Aydin Olson-Kennedy, MSW urges “Gender Surgery” for Down Syndrome Child in Intensive Care Unit

August 21, 2015

aydin olson kennedy down syndrome 1 Social worker Aydin Olson-Kennedy of the Los Angeles Gender Center is calling on the transgender community to donate funds to perform a double mastectomy on a child with Down Syndrome who is currently in an Intensive Care Unit due to her complex medical issues. “Just say yes to donating and sharing”, urges Olson-Kennedy. Aydin is a representative of The Child and Adolescent Program at Los Angeles Gender Center, which works in collaboration with Dr. Johanna Olson, Md. at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles, rubber-stamping children as psychologically competent to undergo the irreversible medical gender treatments the doctor provides before the age of consent. Aydin is a lesbian who takes testosterone and has undergone breast removal herself. Regular readers may remember her long-running YouTube channel “Aydin33” where she deliberated at length over her own gender-related mental health issues. Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Johanna Olson were legally married in a lesbian ceremony last month which was featured in Gay Weddings Magazine. aydin olson kennedy los angeles gender center In addition to their positions facilitating and administering off-label sex hormone treatments to children under the age of consent, both Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Dr. Johanna Olson are also employed by the Endo International Pharmaceutical corporation which formulates and markets the hormones being prescribed.

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Commercial Disclosure from the 2015 National Transgender Health Conference

The fundraiser for the developmentally-disabled child, named “Sky”, is scripted by her mother, “Mary T”, as the child is apparently unable to read and write, or dictate on her own. It reads:

“The Story

My name is Sky. Most of you know me as Mary’s son. My mom writes this for me, to help with your understanding. I may be a stranger to many of you reading this, but you may be familiar with my plight.


I have come a ways on my journey as a transgender young man, feeling awkward and out of place in the female assigned body in which I was born. Realizing my male identity, I have felt since early puberty that this is wrong, that this isn’t the way a dude’s body is supposed to appear. I have, accordingly, worn multiple baggy layers to cover the uncomfortable masses on my chest for the last many years and tried to convince everyone that I came across that it’s not me, that I’m a guy. It pains me even to look at an image of myself. I acknowledge that it has been quite a journey for my mom to adjust too, having had no previous knowledge that I was actually born this way. When my mom was finally on board with the right understanding and able to affirm my gender, we spent the last few years together, trying to find all the right treatments and supports. 


I am, finally, ready to proceed with top surgery (a double mastectomy with bilateral male chest reconstruction). My long time family practitioner and recent mental health therapist agree that this procedure is necessary for me. Without it, I will have continued problems with my health and emotional well being, as is common for transgender individuals who do not receive the medical interventions that they require.


Though the road has seemed long, what I have wanted and hoped to see happen, since discovery of my developing body embarking on the wrong pubescent path, will finally be!! The surgery date is set and plans have been finalized for a flight and accommodations mid-summer to meet the surgeon we have settled on for this procedure.


Our next challenge is to pay for surgery costs and all other related costs in getting there and staying until post-op appointment time. As I and my mom both rely on a limited fixed income and are struggling with finances at this time, embarking on this may create much hardship for us in the near future, if we don’t get a little help from our friends, old and new.


There have already been many costs involved for accessing the care that I have needed. The state Medicaid that is all of my health insurance will not be accepted by appropriate surgeons anywhere that we have looked and it is up to my mom and me to find a way to foot the bill for my top surgery. It is our goal to collect as much as we can to cover these total estimated costs which will easily come to at least $11,500 for surgery, facility fees, travel and accommodations for myself and my mom for one week.


I want to ask you to please pitch in whatever you can, a very little or a lot. Every little bit will help, as it all adds up and it all will help me in such a big way.


PLEASE DONATE TO MY TOP SURGERY FUND

Fundraiser Updates 3

Posted on July 8, 2015 by Mary T

There appears to be a lag in fundraising, while some time has been lost in promoting. Top surgery for Sky will now, very unfortunately, need be postponed a few more months down the road from the August date we had scheduled, as Sky is currently in ICU with a critical medical condition that need first be resolved. This turn of events does allow us more time to gather much needed funds to take care of things for Sky, before coming up near to a new surgery date. Your help is needed now more than ever. Please donate to get us to Sky’s top surgery.

Posted on June 30, 2015 by Mary T

We have received an additional $125 in donations this last week to add to the tally shown here for a total of $725 received toward our goal. We are so very grateful for the kindness and generosity of all of you who have contributed to Sky’s cause. Please continue to share and promote this fundraiser site, as you are able, to help us to get closer to being able to pay for all expenses of Sky’s top surgery. As the date of the procedure approaches, Sky is feeling more and more encouraged to believe that his dream WILL soon be realized.

Posted on June 25, 2015 by Mary T

We actually are starting out with a few donations from prior fundraising effort. Total received so far for Sky’s top surgery is $405.00. So add that to what is shown here that is raised towards our desired goal. NO AMOUNT IS TOO SMALL. Please donate what you can and pay it forward, if you will.”

The age of the girl is unknown. Also unknown is whether off-label hormone treatments have been administered to the child’s reproductive system. The mother also runs a “Top Surgery for Sky” Facebook Page that contains various other fundraisers. Thank you to blogger 4th Wave Now,  (“a lefty gender-critical mom of a teen would-be FTM”), who first brought this situation to our attention via her important post: “Coming soon to a state near you? Double mastectomy for your 15-year-old, without parental consent”.

*UPDATE* Read Dirt’s explosive two-part follow-up to this story here: http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2015/08/ftm-top-surgery-for-sky-tragic-story-in.html

and here: http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2015/08/ftm-top-surgery-for-sky-tragic-story-in_24.html

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148 Responses to “Aydin Olson-Kennedy, MSW urges “Gender Surgery” for Down Syndrome Child in Intensive Care Unit”

  1. petuniacat00 Says:

    This is horrifying. Someone needs to contact children’s services in LA. And make sure that they understand that this is absolutely not medically necessary. My God, she’s already in intensive care? And who is her mother using to raise the funds? Whoever it is, Indiegogo or whoever, has a huge ethical problem here. And who’s the surgeon? Tell Nightline. Holy crap.

  2. kesher Says:

    I can only hope people continue to not give money to this “cause”.

  3. gallaradfem Says:

    What the fuck, seriously. I can’t even understand if the girl expressed the wish to go trough SRS or it’s just those two manipulating her mother… Anyway, this does look suspicious as hell.

  4. Susan Nunes Says:

    The district attorney should get involved. This is criminal.

  5. Fruitopia Says:

    I don’t wish to stereotype, but people with Downs Syndrome can be incredibly suggestible. It’s completely unethical and EVIL that anyone would consider mutilating a girl with learning disabilities like this.

    • Secret Serval Says:

      My ex sister in law has Downs Syndrome. She was very troubled by puberty because it’s a pretty big thing to go through when you are 13 and suddenly have to take care of bleeding, wear a bra and are told to sit like a lady blah blah blah. Same as it is for teenage girls without learning disabilities.
      Lots of teenagers like to wear baggy clothes. Certainly they are more comfortable for girls than tight jeans, skirts and fitted tops.
      It doesn’t make this girl trans.
      People with Downs are more likely to have complications under general anaesthesia. To voluntarily put your child under in order to give her an unnecessary operation is terrifying. How have her wishes been communicated? Does she have a specialist advocate. By specialist I mean in learning disabilities, not trans issues.
      This is depressing and alarming in equal measures.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Good questions. I don’t know any of the backstory on this. Just what is posted, that a MSW representative from the (Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles affiliated) LA Gender Center was urging the community to make donations. Perhaps someone involved will illuminate us. The mother, Mary, does make public posts under her full legal name on Facebook and “transgender children” news articles, but not specifically about “Sky”, so I’ve opted not to name her here.


      • This is a major concern. Though it’s treated trivially by some, a mastectomy is MAJOR surgery and to put a child who already has health concerns through one unnecessarily is absolutely outrageous.

  6. AWESOME CAT Says:

    Imagine my surprise to learn that Aydin Kennedy and Johanna Olson have a serious financial interest in or arrangement with a company that makes testosterone and estrogen (“Endo Pharmaceuticals”). Of the 80+ “faculty speakers” at this year’s “National Transgender Health Summit,” only five people disclosed an ongoing financial interest or affiliation with a commercial company. Aydin Kennedy and Johanna Olson were two of the five.

    http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/trans?page=ev-summit-2015-ce

    • GallusMag Says:

      HOLY SHIT. Thank you for this.

      ETA: Post updated.

    • Bea Says:

      Wow. Good sleuthing. I was thinking it sounded like the family’s scam to get money, not for breast mutilation, but just to support themselves. It would be easy to take the money and then claim the surgery had been performed.

      So I guess the next strategy of the trans-ocracy is to get parents of developmentally disabled kids convinced their kids are trans, and carve ’em up/shoot ’em full of hormones. This girl evidently can’t speak for herself, so she can’t protest either.

      • Bea Says:

        And LOL @ “Aydin.” Just waiting for one of these FTT to call herself “Maiden.”

      • GallusMag Says:

        There was actually a popular FTM blog back in the day called “Not Another Aiden”. Seriously!😛

      • Dana Says:

        I know someone who has a daughter named Aiden but she’s a daughter, not a son, and she was named that at birth. I guess it’s a gender-neutral name?

