Channel 4: Dr. Julia Long on the #TransInquiry Report

January 14, 2016

157 Responses to “Channel 4: Dr. Julia Long on the #TransInquiry Report”

  1. stchauvinism Says:

    Would Jack want to stay at men’s homeless shelter with her son? I imagine not, but if asked that question I’m sure she’d say she wouldn’t mind.

    • morag99 Says:

      If you asked her that question, she’d ask YOU what you mean by a “men’s” shelter, and who gets to decide who is and isn’t “a man” (answer: only genderists understand these things now).

      In fact, she might even ask you what you mean by “shelter” since the material world is such a squishy, misty, borderless, ever-so-hard thing to define.

  2. stchauvinism Says:

    Reblogged this on Stop Trans Chauvinism.

  3. morag99 Says:

    I’ll never get over this “who are YOU to say who’s a man or a woman, huh? huh?” followed up by the transgenderist credo, “transwomen ARE women, so just shut up your stupid face, you meanie cissy!”

    I mean, what else can one do but smile that particular smile we reserve for children who are making no sense, because they are having a tantrum?

    Jacky is wacky; or, to put it more charitably, Ms. Monroe is in the grip of a cult. Dr. Julia Long, on the other hand, was rational, graceful, and in control of her own intellect.

    • GallusMag Says:

      I think when the trans repeat “transwomen are women” over and over they should click their heels together three times. It might help! #Dorothy

      • morag99 Says:

        Also: “Pay no attention to that MAN behind the curtain!”

      • GallusMag Says:

        Not ALL men! click click click TransWomen ARE women! click click click Wrong Side Of History! click click click

      • morag99 Says:

        “Toto is terfy.”

        THAT is adorable. Sweet little Toto, a nasty TERF! Where’s Peachyoghurt — er, I mean “Ashley”?

      • OldPolarBear Says:

        “Toto is terfy” would go great on a t-shirt.

      • Jessica Says:

        A trans loving feminist told me this the other day:

        “50% of trans people are women and girls”

        (She was arguing with me about how TW should have access to women’s shelters etc)

        Think about her quote. About what it really means.

        “Women and girls” would have to be transwomen, because ftm would identify as TM.

        Which means that she doesn’t actually truly believe that biological sex is nothing more than a social construct.

  4. GallusMag Says:

    I am MADLY in love with Dr. Julia Long. MADLY I SAY. Do make a note of it, won’t you?

  5. Smits Says:

    Going to be really shallow here and note that Jack Monroe, supposed super oppressed special gender minority, looks like a straight girl trying to be edgy, whereas evil cis terf harridan Dr Julia Long is actually seriously gender non-conforming in a way that gets women murdered.

    Maybe this new law will allow British bigots to get psychic powers, in order to only harass people for their feelz and not how they actually look and operate in society?

    (Also please sign me up for the Dr Julia Long fanclub. Where can I get a poster of her to hang on my wall?)

  6. Magdalena Z. Says:

    So wait, does Jack identify as a man? I wonder if she would actually want to go to a male homeless shelter and bed down next to a room full of males when she obviously looks like a woman? I don’t understand people like this, at all. Gallus, I love Dr. Julia too, she is fantastic.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Jack is a lesbian femme who identifies as “non-binary” which means she believes in “psychological sex” and believes she is psychologically intersex.

      • Bev Jo Says:

        Exactly. Most of these women who think they are “non-binary” are so Fem. And so fussy with their appearance, as are the male trannies.

        Some day, the myth about Butches disappearing into the trans cult might actually end if anyone notices who has been fighting the cult for most of our lives, naming trannie crimes against women, and working for women only space.

      • liberalsareinsane Says:

        I believe she is a complete fucking attention seeking bore. A year from now she’ll be “identifying” as a unicorn.

      • M. Says:

        Hi there,
        Loved the interview; Dr. Long was amazing! I’ve seen this before that Jack identifies as a lesbian femme. As one myself, I’m curious about this–is that something printed somewhere I can have a read or on an interview? Anyway, thanks if you can but no worries if it’s a hassle. Have a great week!

      • GallusMag Says:

        You too! Rock on!

        ETA: Ugh. Another man. You pigs are relentless. Fuck you sir.

