“Don’t Worry About It, Women. Men know better than you.” *DIRECT ACTION at University of Bristol

January 19, 2015

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This past November, signs placed in restrooms at the University of Bristol by a group of Trans Activists “came under fire from the feminist community”.

You can read one response to the signs (pictured above) by Glosswitch HERE, where she says:

“Hey, check out this poster from #transawarebristol! Isn’t it inclusive? Isn’t it liberating? Doesn’t it say everything you’d want it to say? No more shall bigoted females take it upon themselves to have opinions about who should share enclosed spaces with them; after all, it’s not up to them! Fuck them and their irrational, hysterical little phobias! Only some people are allowed to feel threatened, or to have an idea about what womanhood means, and it sure as hell isn’t them. Other people know best.

I’ll be honest: I am struggling to see how this type of “don’t worry your pretty little head about this, proto-bigot” approach to gender liberation is of use to anyone. Women don’t worry about personal safety for the fun of it, nor do they seek to set their own boundaries just because they’re stupid and mean. They have fears relating to male bodies that are real and valid, and a sense of self that is as authentic as anyone else’s. Telling them “well, you shouldn’t – other people’s feelings come first” is just misogyny 101.”

 

University of Bristol women have since taken to replacing the signs with these, in protest:

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Men who fancy themselves “transwomen” claim to be mystified as to why females would be concerned about their personal safety sharing areas of public nudity with males.

“Why? I have no idea”, writes John “Jane Fae” Ozimek, a transgender bloke well over six foot two, in an Independent op-ed today.

John "became Jane" but still doesn't understand women.

John “became Jane” but still doesn’t understand women.

“I get that there are still debates to be had about gender and sex and biology and genes”, he says with a handwave. But the only answer he, as a male, can imagine is that women must be worried about his “farty sounds”. Whatever women’s concerns are for safety and comfort are of no concern to a male like him. He instructs real women to know their place: “..the user of a loo knows their own gender better than you, and it is not for you to challenge it.”

Women give menz sadz.

Women give menz sadz.

GenderTrender applauds and encourages this direct action and protest by the women of the University of Bristol against Female Erasing Trans Activism and sexist, patronizing anti-women “transwomen” like “Fae”.

EXCELLENT WORK, women!

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69 Responses to ““Don’t Worry About It, Women. Men know better than you.” *DIRECT ACTION at University of Bristol”


  1. Good on them! Hahaha, love that replacement sign!

  2. GallusMag Says:

    • morag99 Says:

      Martha Scott, who is wild about weddings, has promised to love, honour and obey her masters.

      Behind every successful man in the ladies’ room stands a faithful Martha.

  3. FeistyAmazon Says:

    Right on, Sisters, right on!!!!

  4. Claire Says:

    Good. Why shouldn’t women be able to challenge who enters their space. Would it be ok for someone dressed as a man, acting like a man, who has no intention or desire to be a woman, to enter toilets designated for women, and then just claim “I’m a Transwoman?”

    It’s a predators playground. Cis male rapist, want to gain entry to a woman’s space, just walk into Bristol University’s toilets, women are expected not to challenge you! Fuck that!

    • kesher Says:

      That was the thing that was the most revolting to me about the original: We’re not even “allowed” to worry about it regardless if we say anything. Sure smells like sex predator grooming to me, that and the creepy insistence on teaching children that penis is female.

  5. RadicalKlingon Says:

    I love it. I would have been way too scared to have done this!

  6. WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

    I hear stuff like “I’m gender-fluid/agender/extra special snowflake/otherkrap. I don’t know which restroom to use”. Take your cock n’ balls to the urinal in the men’s room. That shit between your ears doesn’t count.

    • Akira Says:

      Yes to that. Bathrooms are segregated by sex, not by your definition of gender.


      • Totally agree. At the most basic level, bathrooms are designed to accommodate the physical characteristics of their users. Regardless of what one “feels” like on any certain day, if they have the physically male, they should ONLY be using the bathroom designed for their sex. Same with women (but that doesn’t seem to be much of a problem.) While transgenders have the right to feel any way they want to feel, they don’t have the right to invade other people’s rights, and women (and men) have a right to privacy.


      • LOL, rights of privacy for ladies! Silly girl, dontcha know human rights are only for men?
        Signed,
        A Superior Laydee (but I enjoy my privilege when it suits me.)

      • Adrian Says:

        Some bathrooms aren’t segregated though, they’re single-room, labelled usually with a split “man/woman” sign or some form of “family bathroom” designation.

        In the US, these are becoming pretty standard in new construction, which is a good thing – single room to yourself, lots of room to change or have your kids with you or help a companion or just put your luggage behind a lock while you pee without worries of theft.

        So there will be the usual women’s room, the usual men’s room, and the one of these “single room” family bathrooms that’s just plain first come first serve, since it’s a single room.

        Guest what the latest “oh no, discrimination!!1!!!” wailing is?