      • Loup-loup garou Says:

        Aiden’s traditionally a male name. Like Caitlin, it used to be ethnically specific (Irish/Scottish), then it got trendy in the 90s. Since Aiden doesn’t scream “man” to a lot of Americans the same way John, Bill, or Steve do, it might become gender-neutral if enough people just like the sound and decide it would be an attractive name for their daughter on that basis.

        Gender-neutral names have a tendency to become girls’ names, however. Lindsay and Courtney used to be fine for boys, but today most people would probably assume anyone with either of those names is a woman. Same thing with Madison – the pitcher for the Giants notwithstanding.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Awesome Cat is the awesome-ist! x

    • GallusMag Says:

      Dr. Stephen Rosenthal (employed by AbbVie Pharmaceuticals) runs the San Francisco (UCSF) transgender children clinic.

      • AWESOME CAT Says:

        And AbbVie Pharmaceuticals of course makes Lupron.

        In 2014 this Endo Pharmaceuticals was fined nearly $200 million by the US Dept. of Justice for its off-label marketing of lidocaine patches.

        http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/endo-pharmaceuticals-and-endo-health-solutions-pay-1927-million-resolve-criminal-and-civil

        Seems like they are still using the same business model. As you pointed out in a post last November, Olson (and undoubtedly, by now, many other depraved docs) are skipping the Lupron and just launching the 12 year olds (& by now quite possibly 11, 10, 9 year olds) on testosterone or estrogen.

        If giving a healthy female child a powerful drug intended and approved for middle-aged men (or a healthy male child a drug intended and approved for middle-aged women) isn’t an “off-label use,” I don’t know what is.

  7. GallusMag Says:

    Off topic: looks like Aydin has had her failed hipster stretched earlobes surgically repaired.


    • She can certainly afford it.😦

      Who knew trans was such a lucrative career.

      • ftmskeptic Says:

        “Aydin” is fortunate her earlobes can be restored to their natural state, just like they were before she made a youthful decision to garner attention for herself or perhaps be cool, like so many kids do. Kids who have been sterilized and undergone cross-sex hormone injections, including those Aydin herself has counseled, however… unfortunately they are not so lucky.

      • kesher Says:

        How many other areas can you make good money with a masters in social work?

  8. sarineal Says:

    There is a long and sordid history of sterilising those with intellectual disabilities. It’s a very real prospect rather than that mysterious man feeling people claim to have this is to deal with the parent’s own problems dealing with the reality of their child growing up and developing secondary sex characteristics. They then have to manage and adapt to someone who, while they face challenges, is growing into an adult and a whole host of issues related to that.

    Claiming their child is trans dodges a lot of the difficult ethical issues involved in doing this and it strikes me that giving this child a mastectomy renders her body (at least externally) back into a pre-pubertal state, back into the state it was as a child. A later hysterectomy will only seal the deal so to speak with the result the parents and caregivers simply won’t have to deal with her femaleness. That there is the real possibility that she doesn’t understand at all, or has only the most basic concept of what she is feeling without the insight for the future that is required for true consent is a bonus here as it means it’s easy, it is what she wants after all. Done. The risks to her in the surgery doesn’t come into the picture, the way it is cast is that it is necessary for her “mental health”.

    • Susan Nunes Says:

      Judging from the looks of her, she appears to be a typical Down syndrome young person. These people have little concept of what is being done to them. Great kids, very, very easily manipulated, low intellectual capability for the most part.

      This would not be the first case where disabled kids are being forced into sterilization and other methods to prevent these kids from reaching adulthood for the convenience of the parents. These parents “justify” these acts to lower the chances of sexual abuse of these kids or to prevent pregnancy or even the messes of menstruation. This is actually criminal, and somebody needs get local disability organizations and the district attorney involved.

      Here is an article from a couple of years ago in the Atlantic:

      http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/09/sterilizing-a-child-for-a-better-life/279765/

    • Secret Serval Says:

      Is there a court of protection or similar which makes decisions on behalf of individuals who lack capacity. There is one in England and Wales which about 15 years ago blocked a parent’s request for her daughter to be sterilised deeming the operation not to be in her best interests. The court has ruled otherwise in other applications for sterilisation on young people with learning disabilities but it does provide an extra level of scrutiny rather than a procedure being carried oit on a parent’s say so.

  9. Siobhan Says:

    Forced sterilization of people with developmental disabilities is a human rights abuse. This doesn’t just seem like Munchausen’s, but an effort to neutralize the body of this young disabled woman. Caregivers can be very frightened by the sexuality of their young charges and how vulnerable it makes them. If she gets a mastectomy and is perceived as a boy, she is less vulnerable, and I have to wonder if the parents aren’t at least subconsciously seeing that as an answer. I certainly hope she isn’t on male hormones as it sounds like she is medically very fragile. Many with Down syndrome have heart and other conditions that can be very serious. This makes me so sad for this young woman.

    • prozac Says:

      Testosterone adds a huge risk of heart attack. There is no way anyone ethical could possibly be prescribing for that for her… Right?? Medicaid will not be accepted by appropriate surgeons anywhere they have looked… Think about that…

      Plus, who books surgery without having any money to pay for it?

      • nonny Says:

        @selmaith: I’m trying really hard not to flip out here, but I can’t believe what I’m reading???

        Do you think she won’t be affected by the tremendous sex-characteristic-specific bodily trauma of top surgery, regardless of her limited understanding?
        Why not just sterilize people with Downs? And why stop there? What about schizophrenics? What about women with “hysteria?” Poor women?

        Is this what particularly vulnerable populations should have done to their very own bodies because of what men are capable of?

        Which other vulnerable populations?
        I could easily pass for male with enough testosterone & surgery (I know, because I tried, with T anyway- I’m very tall, big hands and feet, big features and broad of shoulder)- should I just go for it, for my own good? What if I was more vulnerable? Like if I was homeless again?

        Oh, wait a minute- this whole conversation is POINTLESS, because guess who is most likely to rape and abuse a woman? PEOPLE WHO KNOW HER. Family members and other “caretakers.” Neighbors. Teachers. PEOPLE WHO KNOW SHE’S FEMALE and dgaf about the absence of breast tissue.

        Jfc.

      • nonny Says:

        Personal to Gallus- sorry if I hit reply in the wrong section, I’m sitting in an idiot sports bar waiting for the sun to go down and these dogbrains are hollaring at the TV.

      • GallusMag Says:

        no problem nonny! great post. Here’s mud in your eye! *clink

    • sellmaeth Says:

      To be honest, I think that maybe she would really be better off with a male body. As you mention, she is extremely vulnerable, and it may well be that she has noticed this and wishes to change it.

      Though of course you are also right about the heart conditions, which would make any kind of operation more dangerous than it already would be.

      It would be more sensible to use donated money to ensure her safety. She seems to be living with her mother, so arrangements could be made that she has a safe place to go if/when her mother dies.

      While I understand the wish to have individual safety (as I understand that women in Saudi Arabia undergo gender change surgeries), it is more sensible to address the root of the problem.

      • stchauvinism Says:

        Sky will never have a male body, she will have female body that is exposed to testosterone and has been subjected to a double mastectomy.

      • sellmaeth Says:

        True, but what matters for her risk of sexual abuse is whether her body looks male to others. Which it might.

      • Loup-loup garou Says:

        She won’t have a male body; at best, she might pass for male in some social settings. Whatever protection that might afford would be very limited. F2Ts are still vulnerable to rape, and there are men who target them.

        Someone who targets girls/women with Down syndrome for rape is unlikely to be put off by a detail like trans status. Those people don’t get excited because they think their victims are hot, it’s the vulnerability that interests them.

        If this whole thing isn’t a fund-raising scam, it’s probably some kind of misguided attempt to protect the girl from rape (as others have suggested).

        Some heavy-duty life insurance for the mother and a very careful estate plan might help. One stipulating a conservator and third-party oversight. It would be complicated and expensive to set up, but not as expensive as a bilateral mastectomy and a lifetime on synthetic testosterone, with all the complications likely to result. If a smart, feminist lawyer wanted to do the estate planning pro bono, that would take care of most of the up-front costs; there’d just be the insurance premiums to keep up with. (I know, “just.” But considering what’s at stake…)

      • dejavublonde Says:

        This has been deeply bothering me all day and I knew there was a reason beyond all the obvious and your comment helped me realize what it was- probably not in a way you would have thought though.

        What I finally put my finger on is while legally it might not be the definition of, this feels very much morally like rape. this young girl is developmentally disabled, unable to understand or consent to what is being physically forced on and into her body. She will not only not understand fully what is happening but likely also will not be able to express what it did to her emotionally.

        I can’t even yet express fully how revolted and saddened I am by this.

  10. RadicalGrandma Says:

    This is truly criminal. As is any of this kind of surgery or hormone replacement or puberty blocking of those who have not reached the age of consent.

    Simple child abuse, nothing less.

  11. JoannaDW Says:

    OT: I live in southern Maine where yet another transgender crime (initially believed to be a woman, then outed as transgender, only this time she is a FTT) was committed in a Shaws in Saco. Apparently stalked the victim for a month before killing her. Funny, now that I’m reading this blog regularly, I see this shit everywhere.

