delusions – they are the ones who get to define reality, including our own, so if they say something doesn’t exist, while at the same time rubbing our noses in the very thing they are denying the existence of, we tend to believe them.

      • Teal Deer Says:

        Ha! “Usually read as cis” + Google image search = no way, Jose!

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Like you all, I was amused to see Serano’s angst over the fact that lesbians are uninterested in him. Of course, he’s quick to remind his audience that “I go out on plenty of dates, and I’m having lots of super-fucking-awesome sex, just not with cis women at the moment” – just so we know that he’s just so hawt that folks (men) can’t keep their hands off of him. Yeah, Serano, that didn’t sound desperate at all. {{eyeroll}}

      My favorite part was this: “And personally, with each passing year, it becomes harder and harder for me to continue to take part in a community in which I am not seen as a legitimate object of desire.” Hey, Serano, don’t get our hopes up like that unless you plan to follow through!

      Recently, a commenter here – I’m pretty sure it was Kitty Barber, to give credit, but someone please correct me if I’m wrong – stated that so many MtT think that lesbians’ feelings of revulsion towards them have to do simply with the dick, whether present or inverted. But it’s not just that – it’s the sense of entitlement, the appropriation, the lack of having grown up and experienced the world as a woman, and all the rest. (Apologies if I’ve got that wrong, Kitty Barber.) Serano….he just doesn’t get that. Never has, never will.

      • Teal Deer Says:

        It’s the dick in his brain that’s unappealing, not just the dick in his pants.


      • Well and most of the time they just look like what they always were – male. The only difference now is that they wear makeup, wigs and dresses.

        Nothing can hide their massive bodies.

  20. sharonredwood Says:

    Many transwomen still are fully intact biological males. Technically, any female who has sex with a post-op transwoman (a biological male who identifies as a woman) is still having sex with male. I’m not talking about genetics. Rather, I’m talking about what is used to create a “neovagina”. It’s inverted skin from the penis and scrotal skin, but it’s surgically rearranged in a different way. The inner lining of the “neovagina” is surgically created from the skin of the penis, or occasionally, from part of the colon. Scrotal skin is used to create the opening of the neovagina, and what is supposed to pass as “labia”. Indeed, many surgeons recommend electrolysis prior to sex reassignment surgery so that the opening to the “neovagina” isn’t hairy. No, you can’t make this up. If he had a hairy scrotum, he could have a hairy opening to his “neovagina”. Part of the glans of the penis is retained to resemble a “clitoris”. Part of the glans of the penis is NOT the same thing as a clitoris, but it’s all about surgically creating something that is supposed to resemble natural female anatomy. It’s basically extensive plastic surgery on healthy male anatomy. If it kind of looks like the real thing, that is all that matters. It doesn’t work, smell, or taste like female anatomy, but they pay good money for the mutilation of their genitals. So, it’s all about appearance.

    An actual vagina is an organ that is part of the female reproductive system, and it lubricates naturally. A “neovagina” will never lubricate naturally. That is, unless part of the colon is used. In this case, it can lubricate too much, and there can be an offensive odor. A vagina is connected to the rest of the female reproductive system, and it’s the birth canal in which babies pass through. What does a “neovagina” do? It basically sits there waiting to be poked. It’s sole purpose is to act as a receptacle. A “neovagina” is an artificially created cavity in the human body that has to be dilated for the life of the patient because wounds tend to constrict and close. A vagina isn’t going to completely close up whether or not it’s ever used. This isn’t true with a “neovagina”. Any wound in the human body has a tendency to close and constrict. MTFs have to dilate (a special metal rod) essentially forever, or risk losing “depth” to their expensive surgically created “neovagina”. This must be uncomfortable. I’m so happy that females don’t have to stick metal rods into their vaginas.

    Because the biology and anatomy of females and males are so different, how can any male possibly say that he knows how females feel when they are sexually aroused? I would not insult the male sex by saying that I know how men feel when they ejaculate. Males, and this includes males who have had their testicles cut off, CAN NEVER TRULY KNOW HOW WOMEN FEEL WHEN THEY ARE SEXUALLY AROUSED.