        Yep. These family bathrooms are “discriminatory,” because the provide an easy answer to “b…b…but I’ll be beat up in the men’s!!!” that doesn’t involve the M2T using the women’s.

        Businesses are realizing that the family bathroom is an easy solution to the problem. They don’t need to take any stance, they just say, if you’re uncomfortable using the bathroom with others, go here.

        The fact that people are screaming about it just shows that the issue isn’t, and hasn’t really been, M2T getting beat up in the men’s bathroom. It’s about getting those sweet validation feels of being allowed to use the women’s room.

        …and of course, remember that any M2T who truly “passed” (with clothes on, even) wouldn’t be given any shit going into the women’s to start with. It’s always about the people who aren’t “passing” in a million years, often by behavior.

        Some time ago there was a tumblr post linked here on this blog about an M2T in a bar who did a “sit down strike” refusing to leave the women’s room in a bar when confronted by women (and the bouncer!!) who asked him to leave. The bar pointed out that they had a family bathroom right next to the women’s, but that wasn’t acceptable, and police had to be called on the M2T who wouldn’t leave. The individual in question didn’t have the coveted legal “F” on ID either, so of course being asked to prove the “But I’m a woman!1!!” with ID was just beyond the pale, oh woe is me.

        Yeah. Those goalposts just keep on moving.

      • Bea Says:

        I saw a tranny once say he didn’t want to use the unisex bathroom because “I’m hard femme and that’s basic as fuck.” So essentially the bathroom is their little aesthetic playground where they get to validate their princess fantasies, instead of a place to, y’know, void.

    • WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

      From what I’ve read, even countries with third-gender, etc. do not completely ignore biology. They don’t say “a woman just like any other woman”. Usually closer to “a man acting as a woman”.
      Some places even have the third restroom option for the third gender. Even though it’s accepted in their culture, they don’t pretend it’s all the same.

      • kesher Says:

        That’s what I find funny whenever I see trans activists talking up the hijra in India or whatever. Hijra aren’t considered women.

        I also find it creepy in a larger sense since there is a long tradition of keeping often literally neutered men around as servants and sex slaves, something imposed on them as children by their owners or even their own parents. According to current trans theory, are we to conclude that those men were actually women? Because, to me, it looks like an age-old violation of their basic human rights, not acknowledgement of their speshul gender identity.

        I would have considerably less of a problem with trans “women” if they would just mind their own business and advocate for their own accommodations, not impose themselves on ours. But that and their creepy/disgusting/insulting insistence of being considered “real women” are why I have no patience with the mainstream trans movement.

        I’ll occasionally see questions on Tumblr along the lines of “don’t you see trans women as real women”? No, and why should we? And why does it matter what we think?

      • Adrian Says:

        @kesher @WTF Is This Nonsense? – EXACTLY. Most of the third-gender people are happy to claim third-gender (whichever specific word is applicable to their situation). Even if they use “she” pronouns, they are not claiming to be women, they are not claiming to be “just like you and how dare you point out differently” or pretending to understand what the experience of being a woman is.

        I’m with @kesher – the biggest problem is the current “origin story,” so to speak, this idea of “brain intersex” and “we’re exactly like you” and “we know you better than you know yourself” and “we make better women than you.”

        Why does it matter what we think, indeed? Because that’s where it all starts with the “transwomen are women” M2T crowd. They are obsessed with being seen as “women” (quotes are important) for whatever reason. It’s all about the interplay of the observer, being seen as/treated as/interacted with as “women.”

        They then cling to and reify all the gender stereotypes in order to have a way to “show the world” that they’re “women” so that people will use the “correct” language with them and give them that sweet, sweet validation that they seek.

        Hanging out at the bathroom mirror doing their lipstick and engaging in “girl talk” is the whole game for a sizable part of the crowd, and yeah that’s creepy.


    • @A Superior Laydee hahahahahaha, funny, how truth is always funny.
      @Adrian yes, family bathrooms are great, and *should* make everyone happy (at least people who are only concerned about their own rights/safety/their children’s safety, and not concerned with *taking* the rights of other people by forcing themselves on them)
      and a good point about M2T…*if* they quietly and quickly go in the bathroom and do their business (they way normal women do), nobody would probably even notice them or care, they problem is, that isn’t what they do, they go in and make a big production and/or loiter for hours…..THAT is the problem.

  7. K Says:

    At least these signs might help women and girls be more alert. I just hope it doesn’t come back to hurt the posters…. :c

  8. alex Says:

    Oh well done, courageous women! Bravo!

  9. Biscuit Says:

    Great. So if there’s a dude masturbating in one of the stalls in the woman’s bathroom, women are just supposed to ignore it?

    For fuck’s sake.

  10. sheela Says:

    Hmm. I identify as a MAN, but bigots frequently misgender me on account of my long hair, breasts and, uh, being female? But only a ‘phobe would say I didn’t piss standing as well as the next guy. Wonder if the good folks of transaware would help out if I was challenged in the men’s loo? By men who didn’t feel comfortable? Sure they would.