    Story here: http://www.pressherald.com/2015/08/20/supermarket-where-fatal-stabbing-took-place-reopens/

    On topic: I discovered transgender when I was in middle school in the early 2000s…back then, people still talked about the need to transition surgically to be “fully” a member of the opposite sex. People were still talking about the need to weed out other causes of gender dysphoria before diagnosing transsexualism and absolutely no transitioning was pursued until the child was a legal adult. Of course, I’m sure lots of people didn’t follow the rules, but at least people were talking about the need for specific rules and making an attempt to enforce them. Now there’s not even a pretense of that.

    I work with people with mental retardation and we are taught the history of disability in our training. We are educated in particular about rights violations, sexual and other types of abuse, medical experimentation and the suppression of healthy sexuality. It’s truly a shame to see history repeating itself. What’s happening here? A mentally challenged, likely lesbian gender nonconforming child being railroaded into a medical experiment to erase her identity before having a chance to be who she is. And being forced to participate in men’s sexual fetishes to boot.

    Lastly, what doctor would agree to perform such a risky, unnecessary surgery on someone medically fragile?!?! Hello!

    • MaryMacha Says:

      Followed the link. That is so sad. I feel so sorry for the family. But also, if you look at the photo of the perp, you can see how troubled she is… and how crazy. I bet no one’s going to insist she be housed with the males.

      • JoannaDW Says:

        Agreed, or at least I hope she wouldn’t be housed with males. Some of the more radical, and self centered, trans activists might demand it even against her own wishes because otherwise we would be conceding that she’s not really male, thereby misgendering her and doing violence against all trans everywhere. How awful would that be!

        I also wonder how much of her aggression is related to testosterone treatment. If she has mental health issues (highly likely), the testosterone will only exacerbate them. It’s well known that athletes that abuse steroids develop ‘rhoid rage. Well, what is T? What are these steroids being abused by athletes made of? Even corticosteroids are known to make people agitated. Point made.

      • Dogtowner Says:

        She’s to undergo a psychiatric evaluation; I would guess she will be determined to be criminally insane. There is a unit in Augusta, Maine, for those determined to be criminally insane, and if my RN husband remembers correctly (he did a clinical there), men and women are housed separately. He was told by the nurses there that he did not want to work there — they were regularly assaulted, and the federal government withheld certification and funding for a while due to the dangerous working conditions.

    • Susan Nunes Says:

      I doubt she is lesbian. Most Down syndrome children have little concept about sex, let alone orientation.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      JESUS THAT MUGSHOT.

      What a heartbreaking case. And she does have a history of mental illness, so if she was on testosterone, it sure as shit didn’t help the situation.

  12. ftmskeptic Says:

    Sickening. Just sickening.

  13. Caroline Says:

    Incredible. How far is this madness going to go? This is an ideology and marketing strategy that is exploiting vulnerable people.

    Thank you, Gallus Mag for your excellent research and analysis and all the work that you have done in pointing out how harmful this trans ideology is.

  14. prozac Says:

    Pardon the slight digression but when one googles “gender dysphoria down’s syndrome”, this is the first image that is returned:

    • branjor Says:

      Nauseating, but not surprising for google. And ignorance runs so deep in patriarchy. Downs syndrome is real, but contrary to what most people think they “know” schizophrenia is not a real medical entity. And of course transgenderism isn’t either, as most who read here know.

  15. nonny Says:

    In my lunch break. Had to stop eating. Literally sickened.

  16. sellmaeth Says:

    To me, it is very obvious that this girl, like many other girls, is not comfortable in her female body (who is, in the patriarchy?) and of course, both due to her age and disability, she doesn’t have the capability to think outside the gender-box and realize that she just feels like a human being, and that human being = male is a wrong equation.

  17. markangelo64 Says:

    This is getting out of control and more and more bizarre with each passing day. People are not seeing the severity of this.

  18. markangelo64 Says:

    I have a question, is Dr. Jo’s Olsons daughter trans?

    • GallusMag Says:

      No. Jo Olson is a “chaser”.

      • markangelo64 Says:

        I was investigating a bit, we are going to cover this on our show Tuesday. It appears as her child is trans.
        Did you watch Thursdays show with Dr. Kathy Mandigo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHvQfONfYlg

        She is an amazing doctor coming forward

      • GallusMag Says:

        I’ll be interested to hear why you think that. Olson has specifically used her daughter as an example of a “cis” girl in interviews. One time she even relayed an exchange where she asked her daughter if she “felt like” a girl or a boy and the daughter said girl.

      • markangelo64 Says:

        the child looks transgender, also appears to have other medical issues. I have been closely studying her mannerisms, body language, et.

        Do you have links of the set videos?

      • GallusMag Says:

        I don’t know what on earth a transgender child would “look like”. But then I’m not a genderist.
        Why are you “closely studying” Olson’s child anyway???? That sounds a bit alarming, actually. The child is not a public figure or spokesperson. To my knowledge Olson isn’t pimping her out to the public. Leave her to her privacy. Totally inappropriate.

        Don’t know what videos you are referring to- “set” videos? What is that.

      • GallusMag Says:

        The idea that children have “transgender mannerisms or body language” goes against every tenet of feminism and everything GenderTrender stands for.

      • markangelo64 Says:

        I am thinking that is her push to transition other kids. When you released this blog, I went on both their pages, and saw her kid,a and was wondering if the child was transgender. Don’t over read into things, please.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Her push to transgender kids is that she is a “chaser”. She is a genderist of the non-trans variety.

      • markangelo64 Says:

        you said you watched an interview with her daughter where she asked her daughter if she felt like a girl. So I wanted to know if you had the link. Why must you blow things out of proportion? I am only trying to investigate why the Olsons are pushing for this transing of children. I am not the enemy here.

      • GallusMag Says:

        I don’t remember if she made these statements in videos or print, I just recall her making them because I thought it was weird.

      • markangelo64 Says:

        I wanted to add to your question, how does s child look transgender? As an Occupational Therapist I am taught normal and abnormal child psychology, development etc. Alex, Looks male, being passed as female. In my professionals opinion.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Ah. Well children in genderist families tend to be highly performative of sex role stereotypes in their manner and dress.

    • Loup-loup garou Says:

      That’s just as distasteful as Larry Summers telling some anecdote about his daughters to a reporter to explain why girls are inherently nurturing and bad at math.

    • markangelo64 Says:

      What is a chaser?

      • GallusMag Says:

        A gendersexual who is attracted exclusively to transgenders.

      • anon male Says:

        It kinda blows my mind that trans stuff is accelerating at such a pace that someone can have achieved your place in the ecosystem without having read an Annalee Newitz article or whatever. It makes me feel damn near ancient…

    • markangelo64 Says:

      oh okay, thank you for your response.

    • markangelo64 Says:

      Any time🙂


  19. Gallus, great job of digging up more information on Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Dr. Johanna Olson. It doesn’t surprise me. We’ve seen the name Dr. Johanna Olson before. Gendertrender posted articles about Dr. Johanna Olson.

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/skipping-the-puberty-blockers-american-transgender-children-doctors-are-going-rogue/

    Both social worker Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Dr. Johanna Olson, Md. at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles should lose their professional licenses. I googled “Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles” and “Center for Transyouth Health and Development “, but it says, “Stop, page not found”. I wonder what is going on, and if the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles discovered this blog. Perhaps they are updating their website.

    http://www.chla.org/site/c.ipINKTOAJsG/b.7501767/k.5FBA/Transgender_Services__Adolescent_Medicine__Case_Management__Health_Education.htm

    At the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles, their logo says, “We Treat Kids Better”. Read it again. It makes me want to cry and scream. I’m so outraged that I don’t know what to think. Apparently, “We Treat Kids Better”, involves urging disabled girls with Down Syndrome to get mastectomies and knowingly sterilizing children with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones. Transgender activists have completely ignored the ethical issues involved in drugging and sterilizing children with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones. Now, they are advocating “top surgery” for women with Down Syndrome. What will these ghouls do next?

    There are no words to express how much this sickens me. This poor girl is not capable of understanding what is going on. I swear to God this is something right out of the infamous Nazi Dr. Mengele’s laboratory. It is clearly a human rights violation with profound moral and ethical implications.

    Please call, email, or write to the Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles and express your outrage.

    http://www.chla.org/

    (1.) “Top surgery” (mastectomies with the surgical trimming down of areolas and nipples) and other “gender surgery” for disabled women with Down Syndrome is morally repugnant. “Top surgery” for women with Down Syndrome is clearly a human rights violation because they lack the ability to make informed consent. Read what Sky says.

    “My name is Sky. Most of you know me as Mary’s son. My mom writes this for me, to help with your understanding.”

    If people aren’t familiar with “top surgery”, this is what it looks like.

    http://www.surgerytheater.com/video/6423/Dr.%20Daniel%20Medalie%20performs%20FtM%20top%20surgery%20%28double%20incision%20mastectomy%20with%20nipple%20grafting

    Calling it “top surgery” masks the reality of what is actually happening to otherwise healthy female anatomy. It is ghastly in and of itself, but the thought of this happening to a disabled woman with Down Syndrome who can’t clearly express herself makes me sick.