  7. Since it impacts 50% of the population, why weren’t women allowed to speak at the Trans Inquiry?

    • GallusMag Says:

      Because Maria Miller, the homophobic Conservative MP heading the Women and Equalities Inquiry decided that expanding men’s rights and eliminating lesbian rights was the most politically expedient thing she could do?

      • GallusMag Says:

        “Parliament’s Independent Standards Commissioner last week found that Mrs Miller had broken Commons rules and should repay £45,000 in expenses she claimed on a London house she later sold for a £1.2 million profit.”

        “Reacting to news of the minister’s resignation, John Mann, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, who instigated the initial complaint against Miller, told BBC Radio Four’s Today programme: “My reaction is: about time too. Where’s the Prime Minister been for the five days not sacking Maria Miller?
        “There are very few people outside the club of the House of Commons who believe that MPs should still be regulating themselves. The rest of the country has very firm views on that, and I share that view,” Mr Mann told Radio 4’s Today programme.
        “Maria Miller should have resigned immediately and when she didn’t, David Cameron should have shown a bit of leadership and sacked her.”
        The MP said the system of MPs having a role in ruling on MPs’ expenses should be scrapped.
        “I think the system is dead and buried. I asked the government yesterday to change this but they refused to do so. There should be no more self-regulation of MPs by MPs.
        “The complaint (about Maria Miller) was raised by local people. She was flipping her home and I still see this as a fundamental problem.
        “I didn’t anticipate that she would first try to intimidate a national newspaper and, even worse, attempted to intimidate the independent commissioner. She felt that she could somehow use MPs to get round the commissioner.
        “That kind of behaviour is not acceptable in a democracy. Her resignation should have been immediate.
        “There’s a moral in the story. If you are caught doing something wrong, not least if you are one of the elected leaders, the country expects to see some contrition and humility and there was none.
        “I think the cynical truth is this issue was hurting the Conservative Party on the doorstep, and of course there is an election coming up. She just had to go. Privately she was told her position was no longer tenable and she had to go.
        “Now she’s gone to save the Prime Minister any further embarrassment.”

      • GallusMag Says:

        The former chairman of the Committee on Standards in Public Life, Sir Alistair Graham, has described Maria Miller’s attempts to frustrate the commissioner’s inquiry into her expenses claims as “pretty shocking”.

        Graham said her case showed that the disciplinary procedures for MPs should be reformed.

        His comments came after emails disclosed that the culture secretary had threatened parliament’s independent standards commissioner, Kathryn Hudson, in an attempt to block the “irrational and perverse” investigation into her expenses claims.

        In a sign of Miller’s attempts to prevent an investigation into her claims for interest payments on her mortgage, she told Hudson that the commissioner would be acting in a way that was “unwarranted, unfair and contrary to all standards of due process and legality”.

        Miller, who was ordered on Thursday to apologise for her conduct towards Hudson and to repay £5,800, even threatened to refer the watchdog to the “supervisory jurisdiction” of the Commons standards committee.

        Graham told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme: “The degree of lack of co-operation or the attempt to divert the commissioner from addressing the issues concerned seems fairly exceptional.

        “I think particularly for a senior cabinet minister, who you expect to show a leadership role in co-operating with whatever expenses system is around, it is pretty shocking.

        “I think the public will be very shocked that the committee did overturn one of the key recommendations about how much should be repaid back, when there is a real possibility that the minister made a capital gain with the help of public funds.”

      • GallusMag Says:

        Shortly after entering the Commons as a Conservative MP in 2005, Maria Miller began claiming expenses against her double-fronted Victorian terrace in Wimbledon, south-west London.
        Over the next four years, she billed taxpayers for £90,718 worth of expenses, just £115 less than the maximum allowed. The bulk of the money was for mortgage interest payments.
        In December 2012, The Telegraph revealed that her parents had been living at her home for the entire period she had been claiming expenses, in an apparent breach of Parliamentary rules.
        After an official complaint the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner began a formal investigation.

        What did the investigation find?
        Over the next 14 months Mrs Miller subjected Kathryn Hudson, the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner with a series of aggressive letters containing thinly-veiled threats.

      • kres Says:

        Maria Miller is well known around Basingstoke for her “dodgy dealings”, shame she got voted back in. And to have this position?

    • sarineal Says:

      The only person that got heated was Jack Monroe, who basically panicked when Julia Long calmly stated the risk to women of this sort of policy making and descended into accusation “who are you to say…” and misrepresentation “you are claiming transwomen are all rapists”. The best part is that Julia Long neatly side-stepped that and continued to make her point. Jack Monroe was completely outclassed there.