  11. AreUSayingWhatUThink Says:

    This is wonderful.

  12. australopithecene Says:

    Transactivists never engage with the argument. Every answer is “transphobe” and “TERF”. It’s almost like their point of view would crumble to dust under scrutiny.

  13. alex Says:

    australopithecine, you are not kidding! It’s like if they chant it enough times all dissent will disappear. That they don’t assign an argument to these words is a feature, not a bug. They can redefine and redefine depending on whether they’re getting the result they want from hurling it.

  14. BadDyke Says:

    Note also the LGBT+ — what’s the PLUS for? Anyone else who feels like joining. Nooooo boundaries!

    In the eighties, when I was in uni les&gay soc (yep, we DARED to say JUST lesbians and gays!), we had to worry about not letting the paedos in (the chaps got the point when we said ALL the lesbians would walk out if they dared to invite a speaker who could claim man/boy over 18 all he liked, but we weren’t that stupid!). Later on, we even had a lesbian ONLY group.

    And now, LGBT+ just about anyone who isn’t really boring and straight (or thinks they’re not).

    LGBT+ becomes MEANINGLESS when the plus means that almost anyone is allowed to join.

    Reclaim the Night + becomes MEANINGLESS when menz and anyone else who feels like a stroll can come too.

    Dyke Marches+ become meaningless when anyone who ‘identifies’ as a dyke can come too.

    Sounds all nice and INclusive, when actually it’s just invasive. From the acronyms, to the toilet stalls. Just very happy to see that some of the sisters at Bristol aren’t willing to give in!

  15. freowif Says:

    Just read the Jane Fae article, there’s steam coming out my ears and I think I’m going to rupture something. Why can’t more people see the bloody arrogance it must take to dismiss women’s very real safety concerns because one’s feelings are fragile? This patronising and pompous man cannot and will not see that we have more to worry about than his farty noises.
    On a lighter note, it did put me in mind of South Park when mr Garrison used the women’s bathroom for the first time after his srs.

  16. GallusMag Says:

    Transphobic poster tells women ‘surrender your boundaries’

    Published on January 19, 2015 by Matt Field
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    A controversial parody of Bristol LGBT+ Society’s Transgender Awareness Week poster has been posted near the Wills Memorial Building toilets.

    The poster has been condemned as transphobic and caused outrage among members of Bristol University Feminist Society and UBU LGBT+ Society.

    The offensive poster tells women to ‘ignore the fact that men including transgender males rape women every 9 minutes’.

    It also asks women to ‘kindly surrender your boundaries’, states ‘don’t worry about it, men know better than you’ and ends with a sarcastic hashtag ‘#whataboutthemenz’.

    The poster parodies the highly successful poster campaign by UBU LGBT+ Society, which aimed to increase understanding and remove stigma surrounding transgender people.

    Related article: Transgender bathroom sign at Bristol goes viral

    The original poster was picked up by Pink News, the Telegraph and the Huffington Post, which described the campaign as ‘brilliant’, and achieved more than 100,000 notes on the blogging site Tumblr.

    Speaking to Epigram UBU Equality, Liberation and Access Officer Alice Phillips stated: ‘I’m extremely disturbed by the appearance of this poster in the Wills Memorial building. There is absolutely no place for transphobia at the University of Bristol and as a Union we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from.

    ‘Security services are going to be extra vigilant on their patrols and are going to be taking down any posters they see.’

    The poster has been condemned by many as ‘sickening’ and ‘vile’ with Bristol University Feminist Society President Hattie Stamp stating: ‘I think it’s a really hateful thing to do, its intention is to make trans people feel unsafe at Uni by calling them transgender males (when they self-identify as a woman) and completely dismisses their experiences and incites discrimination.’

    UBU LGBT+ Society President Jamie Cross told Epigram: ‘I think that whoever has parodied the poster has, in every way, misinterpreted the campaign. In fact I think that anyone who believes that we have not considered the need for safety for all self-identifying women in public bathrooms has also misinterpreted what we were trying to achieve with the original poster.

    ‘I’m both angry and hurt that this may have been put up by a student at the university.’

    The poster is attributed to University of Bristol ‘MENZ+ Society’, which is not a real society at the University. Some members of Bristol University Feminist Society have speculated that ‘TERFs’, or ‘Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists’, may have created the poster, although no one has yet claimed responsibility.

    UBU provides a Just Ask Advice service for anyone who may feel affected.