    Some researchers even did a study to see whether or not males post SRS responded similarly to females. This study just tells us what most people instinctively know already. That is, even after sex reassignment surgery, male sexual response is different than how females respond.

    “Men’s sexual arousal patterns are category-specific: Men typically display significantly greater physiological responses to sexual stimuli depicting members of their preferred gender category. Category-specific patterns of sexual arousal have not been consistently reported in natal women. We used vaginal photoplethysmography to examine patterns of sexual arousal in 11 male-to-female (MtF) transsexuals following sex reassignment surgery (SRS) and in 72 natal women. Subjective arousal was measured with a continuous response lever. Video clips depicting sexual activity between two males, two females, or one male and one female were used as erotic stimuli. All transsexual participants displayed category-specific sexual arousal. Five homosexual transsexual participants (attracted exclusively to males before sex reassignment) showed greater genital and subjective responses to male than to female stimuli, while six nonhomosexual transsexual participants showed the opposite pattern. Vaginal pulse amplitude (VPA) was lower in transsexual participants than in natal women. The mean correlation between VPA and subjective responses was high in nonhomosexual transsexuals, but was significantly lower in homosexual transsexuals and in natal women. One transsexual participant who reported a change in sexual orientation following sex reassignment displayed VPA and subjective responses consistent with her pre-reassignment sexual orientation.

    We conclude that male-to-female transsexuals display male-typical category-specific sexual arousal following SRS, and that vaginal photoplethysmography is a promising methodology for studying patterns of sexual arousal in postoperative transsexuals.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15803248

  21. morag99 Says:

    Ugh. This FB page is Avery Edison all over again (minus Edison’s writing skills). It’s a bunch of through-and-through men explaining to women how to conduct their sex lives. And how women should conduct their sex lives always, inevitably, includes this: giving men access to their bodies.

    Avery argued that once a woman voluntarily engages with one penis, why–why, for the love of god!–not his penis, too? These fake lesbian guys are exactly the same. Once a woman has (they imagine) used anything vaguely phallic-like in her sex life, after that, what’s the diff? Why not their penises, too–especially since these men simply rename their genitals? They speak of women as if they were mindless empty vessels to be filled up, and are they are too stupid, narcissistic and manly to have the faintest clue about how deeply offensive this is.

    For crying out loud, they are mansplaining to women/lesbians the very meaning of their desires, bodies, intimate partners, consent, and sexual activity. It’s pure objectification and contempt for females. And from contemptible idiots, on top of it all!


  22. JennaFoot is NOT a lesbian. He is just a creepy dude who has a foot fetish. Apparently, he is rather proud of his foot fetish. I’ve known a lot of lesbians and bisexual women, but none of these women have a kinky foot fetish. This guy is scary looking. Look at this dude with the goth looking dark eyeliner. What does “your admin” mean?

    “SINGLES HOUR :This is. Me your admin JennaFoot girl I’m 21 and I’m a male to female trans women pre op I’m also lesbian I’m a fem about me i like. Electronic music and some alt rock and I have a foot fetish and I love infitec 3d and I like going to hot topic and forever 21 I do like adventure time and monster high but hello kitty is where it’s at lol and I’m a lolita type of girl or scene Inbetween here’s my link if any girl is willing to know me and maybe more but has to support my foot fetish is have one for compatibility”

    This is a rather bazaar Facebook page. If we can actually look through this Facebook page without getting sick to our stomachs, it’s a crazy mix of fetish like porn mixed in with pretty pictures of women kissing. These are men who have a sexual fetish who are hoping to get lucky with lesbians. They have also created some cheesy looking Photoshopped graphics to supposedly prove that they are down with gender queer folks. This is not an indictment on queer folk. It’s the way these men use it to try and convince lesbians that it’s cool to sleep with dudes with a foot fetish.