  8. silverside Says:

    Gallus, I think your totally on to something regarding the definition of “shelter.” You know, maybe HUD could expand the definition of “shelter” to mean the streets or under a bridge. Voila! No more homelessness in the US! No more pesky feminists questioning crazy dudes wanting to crash DV shelters! Because we won’t have shelters anymore! We won’t have binary definitions of housing to oppress us any further! Shelter is anything and anywhere you want it to be!

    • GallusMag Says:

      lolol you mean we can liberate the homeless by smashing the sheltered/on the streets binary????

      • kesher Says:

        We joke, but there are more radical homelessness advocates who claim that the homeless have a universal right to live on the street regardless if good quality shelter is made available to them. This redefinition of shelter would be right up their alley. I’ve also generally only run into these people in pomo nightmares such as San Francisco.

      • Zemskull Says:

        Oddly enough, there are those who want to end use of the “homeless” word and the perception that homelessness is best avoided. They prefer to describe the homeless as “urban outdoorsmen.” I’m not kidding.

    • morag99 Says:

      Also, using shelter and clothing to maintain a safe body temperature to avoid both hyper- and hypothermia in extreme weather is literally biological essentialism. That’s, like, really bad. Because it reduces people to nothing but numbers on a thermometer.

  9. Dorothy Says:

    Was the “lesbian” woman who Ms. Monroe was raped by actually a trans lesbian woman (man)? She doesn’t clarify that. She didn’t say “cis” lesbian.

    • Bev Jo Says:

      Oh that is an excellent point. Certainly is more likely. Trannie supporters always say women rape/kill too. Like one percent compared to men? Of course they are changing the statistics as Gallus Mag has documented for us.

  10. Anon Says:

    I feel really quite distressed at my comments and others’ comments on this topic on the Guardian newspaper deleted. And when I commented that women’s voices were being silenced, they deleted that too! It gave me a cold shudder inside. I was all on board with trans until a few months ago but all this is going too far and I feel quite anxious about wherever it is leading.

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Oh, honey. You’re new to this? I don’t mean to sound condescending, really I don’t, but yeah, the Guardian. It’s the worst. It’s a “newspaper” that fears opposing viewpoints far more than any other I’ve seen. It is simply warm, quivering Jello, nothing more. Even when I happen to agree with what they’re saying, I stopped being able to take it seriously a long time ago because of this.

      In fact, the Guardian was one of the first news sources that started to make me realize that I could no longer trust left-leaning media to offer a balanced report on things, particularly when it came to women’s issues. (Back in the day, lefty sources were better at this than more conventional media.) But now, lefty resources are just as bad as any rabid right-wing publication out there, in terms of not allowing dissenting thought. The Guardian in particular lives up to its name; it seems to think its readers need to be protected from thoughts and ideas that they may not agree with, but it doesn’t realize that discourse is how progress is made. Fuck that paternal bullshit, and fuck the Guardian. My mind don’t need no fucking “Guardian.”

    • stchauvinism Says:

      Yeah, go get a lawyer, there has to be a law against women finding Julia Long more compelling than you.

    • endthewoo Says:

      Monroe has been on twitter comparing Dr Long to Nazis and white supremacists and falsely acusing Dr Long of saying she (Jack) was a rapist. And the hypocrite and her minions are now trying to whine that she (Monroe) is the one being libelled or defamed ??? It’s disgraceful.

      • red Says:

        Thanks Julia. You’re a class act. Facts, and integrity.

        I had a look at Ms. Jack’s recipes. I did have to fight my way through a whack of selfies but finally arrived to see absolutely nothing original in the chef department.

        She did helpfully advise people living in poverty they could down load her how-to-eat on the cheap cookbook with their IPod/Pads.


      • GallusMag Says:

        LOLOLOL I don’t know a single person who has/can afford one.

        ETA – oh wait yes I do. One.

      • red Says:

        I retract part of my post about Ms. Jack. I found more of her (?) recipes. (I’m not one who thinks recipes belong to someone).

        She’s a good cook in a narrow field and has a warm and personable way of writing out a recipe.

    • charlston Says:

      Um, on the subject of Solicitors, is it forbidden to disagree with someone with whom you disagree now? So much new legislation these days re gender do’s and don’ts. I never know if what I think is legal to speak these days. Generally I tend to just double think my thoughts especially now there’s a Hate Crime Unit . Thought police will be next so what your mouths people. True story.