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    says:
    January 20, 2015 at 9:53 am
    Personally I don’t find this all that offensive.. Surely it’s making a valid point, that the majority of the time it is completely appropriate to question why a guy is hanging out in female toilets. The recent arrest of a man found hanging out in the girls toilets on Woodland Rd being a prime example.. I don’t think I should jeopardize my safety for the sake of political correctness and the fact that I may *tiny possibility* offend a trans person (who I would obviously apologise to in the event that I did make that mistake).

    http://epigram.org.uk/news/2015/01/transphobic-poster-tells-women-surrender-your-boundaries

  17. GallusMag Says:

    University poster claims trans women “rape women every nine minutes”
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    A poster has been put up at University of Bristol misgendering trans women and claiming cis women need to “surrender their boundaries”.

    The poster appears to be a parody of one put up by Bristol’s LGBT society which went viral in November. The original poster read “If you’re out in public and you can’t figure out a stranger’s gender, follow these simple steps: 1. Don’t worry about it.” Bristol LGBT society widespread praise for its trans-positive campaign.

    The new posters claim to be giving advice for women if “a man tries to enter a women’s bathroom”. They refer to trans women as “transgender males” and claim they rape women “every nine minutes”. Its advice is “kindly surrender your boundaries” and “don’t worry about it, men know better than you.”

    It claims to be from the “MENZ+ Society” which does not exist, but appears to be mocking the trans-positive stance of Bristol’s LGBT+ Society. The style is similar to language used by anti-trans feminists, often referred to as TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminists).

    Bristol University Feminist Society condemned the posters. President Hattie Stamp told Epigram, Bristol’s student newspaper: “I think it’s a really hateful thing to do, its intention is to make trans people feel unsafe at Uni by calling them transgender males (when they self-identify as a woman) and completely dismisses their experiences and incites discrimination.”

    Equality, Liberation and Access Officer Alice Phillips said: “I’m extremely disturbed by the appearance of this poster in the Wills Memorial building.

    “There is absolutely no place for transphobia at the University of Bristol and as a Union we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from.

    “Security services are going to be extra vigilant on their patrols and are going to be taking down any posters they see.”
    No one has claimed responsibility for the poster.
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    Alexander Kelso Shiels • 16 minutes ago
    Some “Right Wing Religious Bigot” out to destroy sensible dialogue & undermine people’s thoughts!
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    FakePete Alexander Kelso Shiels • 9 minutes ago
    “trans exclusionary radical feminist” doesn’t sound very right wing or religious to me…
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    gutaitas • 6 minutes ago
    Isn’t the poster objectionable enough without Pink News distorting what it says on its headline to make it sound worse?
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    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/01/20/poster-claims-trans-women-rape-women-every-nine-minutes/

    • morag99 Says:

      Gah. “Sickening … hateful … vile … ” What a bunch of fakers. Manufacturing their indignation, offence and pain, so they can justify unleashing rage on women-who-speak.

      It’s all phoney. It’s exactly the same as what batterers do when their female punching bags object to being punched. They must pretend not to understand her objections — e.g., it only “appears” that the posters are satirical, but nobody’s really sure. Yeah, right. The good people just don’t understand why women would say such terrible things! Oh, why –why are the mean women gratuitously hurting the poor trans?

      They pretend so that they can feel like victims and fight their supposed oppressors from a manufactured defensive position. In reality, the trans and their media and their “feminist” allies are the offenders.

      Disingenuous, phoney, fake, manipulative, abusive liars.

    • morag99 Says:

      There is one commenter over there at Pink News who’s making sense, with calm, wit and persistence. A self-described “old queen” who has apparently had it with the narcissistic and intellectually dishonest gender brats.

      They’re jumping all over him, as expected, with their lies and propaganda. But it’s note-worthy that a gay man is at least permitted to speak against the trans. I didn’t hear a single lesbian/feminist voice over there defending the Bristol women.

  18. GallusMag Says:

    ‘Hateful’ poster suggesting transgender students are rapists appears on campus
    19th January 2015
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    Women, kindly surrender your boundaries

    A controversial parody poster has caused outrage on campus for suggesting transgender students are rapists and telling women that “men know better than them”.

    The sickening sign tells female students that they shouldn’t worry if they see a man in the women’s toilets and they should “kindly ignore the fact that men including transgender males rape women every nine minutes”.

    This has caused huge offense to many feminists and transgender people across the University.

    Members of Bristol’s FemSoc have criticised the poster for “essentially trying to link trans women to rapists”.

    The hateful parody imitates the design of a sign that was recently put up in every toilet on campus as part of Trans Awareness Week.

    The original told students: “If you’re in a public bathroom and you think a stranger’s gender does not match the sign on the door…don’t worry about it, they know better than you”.

    The original sign which was parodied by the “MENZ+” society

    The new notice was first spotted outside the toilets in the Wills Memorial Building and was quickly brought to the attention of several SU officers by hundreds of offended students.

    Alice Phillips, Equality, Liberation and Access Officer, said on Facebook: “I’m really disgusted by this poster and we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from.

    “Also I’ve had an email from security services and they are going to be extra vigilant on their patrols and are going to be taking down any posters that they see”.