    (2.) There is a conflict of interest between Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Dr. Johanna Olson and pharmaceutical companies. Gallus, great job of proving that they are “consultants” to Endo International Pharmaceutical. In the U.S, the GnRH agonists (puberty suppressing drugs) are very expensive. After the GnRH agonist, there is a life time of cross gender hormones.

    (3.) Both social worker Aydin Olson-Kennedy and Dr. Johanna Olson should lose their professional licenses for all the reasons listed above and other reasons listed below.

    (4.) The Center for Transyouth Health and Development at the Children’s Hospital needs to be closed down permanently. These deeply disturbing and Orwellian experiments on children just keep getting more extreme and ghastly. Shut this clinic down! Shut it down now.

    (5.) “Top surgery” on women with Down Syndrome isn’t the only ethical issue involved in the “transitioning” of vulnerable people who lack the ability to give informed consent. Drugging and sterilizing children with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones is also an ethical issue, and it’s been going on for years. People with Down Syndrome can’t make informed decisions and neither can children. This is being done to them. Gendertrender and other blogs and websites have been covering the drugging of children with GnRH agonists and/or cross gender hormones for years. Some doctors are skipping the puberty suppressing drugs and going to cross gender hormones at age 11. Below are only a few articles. There is a lot of information out there. For new readers, I’ll toss out a few articles.

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/uk-transgender-chicken-circuit-pre-teen-leo-waddell-denied-puberty-blockers-doc-says-long-term-effects-unknown/

    http://4thwavenow.com/2015/07/20/a-hunt-through-clinicaltrials-gov-who-is-recruiting-puberty-blocked-kids-for-research-studies/

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/skipping-the-puberty-blockers-american-transgender-children-doctors-are-going-rogue/

    http://4thwavenow.com/2015/07/18/false-positives-how-many-12-year-olds-is-it-acceptable-to-mistakenly-sterilize/

    http://4thwavenow.com/2015/07/03/kingpins-of-pediatric-transition-confess-we-have-no-idea-what-were-doingunf/

    Gallus and http://4thwavenow.com, thank you for all that you do. This insanity must stop now.

    • river Says:

      That women/girl in the vid had obviously been binding.

      Re ‘consultants’: it’s legal. It happens with every surgical procedure and new medical intervention or treatment of *any* kind, and UCLA is the world leader in this type of consultancy, and training. The consultant will go out to other medical schools and train other surgeons, therapists and rehab teams. It’s. ALL. Legal academic teaching.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Except it’s NOT legal to market drugs for off-label usage.

      • river Says:

        Not legal to market, but legal to use.

      • GallusMag Says:

        No one is disputing that.

      • river Says:

        Off-label use is the use of pharmaceutical drugs for an unapproved indication or in an unapproved age group, dosage, or route of administration.[1] Both prescription drugs and over-the-counter drugs (OTCs) can be used in off-label ways, although most studies of off-label use focus on prescription drugs. Off-label use is generally legal unless it violates ethical guidelines or safety regulations. It is commonly used to good effect by physicians, because they understand how to use it correctly. However, it can entail health risks and differences in legal liability. ”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-label_use

        Wikipedia

      • GallusMag Says:

        Whether off-label experimental drugs administered to healthy children for the purposes of social conformity (resulting in their sterilization and lifetime drug dependence among other adverse effects) constitutes a violation of “ethical guidelines” and “safety regulations” could be argued.

        But what is under discussion in this thread is the legality of using paid consultant providers to market those off-label drugs and promote the use of those off-label drugs in contravention of FDA regulations, as Endo Pharma, the Olson’s employer, was guilty of in the 2014 suit linked above.

  20. XendawG Says:

    I am shaking with anger right now. This is sickening. I cannot even start a response…

  21. GallusMag Says:

    Google has delisted this post and all the re-blogs of this post so it is censored from their search engine results. Comes up immediately on the other search engines. Total censorship.

    • AWESOME CAT Says:

      Astonishing that in addition to their Stalinist policing of plain speech, objective science and reality-based discourse, trans activists (well represented among Silicon Vally tech bros) actually think it right to physically stifle your communication through Google, the single most important internet channel. They try to silence you, but leave the gate wide open for all manner of viciousness and depravity — as a matter of principle. Why does this not surprise me.

      They are filthy fucking dreamers, paraphiliac power-trippers and that’s all there is to it.

    • anon male Says:

      afaict, it’s up now as I was able to search into it, albeit using a direct text string.

  22. GallusMag Says:

    Top Surgery funding for a boy with Down’s syndrome (self.ftm)
    submitted 7 hours ago * by keinalutiny poet – T 1/5/15
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    [–]AlexaviortheBravier27 | Ace, Gay | T since 3-19-15 [score hidden] 7 hours ago
    So jealous that his mother is able to write something so understanding.
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    [–]mightybite [score hidden] 2 hours ago
    Sorry, our policy on r/ftm is that fundraisers be posted only within the dedicated fundraiser thread, which is stickied to the top of the subreddit. I have deleted this post but you are welcome to repost it here.
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    [–]FortuneDays-29 | nonbinary | low dose T since 8/13/15 [score hidden] 2 hours ago
    Here’s what I said on facebook:
    I usually don’t share links to pages of people asking for money, but this one is an exception.
    Sky is a young man with Down syndrome. He is also transgender. Like many trans dudes, he needs to have top surgery (double mastectomy), as his chest is causing him considerable dysphoria and distress. His long time family practitioner and recent mental health therapist agree that this procedure is necessary for him. He and his mom rely on a limited fixed income, and the state Medicaid that is his only health insurance is not accepted by appropriate surgeons anywhere they’ve looked.
    Sky is in at least three separate marginalized groups: people with Down syndrome and other physical and/or mental disabilities; transgender folk; and people with low/fixed income. His situation is a great example of “intersectionality”. The difficulties Sky faces from being a part of these three groups is more than just adding them all together. Because he has a low income and is transgender, he either has to save up for surgery over many years experiencing crippling dysphoria the whole time, or rely on the kindness and charity of others. Because he is transgender and has Down syndrome, some people question whether or not he has the ability to make decisions about his own body. And because he is all three and is putting himself out there on the internet, we get some hateful, ignorant people writing some of the most infuriating garbage I’ve come across.
    Sky and his mom are trying to raise $11,500. So far they only have $350. Please consider donating a few dollars, or at least sharing this to your newsfeed. You won’t just be helping Sky: there are other transgender people with Down syndrome, many without such understanding doctors and parents and loved ones. Let’s make this visible. Let’s make a difference.
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    [–]timewarperuk [score hidden] 5 hours ago
    I admit I’m having some second thoughts about the case like Sky’s capacity to make well-informed decisions about something like chest surgery. Hopefully this was looked into thoroughly by psychologists and top surgery will greatly improve his quality of life.
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    [–]softknox [score hidden] 5 hours ago
    According to the website, both his long term doctor and a mental health practitioner agreed it was helpful. Between them and his mom, that’s more support than many receive, so I think it’s safe to say that this was “looked into thoroughly”.
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    [–]timewarperuk [score hidden] 4 hours ago
    I quess I never considered the fact that people with Down’s syndrome could also be transgender. It just made the world seem a bit of a sadder place as I just imagined all those those that don’t get support or are unable to articulate their feelings.
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    [–]softknox [score hidden] 3 hours ago
    Well, I admit to having a slight advantage. I have a couple friends who work with people who are developmentally disabled, and from them I’ve learned a lot about the issues facing those communities. There’s a general lack of advocacy and support in terms of gender & sexuality, even for those who are cis & hetero. Also, the statistics on sexual assault rates are appalling.
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    [–]evendeathmaydie [score hidden] 2 hours ago
    Does anyone here watch American Horror Story? The character Pepper is based on a (possibly) transgender circus performer who was assigned male at birth but who used female pronouns, wore women’s clothing and played female characters.
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    [–]FortuneDays-29 | nonbinary | low dose T since 8/13/15 [score hidden] 2 hours ago
    This looks dangerously close to gatekeeping for me. I am not an expert on intellectual disabilities and issues of agency, but I don’t think his mom would help put him out there if she didn’t think this is absolutely the right thing to do.
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/3hvmec/top_surgery_funding_for_a_boy_with_downs_syndrome/

  23. GallusMag Says:

    Downs syndrome and transgender? (self.ask_transgender)
    submitted 6 hours ago * by myiukiPansexual Transgender