    Warning: This might make some women sick, but we really need to understand what is going on in the minds of these men.

    https://www.facebook.com/Lezlovetgirls

    On one tacky photoshopped graphic, there is a photograph of two women kissing. The words say,

    “New Policy:

    Any dude who masturbates to lesbian porn more than twice can not legally oppose gay marriage. You don’t get to jack off to someone and then deny them equal rights assholes. It doesn’t work that way.”

    Lexi,

    These are just porn sick dudes who no doubt masturbate to a lot of pornography. It’s all about him, his penis, and his sexual fetish (foot fetish, or whatever). This whole Facebook page reeks of misogyny and a deep seated hatred of lesbians.

    I lost my appetite. I thought the Cotton Ceiling workshop was offensive.

  23. SheilaG Says:

    No lesbian I ever know used a dildo, we just don’t talk about this stuff. Really, STD pregnancy and men obsessed with sex with lesbians… what a mess they are. Why don’t they just date each other and leave the lesbian community alone? But they can’t because they are men. same old same old same


  24. OH MY GOD!

    From their Facebook page, NSFW (porn):

    *Rape Warning*

    *vomits*

    That is fucking sick.

    They reference this as how it should go down between them and lesbians.


    • ugh sick assholes. Of course the woman is the one who is under their control.

      Trans “lesbian” is nothing but a male power fantasy.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Holy. Shit.

      Gosh, and Mr. Serano wonders why lesbians don’t want to have anything to do with him or his buddies.

    • Teal Deer Says:

      *vomits*

      On a positive note, Facebook’s “report” button works. I’m sure they’ll just repost it or something else, though, just as bad or worse.

  25. FeistyAmazon Says:

    I’ve known plenty of Lesbians who have used dildoes and many years ago I did too…but then I went back to what I can offer just with my body and same with her….nonetheless whether Lesbians use dildoes or not, enjoy penetration or not or both clitoral and vaginal stimulus, NONE OF THAT IS A PENIS! How they get from here to there is more mtf trans lies. There was a conference that had a policy that if you could put it in a drawer slam it shut and walk away from it you could come to this female only conference. That would eliminate FTMS who had bottom surgery and MTFs who did not. What an uproar THAT caused.

    Dildos (and by no means I arguing for their use) are made of silicone generally; cannot get you pregnant…can be put in a drawer and never again used without crying and complaining and have no minds of their own. With a rubber on them or washed bet ween uses won’t give studs and they won’t complain on lack of sensitivity from wearing a rubber.

    How mtfs can possibly COMPARE Dildos to their penis weapon I’ll never understand except this: when I engaged with them in mixed groups in the past they’d compare themselves to us lowly “genetic femakes” using that term before “cis” was invented..and tell me how they were just as much women or Lesbians as us but like a woman with a hysterectomy. …i told them in no uncertain terms: “no you are not. You don’t know how tragic it is for women to go through a hysterectomy because of disease. You are NOTHING LIKE a woman with a hysterectomy! !!”

    It highly offended me and as “Lesbian” as so many of them claim to be..in a hot minute they’d go with a dude who gave them a scrap of attention and so many of them had been or continued to be involved in prostitution to get a buck. No wonder their AIDS rate is 49 times higher than the average female. Not only that it scares me just as much that FTMS are fucking “gay” and bi dudes and also Butch Lesbians.

    EVERY Butch on Butch group I’ve been involved in allows FTMS and this is one easy way to bring AIDS and Hep C further into the lesbian population if they are also fucking Gay men or MTFs….

    I’m glad I have a partner because there no way I’d want to be on the Lesbian meat market these days…Cuz so many of these folks ARE NOT Lesbians. ..Nor Female proud or bio male. And we are not allowed to bitch about it otherwise were called bi and transphobic like I give a damn anymore…basically in my mind NONE of them are Dykes..they are all practicing bisexual behaviors under the term queer which is why I will have NOTHING to do with that or the Cis term.

    • born free & female Says:

      OH GOD that “I’m like a woman with a hysterectomy” pisses me off so much. You can’t have a hysterectomy unless you had a uterus! Any woman who’s had a hysterectomy was born female, was treated like a second-class citizen all her life because of her biological sex, very likely had kids. NOTHING, NOTHING like the life of some fifty-year-old father of two who’s retired now and has decided to take his erotic crossdressing to the next level by announcing he’s a lesbian inside.