    As yet, nobody has claimed responsibility for the poster.

    http://bristol.tab.co.uk/2015/01/19/hateful-poster-mocking-transgender-community-found-outside-wills-memorial-buildings-toilets/

    • morag99 Says:

      These reports claim that ‘Menz+ Society’ isn’t ‘real,’ that it doesn’t ‘exist,’ when any reader can read that it is real, that it does exist, and that, as a collective, it thinks, responds and communicates.

      What the reporters mean, of course, is that women are not legitimate beings. Women with something to say, women who talk back, are illegitimate. Non-people. That includes the ‘feminists’ who are apparently outraged by the brilliant, satirical, feminist work of Menz+ Society. Those obedient women are not people either, but they will not (yet) be targeted (hunted down by legitimate male security) as long as they are supporting men in every way possible.

      Such illusions of safety. As Greer wrote: ‘Women have very little idea of how much men hate them.’

  19. gunhild Says:

    I love the women’s poster! The first sign is damn offensive. “Ladies, others (men) know better than you, don’t protect your boundaries” – like we haven’t heard that before!

  20. GallusMag Says:

    UK university poster claims trans people ‘rape women every nine minutes’

    Parodied a LGBTI campaign by the University of Bristol
    20 JANUARY 2015 | BY JOE MORGAN

    UK university students are believed to have put up a poaster claiming that trans people rape women every nine minutes.

    Posted at the University of Bristol, the sexist and transphobic poster was put up near the Wills Memorial Building toilets.

    It is attributed to ‘MENZ+ Society’, a group that does not exist at the University of Bristol.

    ‘Women, if a man tries to enter a womens’ bathroom please take these simple steps:’ it reads.

    ‘1. Kindly ignore the fact that men including transgender males rape women every nine minutes.

    ‘2. Kindly surrender your boundaries.

    ‘3. Don’t worry about it, men know better than you.’

    It is then hashtagged with ‘#whataboutthemenz’.

    The poster is intended to satirize the highly successful campaign that went viral last year, which read: ‘If you’re in a public bathroom and you think a stranger’s gender does not match the sign on the door, follow these steps:

    ‘1. Don’t worry about it, they know better than you.’

    Speaking to the University of Bristol’s newspaper Epigram, the UBU Equality, Liberation and Access Officer Alice Phillips said: ‘I’m extremely disturbed by the appearance of this poster in the Wills Memorial building.

    ‘There is absolutely no place for transphobia at the University of Bristol and as a Union we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from.

    ‘Security services are going to be extra vigilant on their patrols and are going to be taking down any posters they see.’

    Jamie Cross, the UBU LGBT+ Society president, said the people who made the poster ‘misinterpreted’ the LGBTI society’s campaign.

    ‘In fact I think that anyone who believes that we have not considered the need for safety for all self-identifying women in public bathrooms has also misinterpreted what we were trying to achieve with the original poster,’ he said.

    ‘I’m both angry and hurt that this may have been put up by a student at the university.’
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    John Williams · Top Commenter · Eastern Kentucky University
    There is no misunderstanding here. There is nothing to support the trans link. And I rather doubt that there is any research into the subject, something which is at least implied

    – See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/uk-university-poster-claims-trans-people-rape-women-every-nine-minutes200115#sthash.mNNUjT5y.xw3aHEw7.dpuf

  21. GallusMag Says:

    ‘Imitation trans awareness poster reveals ignorance of creators’
    A poster advising students to be vigilant against trans students using female toilets has been condemned by students across the UK, and rightly so, argues Siobhan Fenton

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    By Siobhan Fenton5:00PM GMT 20 Jan 20152 Comments

    This weekend, as students around the country returned from their Christmas break, those returning to Bristol University were met with a nasty surprise. Pasted outside campus on toilets, they found a poster threatening students to be vigilant against trans students who might rape them.

    A poster warns students using female toilets of the apparent threat, “men including transgender men rape women every nine minutes”. It then advises female students, “don’t worry about it, men know better than you” before suggesting they “kindly surrender your boundaries”.

    The poster is a parody of a campaign pasted up around the university by LGBT students in Autumn. The campaign’s posters sought to increase inclusivity of trans students and read, “If you’re in a public bathroom and you think a stranger’s gender does not match the sign on the door, follow these steps: Don’t worry about it, they know better than you.”

    This weekend’s poster mocked the LGBT original, aping its font, tone and logo, but twisting the language into what stops little short of transphobic hate speech. To single out trans students using so called “women’s toilets” as dangerous rapists is vicious vilification of Bristol’s trans students.

    In response, the university assured students that security guards “would be extra vigilant on their patrols and are going to be taking down any posters that they see”.

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    No one has yet come forward to claim the hate posters as their handiwork. Some students at Bristol believe that they may have been created by hardline student feminists, called TERFs or Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists, although this hasn’t been confirmed.

    TERFs expound the belief that trans people should not be welcome in “women’s spaces” for women’s protection, and that inclusion of trans people poses a threat. They represent a particularly hardline and toxic branch of student feminism on many campuses.