    I found a (terrible to read and “gender critical”) article about a young ftm named sky whose mom typed up a plea for money for top surgery. I have not been able to find any information about if the young person is able to communicate.
    Is it possible to be both transgender and have downs syndrome?
    I’m going to put the article in a comment so that it can be deleted or ignored.
    Here is some information I found on downs syndrome:
    In the past, sexuality was not considered an issue for any people with Down syndrome because of the inaccurate belief that intellectual disability (formerly known as mental retardation) produced permanent childhood. In fact, all people with Down syndrome have sexual feelings and intimacy needs. It is important that expression of these feelings in socially acceptable, age appropriate ways be recognized by families and caregivers. – See more at: http://www.ndss.org/Resources/Wellness/Sexuality/Sexuality-and-Down-Syndrome/#sthash.oiafKaiT.dpuf
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    [–]Cass_Griffin 3 points 5 hours ago
    Wow, that’s a big question. I don’t know of any studies looking at sex differentiation of the brains of people with Downs syndrome, so I can’t say anything with any level of certainty. I suppose, assuming that those sexually effected areas of the brain develop as they would in people without Downs syndrome, that it’s possible.
    That said, I do think there’s some ethical ambiguity involving trans care for people with Downs. I’m not sure how you’d address their incredibly unique experiences or decide what is or isn’t appropriate for them. There is, I imagine, very little overlap between gender therapists and people who work with Downs patients, so picking apart their psychology would be difficult.
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    [–]FortuneDays-29 | nonbinary | low T since 8/13/15 3 points 3 hours ago
    Is it possible to be both transgender and have downs syndrome?
    Why wouldn’t it be?
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    [–]myiukiPansexual Transgender[S] 1 point 3 hours ago
    My guess is that there is some form of threshold regarding intelligence or capacity to care for oneself or something that may prevent some people with mental disabilities from either expressing their desire to transition or consenting to medical transition.
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    [–]myiukiPansexual Transgender[S] 1 point 6 hours ago
    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/aydin-olson-kennedy-msw-urges-gender-surgery-for-down-syndrome-child-in-intensive-care-unit/
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    [–]Chel_of_the_seaTrans woman 1 point an hour ago
    Please use DoNotLink for articles like this. And honestly, you can safely ignore TERF material; that blog in particular just outright makes shit up pretty regularly.
    permalinkparent

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ask_transgender/comments/3hw0gc/downs_syndrome_and_transgender/

  24. Bev Jo Says:

    Horrific girl abuse. We have no idea what she feels and wants since she sure didn’t dictate that statement. If her health is that precarious, major surgery could kill her. I’m curious if mother Mary has a life insurance policy on her.

    • Janetwo Says:

      It also came to my mind that the mother has less than stellar motivations when it comes to her daughter health. Maybe because I grew up near a psychiatric institution, but I always assumed it was common knowledge that people with Down syndrome are a lot more susceptible to infectious diseases and many others health issues than average people. Post-surgical complications much?

  25. endthewoo Says:

    They transify dead people, they transify children, they transify vunerable teens, they transify people with learning disabilities – all easy targets who can’t talk back to the pressure they are being put under to go along with this grotesque abuse.

    “They” being the perv fetishistic males and all those who have jumped on the bandwagon looking for $$, fame and pomo status points.

  26. petuniacat00 Says:

    Maybe we should start calling “Sex Reassignment Surgery” Sex-role Compliance Surgery. 😖

  27. Nicky Says:

    Reblogged this on Nicky's World and commented:
    Another horrific example of Child abuse at the hands of the Transgender community. Just look at what the Trans are attempting to do to this girl who has Down syndrome and trying to force SRS on her as a way to sterilize her. This is wrong and criminal.


  28. @sellmaeth

    “To be honest, I think that maybe she would really be better off with a male body.”

    I don’t know where you get your information from, but I would like to clarify a few things.

    She will always have a female body. None of these surgeries change one’s biological sex. It’s all an elaborate ruse. “Top surgery” just removes the breasts and surgically whittles down the nipples and areolas. She will still have a vagina, uterus, and ovaries. Most FTMs never undergo “bottom surgery” because of the multiple surgeries involved, and it never creates a fully functional penis. Imagine a young woman with Down Syndrome going into a men’s restroom. If men figure out that she is female, they could rape or assault her. Do you really think that a pervert or rapists cares if she doesn’t have breasts? Small men have been raped, sexually assaulted, and beaten up. What do you think they would do with a Down Syndrome girl with no breasts? If you had a daughter with Down Syndrome, would you want her in a men’s restroom? I’m sure they are going to fill this poor girl’s mind with all kinds of nonsense that she is really a “boy”. So, there she goes wandering into some sleazy men’s restroom somewhere. Telling this girl that she is just one of the “boys” could be a disaster. FTMs are still female, and they can be raped and assaulted just like any other woman. If she is small to begin with, the testosterone won’t make her any taller, or magically make her that much stronger. Testosterone will increase the muscle mass, but if she is small to begin with, that isn’t going to change much. I suppose you think she is going to be completely safe in the transgender community, and they will protect her? There is no guarantee of this. Think again because these are the same people who see no problem with trans registered sex offenders like Paula Witherspoon using women’s restrooms. Do you want her hanging around with MTFs? These males offend at the same rate as other males. I can’t find the link, but I read an article about a transman being sexually assaulted by a MTF. Most transwomen (biological males) still have their penis and testicles.

    Are they going to remove this disabled woman’s uterus and ovaries too? In case you missed it, sterilizing the disabled has a very ugly history. Read the history because advocacy groups for the disabled seriously frown on this ghastly practice. This is a human rights abuse.

    PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) can be an issue with FTMs. Hudson’s Guide says the following,

    “Some physicians recommend hysterectomy (surgical removal of the uterus) and oophorectomy (surgical removal of the ovaries) within the first 5 years of starting testosterone therapy. This is because there is some concern that long-term testosterone treatment may cause the ovaries to develop similar symptoms as those seen in polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS). PCOS has been linked to increased risk of endometrial hyperplasia (a condition that occurs when the lining of the uterus (endometrium) grows too much) and thus endometrial cancer, as well as ovarian cancer.”

    http://www.ftmguide.org/tandhealth.html

    So, some physicians recommend hysterectomy after 5 years of testosterone, but sterilizing the disabled is clearly viewed as a human rights abuse. How does this work?

    How are people going to teach a disabled woman with Down Syndrome to inject testosterone? Seriously, how does this work? It’s possible to get “T” (testosterone) without a letter from a therapist by signing an informed consent form. That is, the patient reads a form with all the possible side effects and signs it. Sky has Down Syndrome and can barely read or write. How can a person with Down Syndrome understand what is on the informed consent form?

    There is nothing in medicine that doesn’t come with risks and side effects. How can a severely disabled woman with Down Syndrome understand the risks involved?

    I have no special expertise working with developmentally disabled individuals, but from what I’ve read and observed, they are easily manipulated.

    @sellmaeth “While I understand the wish to have individual safety (as I understand that women in Saudi Arabia undergo gender change surgeries), it is more sensible to address the root of the problem.”

    I don’t know about Saudi Arabia. I think you are referring to Iran where gay men and lesbians are routinely coerced into sex reassignment surgery. This is another human rights issue, but this is a different topic.

    @sellmaeth “It would be more sensible to use donated money to ensure her safety. She seems to be living with her mother, so arrangements could be made that she has a safe place to go if/when her mother dies.”

    I agree completely. She needs to be in a safe, supportive environment. She needs to be around females who will care for her.

    Any surgeon who would do “top surgery” on a woman with Down Syndrome needs to lose his or her license.

    This is an Orwellian nightmare, and it needs to stop now. I feel as though I’m in the middle of a bad dream, and I’ll never wake up.

    • Fruitopia Says:

      People with Down Syndrome are typically short. They are on average at the 2nd percentile for height for their age. Not only are they typically very short, but they also have low muscle tone, which makes this poor girl even more defenceless.

  29. ImNoCissie Says:

    What they are doing to this girl is just beyond the pale. When you think the trans-kid fad can’t get any worse, it does.

    The Food Network’s Sandra Lee recently underwent a double mastectomy that arguably could have been avoided. She was diagnosed with DCIS. After she was discharged she developed a very serious infection and had to be re-hospitalized for further surgery.

    Taking the risk of a double mastectomy for very early stage “cancer” is currently being debated. Here we have a woman who cannot even give consent being made a target of COMPLETELY and inarguably UNnecessary, radical and major surgery.

    Has anyone contacted the child welfare authorities about this case yet?

    • Biscuit Says:

      Oh yeah – I saw that on her facebook. It looked like an absolutely brutal surgery to go through.

      I can’t imagine advocating it for a child who doesn’t need it, and who already has severe medical issues.

  30. dejavublonde Says:

    I don’t think there is a pm feature here- did you see this? they really kind of hate kids don’t they? http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/08/23/trans-charity-label-drag-fun-run-for-hospice-a-hate-crime/

    • Janetwo Says:

      This reminds me of the post Gallus wrote equating the trannies to ghouls. Really, going after a fundraiser for kids dying of cancer? Thanks for posting this dejavublonde.

      • dejavublonde Says:

        I was almost ready to write it off as a pure attention grab but then i googled how much money this event brings in. Last year it raised (per google) over 10,000 pounds. now I suspect it’s a money grab.

      • dejavublonde Says:

        sorry for the multiple replies – I had time to read the comments (which I am barely through and are extremely interesting) and lo and behold, I was right :
        Victoria rapture
        6 hours ago
        Actually please read through the chain of events. It reeks of me being worried and naively assuming discussion in the trans community on FB wasn’t being lurked on by journos. Lesson learned! I then had arranged with the Charity to have that quiet discussion so we canb get more Trans Visibility that trans groups are on about lately, and so to have LGBT support at the event. BUT in the meantime the Mirror and Telegraph lost their minds and put a story together without consulting the protagonist. Me! Now Steph from Chrysalis is here putting in fact corrections, has written to the papers to correct and I’m here putting out the actual story.