      • The “I’m just like a woman with a hysterectomy” infuriates me too.

        You did not get sick with a potentially terminal illness (cancer)
        You didn’t have major organs removed.
        You didn’t lose hormones.
        You didn’t experience ANY of these things listened here:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterectomy#Adverse_effects

        It can be devastating to your physical and mental health.

        Co-opting women’s illness for their own narrative to gain access to safe spaces. It makes me fucking sick.

      • Choco Says:

        It’s revolting that transwomen think that women who’ve had hysterectomies feel any kind of solidarity with them. Only a deluded narcissist would that think that as soon as a woman looses her ovaries or breasts she “feels like a man”. The only ones who make breast cancer survivors feel “less like a woman” are the men in their lives who only see them as a walking sex receptacle.

    • BadDyke Says:

      “nonetheless whether Lesbians use dildoes or not, enjoy penetration or not or both clitoral and vaginal stimulus, NONE OF THAT IS A PENIS!”

      You got it Feisty! And NONE of that is being done to a male or by a male. We shouldn’t have to scrutinize our sex lives in order to justify to males why we don’t want to have sex with them. Except we do, because yet again a simple ‘No’ is just ignored. No, we don’t want to. No, I only sleep with lesbians. No, I only sleep with females. No, I only sleep with people without penises……..Over and over again, it is just ignoring women who say NO. Because as they all know, we’re not REALLY proper adult human beings, we’re just silly female pseudo-children, and once someone explains why we’re wrong, we’ll agree to whatever they want.

      The more we try to talk to them about it, the more it is giving them the supposed insight they so desire, getting into our heads if they can’t persuade us to let them into our beds.

      “…basically in my mind NONE of them are Dykes..” Too right! We have to keep saying it, because unlike some younger dykes, I’ve been through it all when I was younger, watching the M2Ts coming into lesbian-only spaces, watching the women who went with them, the dykes who stood firm and kept saying NO, you’re not a woman, and NO you’re not a dyke. Perhaps worse than the great invasion of the bi-curious, because at least that was women!


  26. They might have taken this Facebook page down because people are redirected to facebook.com.

    https://www.facebook.com/Lezlovetgirls

    Good to see it down. At least, for now.

    Way to go!


    • Yep, removed:

      “Ok apparently this page has been REPORTED!
      I’M NOT THE OWNER OF THIS JUST AN ADMIN FB STATING THAT MY SITES WILL BE SHUT DOWN!! I NEVER PUT THE PHOTOS UP THAT GOT REPORTED. PLEASE TAKE ME OFF ADMIN. HARDTOHANDLE”

      Someone’s upset! Haha!

      Oh, and look at the mansaplaining:

      “IM SORRY IF THIS IS A LITTLE EXPLICT .Most lesbians but not all are grossed out by male genitals ok I get it if it’s on a man but you should also be sick of a female to male trans mans pre op genitalia just because it’s a pussy dosnt mean your still lesbian if you love him sorry but true cuz it isn’t a female vagina . You should treat trans women like any other women fall in love with them too not just biological born women geez I’m actually starting to believe my lesbian and gay community is unfair and contractionary toward trans women who are lesbian and trans man who are gay cis people need to open up more I mean get past the genitalia part and grow up and be a real family fall in love with a trans women pre op or post op and stop being a hypocrite contradictionary asshole and staying in the friendzone with your trans mtf friend who has a crush on you. And wants to fall in love with you . YES IM A LESBEHONEST GROUP ADVOCATE”

      LESBIANS ARE UNFAIR! WAAAAAAHHHHH! GAY MEN NEED TO GROW UP!

      I lol’d so hard at this.

      Seriously, why do they all write like 13 year olds? I’m not a great writer but they can’t use punctuation at all.

      Are they really that dense or is it an attempt to seem juvenile and cutesy?