    A similar debate was sparked at Oxford University in October, after radical feminists prompted outrage after they published an article in a college magazine saying that they refused “to accept transgenderism”.

    But whilst feminist theorists slug it out over whether they will include trans students in their movement, trans students continue to suffer on campus violence and abuse that is far from theoretical.

    And trans people are not only more likely to suffer from sexual violence, but a variety of different issues whilst at university which non trans students may never encounter. Indeed, here are some details about trans students in the UK, which the poster’s public service announcement omitted to include:

    – more than half of all trans students “seriously considered dropping out” of university due to not feeling like they fit in
    – just two in every ten students feel safe on campus
    – one in three trans students has experienced some form of bullying or harassment on campus

    Indeed, perhaps most poignantly, studies suggest that trans people are significantly more likely to be a victim of sexual violence. Research suggests that two thirds of trans people will be subjected to some kind of sexual assault over the course of their lifetime.

    So, whilst the posters profess to care about protecting students from trans attackers, they gloss over the fact that the inverse is very much true and, in so doing, deny the experience of many trans survivors of rape.

    For many trans students, an already vulnerable community, the vitriol of these posters preys on ignorance and transphobia and attempts to make trans’ students experiences even harder.

    It is bizarre to think of the sustained hatred and self righteousness whoever behind this felt as they took the trouble to craft a logo, recreating a font and committing to ink their loathing of and disrespect towards their fellow students.

    The posters are nothing more than an attempt to whip up a storm of hysteria and rape fear in order to make trans students feel unsafe and unwelcome on campus.

    They highlight how much ignorance and idiocy some trans students have to wade through on campus everyday just to make it to the lecture hall.

    Siobhan Fenton is an MA journalism student at City University London she tweets @SiobhanFenton
    Visit our Student Life section or our Facebook page for more features and advice

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/student-life/11357649/Imitation-trans-awareness-poster-reveals-ignorance-of-creators.html

    • Biscuit Says:

      That article talks about feminists and then discusses violence.

      Sneaky – makes it sound like feminists are behind the violence. But is it really feminists committing the acts of violence? Of course not. Almost all acts of sexual violence are committed by men.

      Women on university campuses are frequently assaulted by men. Very few women feel totally safe walking on a university campus alone late at night. That’s due to attacks by males.

      Male violence is a problem which is why women feel alarmed when there’s a man in the woman’s bathroom or change room. Men who aren’t assholes know this. It’s why male janitors will make sure there are no women in the bathroom before going in to clean it.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Keep sucking that cock, Siobhan! Suck it real good! Atta girl! You’re a good little social justice warrior, yes you are!

    • Bea Says:

      “Trans people” should not be welcome in women’s spaces? Bullshit. Nobody said that. Males should not be welcome…which is not the entirety of “trans people,” though if often seems like it based on how they silence trans men.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Thanx 4 being a fan boo. Try not to assault too many folks with scalding hot decaf.😉

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Go away, Buffalo Sandeen. Shoo! Shoo! Isn’t it time for you to figure out how to rip off the VA some more?

      • GallusMag Says:

        He is currently sending (unread) comments into the spam bin. What a deranged human being. “No means No” has no meaning for him.

      • michelle Says:

        of course ‘no mean no’ has no meaning for Sandeen and his ilk…they have NEVER been noted for paying any heed to the boundaries set by women.

        Even more ironic is that he wants to come piss all over your this board yet does his damnedest to prevent real women from ever posting comments to his blog entries for the San Diego online rag…

  22. GallusMag Says:

    lol

  23. Juliana D Says:

    Thanks for the information, GM. What bothers me the most is the reaction to these posters that you provided in the comments. You would think that someone put posters up advocating violence against gays, blacks or Jews or something. I mean, they need extra security patrols??? Security is going to tear down any poster they see? Women enforcing boundaries is now akin to racism, antisemitism, or gay bashing?

    Just mind-blowing. Women (once allowed the opportunity!) have had to work for basic human rights for 150 years (and more), but these guys’ rights to “feel like a woman” has been accomplished in a mere ten years or so? So so telling….

    I am so disturbed by this. I want women to wake up, but what the hell will it take?

  24. Jane Says:

    I bet a lot of these boundary-violating, censorship-happy assholes were Tweeting “I am Charlie” a few days ago. Oh, but the Charlie cartoonists were men, and that makes all the difference, sadly even to right-on lefties. The difference between this and Charlie Hebdo is that the Bristol gals’ satire was both witheringly accurate and fucking hilarious. Well done and rock on, ladies!