        They’re tone deaf leeches and energy vampires. can they NOT leech onto everything? Can they just leave dying children ad grieving families alone? is NOTHING sacred to tjese scumbags?

    • RadicalGrandma Says:

      I’m so sick of hearing what these freaks have to say about fucking everything. But it’s all about them when everything is said and done. Always, always, always, damn their narcissistic assholery.

      And these male trans think they’re more “womanly” than women and know what we approve and don’t approve?

      Surprised they didn’t allow it to go ahead so they could proselytize the parents of the poor kids and question the kids.

    • dejavublonde Says:

      these people are straight up unhinged. In the comments section one is running around denying that it was reported as a hate crime. He o-so innocently just called the police to ask if his so helpless woman-self should be offended (because everyone knows a woman needs a big stong man to tell her her opinions) but never ever meant anything bad about it. And the press got ahold of the story without fact checking AND coincidentally they will now be asking for a large monetary compensation because of the bad press (I called that one).

      That sounds like the unhinged part but the real unhinged part is if you go to the Facebook page the very same person is positively prancing around gloating how he reported it as a hate crime. Of SERIOUS concern to me is how he states he will go down there the day of the event and stand in their way. He shall not let them pass he proclaims. if they’re smart they’ll put a muzzle on him until they get their stories straight and take the original Facebook page down- which I have saved in case they do.

      • anywoman2 Says:

        When a grown man in a dress wants to threaten suicide and violence, just to out-victim children dying of cancer, it really becomes clear -that some of these men have a narcissistic disorder, and may be a danger to children.

    • kesher Says:

      Of course it’s a late-transitioning (at 59, according to what I found), obviously male transbian. Those guys are the humorless scolds of the trans movement, which really figures since you know, as men, they dictated to the rest of us what we’re allowed to find offensive (i.e. nothing that comes out of their mouths).

  31. Lint Says:

    I think this maybe one of the most disturbing things I have ever read on GT. I’m at a total loss for words on this one.

  32. GallusMag Says:

    WOW. Dirt has posted part one of an explosive investigation into this case. Very very disturbing. Read it here:
    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2015/08/ftm-top-surgery-for-sky-tragic-story-in.html

    • RadicalGrandma Says:

      I hope child welfare gets involved in this. It does sound as though a drug addict has gotten the attention of the trans people by using her daughter as a shill for them. This drug addict needs help, but not the kind she’s being offered. This is a terrible lapse of ethics by “professionals” like Olson-Kennedy and the others involved there.

      Desperate drug addicts will stoop to anything to get their drugs. Even using their children and selling them for a “cause” if not selling their entire beings.

    • Biscuit Says:

      Oh my God. It sounds to me like they’ve already caused Sky (Melissa) to develop blood clots and a nearly life-ending pulmonary embolism by giving her testosterone. And they want to continue the testosterone “therapy…”?

      I think social services needs to get involved here.

  33. Larichus Says:

    From the outside looking in, it certainly has some of the contours of Munchausen by proxy. Thoughts … ?

  34. Susan Nunes Says:

    Not Dead Yet and other disability rights groups should be notified of this. I really think the authorities should get involved.

  35. atranswidow Says:

    Having read the account here, and Dirt’s further investigations, it appears to be clearly a case of a mother with Munchausen’s by proxy and a manipulative pair of ”care-givers” (irony intended), who have no further interest than the pushing of their personal trans-agenda, coming together. Both sides blind to the fact that they were being used by the other, or maybe aware and deliberately ignoring the fact in order to get what they want. In the middle of all of this a young woman with disabilities is being used and abused by the very people whom she looks to have her best interests at heart.

    This needs a disability rights investigation and wider publicity, although I worry tremendously for Sky/Mellisa, no matter what happens.

    Just one thing that keeps occurring to me; where is the father in all of this?

  36. dejavublonde Says:

    part two is up http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/
    I am really glad they are watching here.

  37. Siobhan Says:

    This is horrifying. It sounds like the PE caused serious damage to this young woman’s organs and her recovery is going very slowly. The fact that the mom is chirpily assuring her “followers” that she will resume T as soon as possible is terrifying, as is her continued quest for a double mastectomy. In discussing the T, she says that “Sky will not” give it to herself so the mom must do it. So mom has been administering medically unnecessary and medically contraindicated drugs which caused a life-threatening pulmonary embolism. There are some very troublesome issues of consent here.

    • kesher Says:

      What’s going to happen when mom is no longer around to administer testosterone, especially if this is taken to its logical conclusion, and Melissa is subject to a hysterectomy?

      Two things seem like a bare necessity to follow through with transitioning:
      The patient being capable of informed consent, which doesn’t seem to be the case here since the young woman apparently can’t even articulate, on her own, her reasons for wanting to transition; her mother’s doing all the talking.
      The patient being able to self-administer medication.

      • prozac Says:

        It is very sad, but after reading the above links it would be a miracle if she were to outlive her mother. People with downs have longer life expectancies than they used to, but still considerably lower than most, and this person appears to have a lot of health issues on top of her disability. Someone told me people with downs age at about twice the rate a typical person would, and being a female on testosterone seems to cut your lifespan by about twenty years. This is just horribly sad and wrong.

    • Bea Says:

      Oh Jesus f*cking Christ, a pulmonary embolism??

  38. Loup-loup garou Says:

    According to the screencaps on Dirt’s blog, Sky was born in 1992. That makes her 23 years old — not a child, but a dependent adult whose disability may (probably does) prevent her from being able to make decisions on her own behalf.

    So the agency that would need to get involved would be Adult Protective Services.

    Her being 23 doesn’t make any of this less horrifying.

    • GallusMag Says:

      The mother states in the screencaps on Dirt’s blog that Sky is under five foot tall and “looks twelve” but is in her early twenties, and mom hopes that male pattern facial hair will make her look more like an adult.


  39. @Bisquit,

    “Oh my God. It sounds to me like they’ve already caused Sky (Melissa) to develop blood clots and a nearly life-ending pulmonary embolism by giving her testosterone. And they want to continue the testosterone “therapy…”?

    I think social services needs to get involved here.”

    Yes, social services needs to get involved.

    According to one of the mother’s screencapped comments at Dirt’s blog, Melissa, “Sky”, had two years of chemotherapy for leukemia when she was younger.

    Why on earth would they give this girl testosterone?

    In one screen capped rant, the mother complains that she can’t leave her daughter Sky alone. She says, “Under a lot of scrutiny lately for leaving my boy places on his own…….he still looks and acts like he is 12 years old. ….Can’t a guy (meaning her daughter) eat lunch and watch a Seahawks game at Red Robin without his mom”……..they call the police because the mom hasn’t returned to pick him up…”

    My heart aches for what Melissa has gone through. This poor young woman has no idea what is going on.

  40. anon male Says:

    http://www.slate .com/articles/podcasts/gist/2015/08/the_gist_analogy_emergency_and_dr_robert_garofalo_on_trans_kids.html

    I haven’t listened to the podcast (consistent, persistent, and insistent!) yet; I’ll try to skim it later, but posting the broken link now so anyone searching this topic later can find it.


  41. My post below is based on online comments from Melissa’s (Sky’s) mother. Dirt did an excellent job of digging up the online comments made by the mother. Kudos! If they are true, it’s deeply disturbing. The more this develops, the more outraged and saddened I become. Apparently, the mother and Melissa are from Washington State. At least, this is the mailing address from the online “top surgery” pitch.

    http://dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com/2015/08/ftm-top-surgery-for-sky-tragic-story-in.html#comment-form

    This was dated March 21, 2014….

    “I feel like shouting from the rooftops..SKY IS SOON TO START T AT LAST!”

    (states that they will start out with topical gel and then go to injections)

    July 6th (not sure if it’s 2104 or 2015)

    Melissa (Sky) is in the Intensive Care Unit with a pulmonary embolism and.given blood thinners.

    There are currently lawsuits over Androgel and blood clots as well as testosterone therapy and heart disease, etc. With Androgel, there is also the possibility of transference, but this is a different subject. All this information is out there.

    Pumping otherwise healthy older men with testosterone might make them feel younger, but it can cause heart disease, etc. Over 1,000 lawsuits filed by men who say testosterone drugs caused their cardiovascular problems are pending in federal court. How this all relates to FTMs (females who take enough testosterone to grow a beard) is largely unknown. FTMs are basically lab rats of sorts.

    https://www.schmidtlaw.com/androgel-blood-clot-lawsuit/
    http://www.drugwatch.com/testosterone/lawsuit/

    @loup loup, “According to the screencaps on Dirt’s blog, Sky was born in 1992. That makes her 23 years old — not a child, but a dependent adult whose disability may (probably does) prevent her from being able to make decisions on her own behalf. Melissa is 23 years old.”

    Adult protective services would be the route to go. Also, I could totally see a private attorney making hella $$ off this. Melissa could have died in the ICU with a pulmonary embolism, and she might have to take blood thinners for a long time. According to one online post from the mother, Melissa was treated with chemotherapy for leukemia when she was younger. Down Syndrome individuals often have a whole host of health issues to deal with. In one post the mother says her daughter has low thyroid, and states she is worried about her daughter’s immune system because she was on chemotherapy for 2 years for leukemia. Why on earth would the mother be so excited, even giddy, about giving her daughter testosterone? “I feel like shouting from the rooftops..SKY IS SOON TO START T AT LAST!” The poor girl ends up in the ICU.