      • Rhonda Says:

        Lesbehonest? I was a member of that group page, before I deleted facebook. There was a m2t that was always bitching about his feelings. (wonder if it’s the same one) I was talking to a girl on there that was in an abusive relationship, and she was saying she didn’t feel male or female. People were telling her to transition, and I was like hold up, I feel the same way, you are normal. It just amazed me that people would tell someone “oh get top surgery” without knowing that she was stuck with an abusive guy, and not in a good place to make a decision like that. (She got away from him eventually) I liked the woman that ran the page, but some of the members were awful. It sounds really familiar to the *cry cry lesbians don’t like my penis* that was going on before I left facebook.

  27. Mormo Says:

    ugh Shit like this makes me hate being a lesbian. it’s a big fucking joke to everyone.

  28. gtfan Says:

    Notice the one on the right looking directly at the camera. Doing the weird tongue-licking thing that (lol) nobody actually does irl. It’s all a performance. “Look at us, viewer! Look at us two hot girls getting it on! Aren’t ‘lesbians’ sexy??” Now, where do you think he’s seen that kind of *performance* before……

    • jo Says:

      Yes, it’s an imitation of porn. Porn is all about finding the right titillating omg shocking angles for the blasé male viewer, it has nothing to do with real eroticism. It so obvious when people imitate this fakeness – and when it comes to these guys it must be their only source of knowledge when it comes to sex, lesbians and women in general.

    • morag99 Says:

      Yes, gtfan! That’s the first thing I noticed: the woman looking directly at the camera while engaged in a sexual act. It’s a perfect example of the second wave feminist concept of the “male gaze.” The picture is made for men to look at. And the woman looking back at the man is his invitation to look.

      Trans guys want to do the looking as men and also be looked at (objectified) as women and as lesbian. Double thrills, triple thrills! God, they are so transparently and aggressively MEN.


  29. Apparently, this Facebook page is back up. They still have the extremely offensive and tacky graphic with the words,

    “New Policy:

    Any dude who masturbates to lesbian porn more than twice can not legally oppose gay marriage. You don’t get to jack off to someone and then deny them equal rights assholes. It doesn’t work that way.”

    Lexi,

    https://www.facebook.com/Lezlovetgirls

    I did a screen capture of it and saved it as a .jpeg. I plan on printing it out and leaving copies at the LGBTQ center close to where I live. I strongly suggest that everyone do the same. Since GLAAD bends over backwards not to offend transgender persons. I wonder what they will think of this utterly offensive and in your face lesbian hatred.

    By the way, the women in so-called “lesbian porn” are usually straight or bisexual women. The pornography business knows that males like to masturbate to girl on girl action.

    Please screen capture this, print it out, and take it to the nearest LGBTQ center. Also, send copies to GLAAD and the NCLR.


  30. Looks like someone had a breakdown:

    “Most lesbians but not all are grossed out by male genitals ok I get it if it’s on a man but you should also be sick of a female to male trans mans pre op genitalia just because it’s a pussy dosnt mean your still lesbian if you love him sorry but true cuz it isn’t a female vagina . You should treat trans women like any other women fall in love with them too not just biological born women geez I’m actually starting to believe my lesbian and gay community is unfair and contractionary toward trans women who are lesbian and trans man who are gay cis people need to open up more I mean get past the genitalia part and grow up and be a real family fall in love with a trans women pre op or post op and stop being a hypocrite contradictionary asshole and staying in the friendzone with your trans mtf friend who has a crush on you. And wants to fall in love with you”

    The friendzone. I never seen an m2t using this term although they all whine about it. Some call it cotton ceiling, some don’t use a specific term – they just whine about da evil lesbians.

    The friendzone is a male phenomena – mostly used by angry sex starved men.


  31. […] Some women, usually those already invested in males, are flattered that men say they want to be women. Some mistakenly believe that these men must love women more than most men to identify as us, and have not seen how these men talk about themselves, with their posing and videos and photos of looking like male porn fantasies. https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/translesbians-living-the-porn-life/ […]

  32. WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

    2 translesbians = 2 mutilated gay dudes.


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