  25. […] is a great piece of direct action by actual feminists. A woman is raped by a man in the UK every ten minutes in the UK, according to some statistics. Of […]

  26. GallusMag Says:

  27. GallusMag Says:

    Hateful ‘Parody’ of Trans-Inclusive Bathroom Signs Pollute U.K. Campus
    The sign, which misgenders and leans on tired myths about trans women as inherently ‘threatening,’ has been swiftly denounced and removed as its creator remains anonymous.
    BY MITCH KELLAWAYJANUARY 21 2015 12:26 PM ET
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    The anonymous ‘parody’ ad which advances false, transphobic claims about transgender women
    Two months after the University of Bristol posted trans-inclusive bathroom signs around its campus, an anonymously created transphobic parody has appeared, particularly targeting transgender women, reports U.K. LGBT news site Pink News.

    In November, the university’s UBU LGBT+ Society honored Trans Awareness Week by posting signs outside of campus restrooms that read, “If you’re in a public bathroom and you think a stranger’s gender does not match the sign on the door, following these steps: 1. Don’t worry about it, they know better than you.”

    An image of the signs went viral after being picked up by several LGBT news sources in the U.K. and U.S., notes the university’s newspaper, the Epigram. The paper explained that the signs were meant to make trans people more comfortable and safe, and to debunk the myth that trans women pose a violent threat to cisgender (nontrans) women in public bathrooms.

    In case you hadn’t already heard, @LGBTplusBristol’s transgender toilet signs have gone viral http://t.co/353sz9pkGY pic.twitter.com/D7HpgaH32H

    — Epigram (@EpigramPaper) November 19, 2014

    The hateful parody signs appeared on campus Monday, and mimic the original signs’ purple background, white lettering, and butterfly graphic — demonstrating that at least one person didn’t receive the trans-affirming messages.

    Posted outside women’s restrooms in the Wills Memorial Building, the parody signs claim to be from the “MENZ+ Society,” a group that does not exist at Bristol, according to the Epigram. The sign misgenders trans women, stating, “Women, if a man tries to enter a women’s bathroom, please take these simple steps: 1. Kindly ignore the fact that men including transgender males rape women every 9 minutes 2. Kindly surrender your boundaries 3. Don’t worry about it, men know better than you.”

    LGBT and feminist student leaders immediately decried the posters as transphobic. The university’s security services have been instructed to remove any parody posters that they see, UBU Equality leader Alice Phillips told the Epigram. “There is absolutely no place for transphobia at the University of Bristol and as a Union we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from,” she stated.

    “I think that whoever has parodied the poster has, in every way, misinterpreted the campaign,” added UBU LGBT+ Society president Jamie Cross. “In fact I think that anyone who believes that we have not considered the need for safety for all self-identifying women in public bathrooms has also misinterpreted what we were trying to achieve with the original poster. I’m both angry and hurt that this may have been put up by a student at the university.”

    While the university’s Feminist Society has speculated that the parody originated from “trans exclusionary radical feminists,” a group known particularly for targeting and misgendering trans women, the Epigram reports that no one has yet claimed responsibility.

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2015/01/21/hateful-parody-trans-inclusive-bathroom-signs-pollute-uk-campus

    • morag99 Says:

      “The hateful parody signs appeared on campus Monday, and mimic the original signs’ purple background, white lettering, and butterfly graphic — demonstrating that at least one person didn’t receive the trans-affirming messages.”

      Hilarious! At least “one person.”

      That someone needs to be sent to Room 101 for some serious Re-Education.

  28. GallusMag Says:

    Transphobic poster at University of Bristol condemned by student groups as ‘hateful’

    The poster warned women of a supposed threat from transgender people
    KASHMIRA GANDER Wednesday 21 January 2015

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    As the new term commenced at The University of Bristol on Monday, students were confronted by a transphobic poster, slammed by student groups as “hateful” and “disturbing”.

    The poster is a parody of an awareness raising sign put up by the university’s LGBT+ society in November.

    The original poster read: “If you’re in a public bathroom and youth think a stranger’s gender does not match the sign on the door, follow these steps: 1. Don’t worry about it, they know better than you.”

    The poster, featuring the UBU LGBT Society’s butterfly logo, received mainstream press attention for its positive message.

    An awareness raising poster put up around the University of Bristol by its LGBT+ Society. (Image: UBU LGBT+)
    The alternative poster displayed in the Wills Memorial building instead warned women of a supposed threat from trans women, and was distributed by a group calling itself the “University of Bristol MENZ+ Society” – although no-one has yet claimed responsibility for it.

    Adopting the LGBT+ poster’s tone and design, it sarcastically told women to “ignore the fact men[…]rape women every 9 minutes”.

    Student groups have condemned the poster for misgendering trans women – as it refers to those who are, or have, transitioned from male to female as “trans men” – and inciting discrimination through scare tactics.

    Jamie Cross, the President of the LGBT+ Society, told The Independent: “I think that whoever has parodied the poster has, in every way, misinterpreted the campaign. In fact I think that anyone who believes that we have not considered the need for safety for all self-identifying women in public bathrooms has also misinterpreted what we were trying to achieve with the original poster.