    This poor young woman with Down Syndrome could have died in the ICU. She has no idea what is going on. This is out right abuse of a person who lacks the ability to make informed decisions.

    In addition to lower intelligence, the inability to grasp abstract concepts, and being easily manipulated, there are often medical conditions associated with Down Syndrome.

    Children with Down syndrome can have a variety of complications, some of which become more prominent as they get older, such as:

    •Heart defects. About half the children with Down syndrome are born with some type of heart defect. These heart problems can be life-threatening and may require surgery in early infancy.
    •Leukemia. Young children with Down syndrome have an increased risk of leukemia.
    •Infectious diseases. Because of abnormalities in their immune systems, those with Down syndrome are much more at risk of infectious diseases, such as pneumonia.
    •Dementia. People with Down syndrome have a greatly increased risk of dementia — signs and symptoms may begin around age 50. Those who have dementia also have a higher rate of seizures. Having Down syndrome also increases the risk of developing Alzheimer’s disease.
    •Sleep apnea. Because of soft tissue and skeletal changes that lead to the obstruction of their airways, children and adults with Down syndrome are at greater risk of obstructive sleep apnea.
    •Obesity. People with Down syndrome have a greater tendency to be obese compared with the general population.
    •Other problems. Down syndrome may also be associated with other health conditions, including gastrointestinal blockage, thyroid problems, early menopause, seizures, ear infections, hearing loss, skin problems such as psoriasis, skeletal problems and poor vision.

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/down-syndrome/basics/complications/con-20020948

    These are my questions.

    (1.) What is the name of the physician who prescribed testosterone gel for a young woman with Down Syndrome and a history of leukemia and other health issues?
    (2.) What specifically did Melissa do to convince the physician that she believes she is a “boy”? Isn’t it possible that the mother was coaching the girl?
    (3.) Is Melissa under guardianship? If so, who is the guardian? I’m assuming it’s the mother.
    (4.) If she is not under guardianship, how can a young woman with Down Syndrome make informed decisions regarding her health? This is an “Informed Consent” form for testosterone. It basically covers the ass of doctors in case there are side effects. How is a woman with Down Syndrome supposed to understand all the side effects of testosterone?

    http://tghealth-critiques.tripod.com/consen2.htm

    Who wants to call Adult Protective Services? Something needs to be done.

  42. GallusMag Says:

    I want to know who the prescribing physician is, and who the mental health worker is who are enabling these “treatments”. I know the surgeon is Dr. Crane, because Mary T. identified him as the surgeon on the fundraiser page when 4th Wave Now first posted the link. Mary T. has since set her Facebook to private but she definitely identified Dr. Crane as the surgeon when I first saw the link. Aydin Olson-Kennedy asked who is the surgeon and Mary T answered “Dr. Crane”.

  43. Jayce Says:

    Aydin is a valuable resource and a hero to many. I cannot believe the amount of misgenderibg that occurs in this article. It’s sickening.


  44. […] “Gatekeeping”–the imposition of any restrictions on obtaining transition services–is a dirty word to trans activists, and increasingly, compliant gender specialists. “Informed consent” (essentially, giving the patient whatever they ask for, based strictly on self identification) is the new norm. And this push for an end to gatekeeping extends to children and people with disabilities; the hot term is personal  “agency,” and trans activists have little patience for the idea that perhaps not all people have equal capacity to make sound decisions. To take but one recent example, the mother of a young woman with Down Syndrome created a fundraising website, which, while mentioning that her daughter had been hospitalized in an intensive care unit, insisted that she still needed “top surgery.” A prominent Los Angeles gender therapist, who happens to be FTM, helped with fundraising for the double mastectomy on a public post on Facebook, which as of this writing is still a live link, despite some scathing coverage in the gender critical blogosphere. […]

  45. Another trans guy Says:

    Since when do we have pity parties for other trans folks that is if he is even trans. Can he talk? If so why dont he make a video clearly stating this is what he actually wants. Secoundly no one needs to donate to this cause nor any other trans peoples gofund me accts. They need to not be lazy go get a job and pay for it on there own like every other trans person.

  46. transk8ers Says:

    Craziness, the kid just needs to if he really is trans get a job like every other person save up his money and pay for his surgery on his own. No pity party needed dont donate not just to sky but to any trans person. If your breathing your clearly capable of doing something to earn money and pay for it like every other trans person has to.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Don’t post the same comment under two different names. Stick to one name to comment on this blog. Thanks.

      • transk8ers Says:

        Sry your right my computer was messed up. I was actually trying to be somewhat anonymous and didnt realize that the first comment was already posted. Honestly i used to be a patient of Jo Olson. I do believe shes doing her best to care for these young kids an i do know shes a good person. But to read some of the stuff i read its kinda frustrating. I have different opinions these days on the actual proper care. As far as Sky goes even if he is transgender its still not appropriate to put such a delicate soul on hormone treatment or even think about surgery with so many health issues. I know that when i tried to first get on hormone therapy i was refused and denied just on basis of they didnt know if it would cause mood swings. Which compared to a case like this is ridiculous. This adult sky clearly has way more issues we should be concerned with. And i cant comprehend why its so important to donate to anyone looking for surgery. If its not affordable they need to look into there insurance since insurance so called covers these operations. Just like every other trans person.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Ok. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Also interested in hearing more about your experience and how your thoughts have developed over time, if you want to share that at some point.

      • transk8ers Says:

        Actually i would love too. Thanks for asking. I wont go into full detail but lets just say in pure honesty that i wasnt raised in your typically family situation i once never knew what gay or trans or anything meant. Till i had a bi sexual roommate. I felt different sure as a girl wasnt your typical girly girl. But id never imagined id end up to be trans one day influences definitly have a bit of an effect on teenagers. I am still currently in the process of really going back into the past and rediscovering the truth of what happened to me i do belive at one point i began to belive in many lies about myself that became who i am. Long story short as a teenager and even young adult i thought i knew it all like every young dumb teenager there wasnt anything anyone could tell me unless i agreed with what it was they were saying. I transitioned as in hormone therapy at age 18. Stayed on and off for quite some time. As i got older things about life became more clearer to me. I think around age 22-23 it was like i was a whole new person mentally as if we went back to the basics of pysch 101 no needed medical degree youll learn that human brains are not fully developed until about the age of 22-23. Hince why i really felt as if life was completly different. I started questioning many things why didnt i listen to my dad he was probably right blah blah blah. I actually went back and forth with my gender identity for a couple years. But not properly taking the time to really discover the truths about myself i still very well felt trans since it was such an ingrained lie and honestly i would also have to say that having gone through years of hormones name change etc i figured i was stuck with that decision and i couldnt go back. Just recently after months of mental touture battling different thoughts about well i want to try being a girl again but what will my friends say the people i care about will they lash out on me. I had experinced losing friendships last time i tried detransitioning. But it led me to a very dark place where it was either have some confidence and try finding piece and just be real for once with my current friends and if they dont like it than i guess they never cared about me to begin with. Or who knows honestly it felt like life and death for me. I still currently live as luke most of my life and surroundings. But i live by my birth name and gender in other areas of my life. I have had this topic on my mind so much recently because are we really treating these children right are they even capable of making such decisions as a teenager or even young adult. All they know is whats in the media the trends going around all the major influence on these topics. But what will happen to some of them when there outside of there little box and they want to experince the world find a partner. Interact with coworkers or the public. I feel like gender identity is just part of life but we put way to much focus on that part of ourselves theres way more to life whether were a girl or boy. Some will realize when there older oh wow no one ever told me id face these kinds of issues in the world or this would be so uncomfortable or hard to do. I do belive some people are legitimatly trans sure but some its just become a trend or something cool that everyone seems to be doing. Were focused on all the kids who are trans and getting them care and not to thoughful about the 1-2 that arnt but are given the care. And honestly i think now with it being way to accessible with so much media like its something cool there will be higher rates of kids who will grow up and realize they were wrong. We wont know now when there teenagers because just remember teenagers are full of raging emotional hormones thinking they know everything about life. What happens when there mommies and daddies tell them its time to fly on your own. I dont know just things i think about.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Wow. Okay- I posted your comment here on the front page so people will see it.
        https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/former-transgender-teen-patient-of-lachs-dr-johanna-olson-shares-her-thoughts/

        It doesn’t sound like you have been getting much support from other women in the same boat. Are you aware that there are a ton of others? They keep a low profile online but I’m certain the women here can steer you in the right direction:
        http://twentythreetimes.tumblr.com/detransition_support_forum
        http://redressalert.tumblr.com/

        Please get some support- you are NOT ALONE, and these women aren’t pushing any agenda or anything. It’s peer support only. Where no one will give you shit for considering different angles or taking whichever path.