    “I’m both angry and hurt that this may have been put up by a student at the university.”

    Hattie Stamp, the President of the university’s Feminist Society, told Epigram, Bristol’s independent student newspaper: “I think it’s a really hateful thing to do, its intention is to make trans people feel unsafe at Uni by calling them transgender males (when they self-identify as a woman) and completely dismisses their experiences and incites discrimination.”

    The Universty of Bristol Union’s Equality, Liberation and Access Officer Alice Phillips told Pink News: “I’m extremely disturbed by the appearance of this poster in the Wills Memorial building.

    “There is absolutely no place for transphobia at the University of Bristol and as a Union we’re going to be doing everything we can to find out where this has come from.

    She added security services will now be “extra vigilant on their patrols” and will take down any posters they see.

    Paris Lees, a journalist and transgender rights activist, also expressed her concerns regarding the poster.

    READ MORE: TRANSPHOBIC HATE CRIMES SOARED IN 2014
    TRANSGENDER IN JERUSALEM: MEET YISCAH SMITH
    RUSSELL BRAND DEFENDS BRUCE JENNER OVER TRANSPHOBIC BULLYING
    WHY DO GENDERED TOILETS MATTER TO TRANS PEOPLE?
    LEELAH ALCORN SUICIDE: PARENTS ‘STOPPED BEST FRIEND FROM GOING TO TRANSGENDER TEENAGER’S FUNERAL’

    The poster comes after police data revealed that transphobic hate crimes soared in the UK last year, with the true number of attacks likely to be higher.

    According to police data reveals victims have been subjected to assaults, verbal abuse and harassment on the street.

    Eleven forces recorded more transphobic hate crimes between January and November than the whole of 2013, according to figures released to the Press Association under the Freedom of Information Act.

    The Metropolitan Police alone saw offences against transgender people rise by 44 per cent in 2014.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/transphobic-poster-at-university-of-bristol-condemned-by-student-groups-as-hateful-9992860.html


  29. I just hope none of these young women get caught. Crazy as the atmosphere is these days I wouldn’t put it past these schools to expel them.

  30. wayfarer Says:

    I experienced this recently. I was terrified, and felt trapped. The man whom I could see at the mirror, from the gap between my stall door and the door jamb was well over 6 foot. He entered the third of three stalls in the women’s bathroom of an isolated and otherwise empty highway rest stop, and paused at the mirror again after he peed what was the equivalent of four female bladders and urinary tracts. I could not get up. I could not ‘stop’ what I was doing and I dropped my cane in terror as he lingered at the mirror. He casually passed his fingertips under the tap and left. Since there was an open door policy in both men and women’s washrooms there, I could see stall doors open at the men’s when I passed by. He had no urgent need to enter the women’s. Reading about it is one thing, being an old disabled woman sat in fear while he enjoyed what he must have known what he was causing, is another.

    • morag99 Says:

      What an awful experience, wayfarer. Horrifying. And of course he enjoyed it. So many so-called transwomen also enjoy our terror. That’s why they ridicule us for it and make jokes about it. Our fear is their pleasure.

      • kesher Says:

        What’s especially frustrating is that they seem to think they’re so cute and clever and original when they mock our fear. It’s one of those things that glaringly outs them as men. We women have been mocked for our understandable fear of men starting when we were children. Trans “women” might understand how their behavior makes them look if they were actually women.


    • That sounds horrible wayfarer. This is intolerable that you would have to suffer that way. In those places that are allowing an “open door” policy, are there any plans for having stalls that go all the way to the floor and ceiling, as is done in Europe (or so I understand). Those little flimsy stalls that we have now are ridiculous.


  31. @Roslyn,

    “I just hope none of these young women get caught. Crazy as the atmosphere is these days I wouldn’t put it past these schools to expel them.”

    If more women did this, they couldn’t expel us all. Even if they expelled some women, non-violent resistance against an injustice has a proud history.

  32. Me Says:

    How I try to explain this issue to the uninformed, but confused, folks is that public bathrooms are about biology….plumbing ;)….not about what a person calls themselves. In other words, those with a penis go into one bathroom and those with vaginas go into another. It has absolutely zippo to do with how one might feel about having a penis or a vagina. I’ve had some progress with this approach. It’s too bad they can’t get the idea that women and men both need private single-sex places to use the facilities, however.

  33. janetwo Says:

    @Adrian “Why does it matter what we think, indeed? Because that’s where it all starts with the “transwomen are women” M2T crowd. They are obsessed with being seen as “women” (quotes are important) for whatever reason. It’s all about the interplay of the observer, being seen as/treated as/interacted with as “women.” ”

    Meanwhile real women would be content just being treated as human.

  34. Elisa Says:

    Yay excellent women. If any of you happen to be reading this and want to connect with another UK radical feminist, please reply to this, and we can message privately. (I’m not a trans activist don’t worry, I am serious about this)

  35. Jenny Says:

    Love this!😀


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