      • transk8ers Says:

        Thanks for that and the link itll be very helpful. I dont have a ton of support but luckily my church is supporting me. And lets just say that my church hasnt forced any of this on me. But this was part of my process of discovering the truth. Or learning within that the truth is hidden in me and needs to be discovered. Part of growing up and realizing these things is learning or more so experincing the real world for what it truly is. That is for the most part everyones out for there own gain and interests. Sure some people care but some who cared well lets just say theres an motive behind it. I am excited about really digging deep to find out where and how i was decived which i already know is true. How i came to really feel like i was trans. I wont lie i really felt i was trans but when i clearly look on my past i continually switched back and forth. Theres clearly something much deeper that had to of happened. And i know its true for people who will never admit it or ever try or attempt to figure out that truth. The cool thing about being in a normal society setting like church is i finally will get the support and female woman role models i clearly never had in my life who can properly exhibt what i was missing. I remember when i first went to church they gave me a video of a man who tried to be a woman and is a activist in the christian community. Proper realtionships with parental figures in childhood is essential to the way a child will grow up. Oh man i dont want to go on and on. But i sure do want to keep the public informed about the journey and my past for people to realize theres truly more to this transgender phenomenon than what we have been hearing. Anyways thanks again

      • GallusMag Says:

        Okay, good luck.

        BTW no one is “truly transgender”, so you’re not unique in that regard. Transitioning can serve as a quasi solution for some people, at least for a while, but it is an imperfect coping mechanism that requires constant, obsessive maintenance that eventually exhausts itself. Just like a cult. Most people, even the truest believers, eventually leave cults (or self-destruct). The cognitive dissonance cannot be upheld indefinitely, and even the most fervent get bored with it over time, or implode.

        One thing you might want to think about though is that when you “wake up” from a cultic belief system (social scientists call this “snapping”- it’s the same process in reverse that one experienced in the “aha!” moment that first led them into the conversion process) there is a period of ambiguity and confusion. Which makes sense. Like you said: “Why did I so strongly believe that?” “What happened to me?” There’s a feeling of rootlessness (social scientists call this “floating”). Which also makes sense. But what can happen next is that the person can simply latch onto another, different, alternate cultic belief system which provides all the NEW answers. You might want to look out for that. Because it just repeats the exact same process that you’ve just escaped from.

        It might be uncomfortable, but sometimes it’s best to just let things ride, and not look for a new “system”. Or all the answers. Perhaps focus on concrete things. Getting a library card. Rotating your tires. Advancing your career. Planning that trip you always wanted to take. Anyone abandoning a previously felt “true identity” is at risk of simply adopting another. It’s something to look out for, unless you want to keep jumping from one fruitless belief/identity “system” to another throughout life, ignoring your true nature, which, like everyone else, contains ambiguity, subtlety, and yes, even uncertainty. You probably don’t need to be reminded of that but I just thought I’d mention it.

        Specifically to the genderism, it’s important to remember that there is a third way. You can be a non-traditional or non-conforming woman. You don’t need to “be like everyone else”. You don’t need to perform stereotypical “womanhood”. You don’t need to step and fetch for men. You don’t need to play a role. You don’t need to think about your wardrobe. You don’t need to shave, or paint your face. Just do you. Gender is wrong. Gender is harmful to women and girls. You don’t need to abide by it. You can reject it. You can accept yourself and your personality and the things you like that feel natural to you. You deserve that.

        Our great-grandmothers weren’t allowed to have bank accounts, or vote. They got arrested if they wore pants. Fuck the system. Fuck the Cis-stem.😉

  47. transk8ers Says:

    This is Luke the former trans teen who was a patient of Jo Olson. I have to be 100% honest with everyone reading this. Its going to make me look stupid and i really do not care. First off Jo Olson and CHLA and trans care in general is benefical. I know for a fact Jo Olson is the most amazing human being i have ever meant part of whats made me say the things i said. Jo Olson was the only human in my life who seemed to understand me or even care about me and most the time it had nothing to even do with anything trans related. Shes been more of a mentor to me more of a therapist or pyschatrist or you can just say someone who went extremly out of there way to talk to a kid who was miserable and had quite a lot of baggage and issues. Recently an event took place in my life where a friend involved her into some of our personal drama which somewhat destroyed such a close realtionship between us i felt she really belived the things this person said about me. I felt rejected and hurt by her more so that i was extremly clingy to her and felt i lost the only person in my life left. Sure i may be a bit confused. Not confused because i am not trans but more so because being a trans person is such a difficult life. Everything seems so much harder. Part of my anger is honestly because i dont really want to detransition but what else do i have left in life. My transition is so stagnet and deatly frustrating i continually see all these kids with supportive parents kids getting hormones even surgery it pisses me off because i am really just envious of them all. I feel like its so unfair. I want to be a man i want my breast gone but it seems so impossible. I have gone to church sure you wonder about things when you grow up. But more of well there seems to be absolutly nothing left in this trans life of mine. I have yet to ever once in my life even have a boyfriend or girlfriend. My parents refuse to ever support me and never will. My church says gender isnt the issue but that thats not gods best for me. Where to i turn with so much hate and non acceptance when i cant even fucking take a shower because i have gone 3 years without cutting and i cant stand to see myself naked anymore that i am not sure i can shower without cutting. No one should actually ever regret transition we did it for a reason. If it didnt work out its because you changed your mind for other reasons you clearly felt that way at one point and all people are trying to do is support you. Even if you decide to detransition thats ok its not an easy road to stay trans. But remember the most important question ever asked in your transition if you could choose to be a man or woman at birth not even being trans. What would that answer derp down honestly be. I know derp down always in my heart whether i were to be a woman and get married and have children id always whod have still chosen to be a man at birth. Theres no easy way out for any of us. Thats why some have committed suicide i am sure these are some of the thoughts running through kids minds. And honestly before ever writting the original article what i was online doing before that was i was on a site called lost all hope the only site that gives you multiple suicide methods directions and dosent even redirect you to getting help i was actually looking into drop hanging myself. Instead i wrote a twisted article out of anger cuz i really wanted to get support from jo about feeling suicidal but didnt have the courage to tell her yet again i wanted to kill myself. And honestly it will be a miracle if i can go longer than 6 months without feeling like killing myself. I hope who ever moderates these post even though this isnt exactly a point thats on your side will be so kind to approve this comment and let the real truth be known. For even just the sake of my life at this momment. Lets just let each other do what it is we want to do with our lifes. Cuz its really no one elses buisness

    • GallusMag Says:

      Of course I’ll approve your comments Luke but as I mentioned I don’t think anyone will see them on this old post. That is why I moved them to the front page. If you want to share your thoughts and actually have people read them I’d suggest you do so there. Your call.

      AGAIN, here is the link to where people are discussing your comments: https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/01/11/former-transgender-teen-patient-of-lachs-dr-johanna-olson-shares-her-thoughts/

      • GallusMag Says:

        Also, it might be helpful to you to speak to other women who are dealing with the same thing instead of killing yourself. I gave you two links where you can get support from others, but it’s your life. Putting all your eggs in one basket: your medical provider- doesn’t seem to be working well for you though.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Lastly, please insert paragraph breaks in your comments. People can’t easily read a wall of text. It’s just common courtesy. Thanks.

    • Em Says:

      Let me get this straight. You have always been miserable, you want to be someone and something else, and you’re currently suicidal. For some reason, you were sent to a therapist who specializes in encouraging people to assume new gender identities.

      It’s obvious that you’re suffering, and it’s not surprising that you believed you’d find relief in the the new self that Olson seemed to be offering you. But that’s not the sort of relief that will help you or anyone else. I hope that you can find a real solution.


  48. […] Although it is not explicitly stated, it’s likely that notorious Dr. Johanna Olson has been shooting her up with testosterone — Samantha is shown shaving her chin. Samantha’s “therapist,” the fake-male “husband” of Johanna Olson, is a stupid woman called Aydin Kennedy-Olson. […]

  49. Pete Cowell Says:

    I followed Aydin’s videos years ago out of curiosity and I don’t think he/she should be counselling anybody as always seemed confused. When he had a lesbian girlfriend he made videos about how he didn’t really feel male and was happy being in-between, as if he was still acting like a lesbian to make his girlfriend happy. I also think he likes the attention and controversy.

  50. Rosa Says:

    I am a mother of a 18 year old young man with Down syndrome. When he was as young as 4 years old he loved hats, wigs and barbie dolls. Till this day he loves to dress up. Often, I find my dresses in his closet. He says he is a girl and loves dresses high heels etc. When he was 12 years old he put his sisters communion dress on and was running down the street. My husband does not like when my son dresses up and plays around the house. I said this is who he is and let him be. We go shopping for cloths he looks around too and I find him in the dressing room trying dresses on. Some of the store clerks know him for this. They are great with him and treat him with respect. People in our lives have made a comment that they think he is transgender. Sometimes I think … is he still in that developmental stage of playing both roles in which it is natural for kids in an early developmental age to play. OR is he really a woman in a mans body. He has been through open heart surgery, hip surgery, he has been through alot. I would only want him to go through any more surgeries only if it was necessary, as he already has been through aot. He is funny, charming, loves theatre. We make sure he has all the opportunities for a good education, friends and participates in the community, bowling, movies, cooking classes, etc. He has been excepted into college for a research special needs program. We love him and I support him in who he is.. He has a female friend who also has DS and once in a while they see each other I can say that they love each other. I also love her as much as she loves him. I take a day at a time for now.

    • GallusMag Says:

      It sounds like you’re doing a good job letting him enjoy playing dress-up and not making a big deal out of it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

  51. Mark Lewis Says:

    No no no.


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