      • kesher Says:

        I don’t know about solicitors in the UK, but public defense attorneys in San Francisco are not allowed to do what it takes to defend their clients:

        “Samantha” Hulsey is making a name for himself escalating verbal confrontations with the mentally ill and poor denizens of San Francisco. He escalated a confrontation with a mentally ill man on Muni at the beginning of last year and got himself stabbed in the chest for it. Since the offender is mentally ill, presumably he’s incapable of defending himself against the ensuing hate crime and attempted murder charges. But Hulsey stepped in it at the end of last year, starting a violent confrontation with a man and a woman (calling them racial slurs) and cried “hate crime” when the couple tried to file charges against him.

        The couple’s defense attorney did exactly what he should have done, pointing out how much of a manly man Hulsey really is and therefore that his clients were correct to fear him, but the attorney’s inevitably going to be punished for it by the city of San Francisco. If you go to the article I linked, both of the commenters weighing in on what a bad, bad man that defense attorney is are MTTs, and one of them is Jordan Gwendolyn Davis who is becoming noteworthy as being a particularly aggrieved and violent MTT even according to trans apologists:

    • liberalsareinsane Says:

      I can only hope that “jack’ is reading this blog cuz she needs a dose of reality. This ridiculous girl is raising a child?? Jaysus. *shudders*

      Mommy Dearest book comin in about 15 yrs.

  11. lucyfirre Says:

    Julia was wonderful! Jack came across as totally out of her depth, just relied on ‘outrage’ and mumbled a lot. I hope more UK news outlets give space to feminists this is a really frightening development and it feels like there’s little we can do. Maria Miller has already called radical feminists ‘appalling’ and said that transwomen need legal protection from us.

    • GallusMag Says:

      God bless her, Jack’s brain gender seems to have taken up all the space normally set aside for cognition. Still, she did come off as unpretentious, unlike that other recent “enby” woman:

      • morag99 Says:

        Oh, that was pretty awful, wasn’t it? But I just love the arch expression on Sarah Ditum’s face! She can barely conceal her amusement.

      • GallusMag Says:


      • topdyke Says:

        From wikipedia:

        “Lester is a mezzo-soprano who specializes in castrati and travesti opera, as well as early and classical music and works by female composers. Classic FM has showcased their work and research on travesti roles, while BBC Radio 4’s Front Row has included their work with Silent Opera. They have cited Lou Reed and Tchaikovsky as amongst their earliest influences, aged 3–4.”

        Never before have I been so convinced that someone has written their own wikipedia article.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Sorry TopDyke- oops put my deleted comment in the wrong thread! Duh! lol

  12. All you have to do is let them talk, and people will see how crazy they are.

  13. Sarah Sprague Says:

    “Transwomen are not rapists: by default.” – Monroe

    Not sure how she can claim that when Dr. Long just mentioned the rapist transwoman terrorizing Toronto shelters 30 seconds prior. Just one example of many. Great video, and Dr. Long brought up salient points. Glad someone is out there fighting for out rights.

    • Jessica Says:

      Happened to me.

      A sniveling male feminist told me that MTT are “not a threat to anyone” mere minutes after I had provided a link to the article about the Toronto rapist. Apparentlty “she” doesn’t count.

    • Bev Jo Says:

      Men calling themselves “transwomen” ARE rapists by default. Their entire goal is to prevent women and Lesbians from being able to say no to them and to inject themselves into our lives and spaces against our will. Appropriating and minstrelizing female identity is rape also.

      • Relieved Says:

        *Probably not for publication.* This comment is not meant to be personal to Bev. I have PTSD from rape so it’s a pet peeve and I couldn’t let it go without saying something.


        “Appropriating and minstrelizing female identity” is annoying and invasive, but it’s not rape. It is related to rape in that it is men ignoring boundaries, but it’s not rape. If someone appropriating female identity rapes someone, then it is rape.

        Rape is rape – it is forcing someone to have sex against their will. People need to find other words to use rather than watering down rape by using it to mean “things I don’t like”.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Hon- I don’t know what “probably not for publication” means. I assumed you meant it was up to my discretion. If you want me to remove this comment let me know.

  14. Um, is “Jack Monroe” supposed to be something other than a young woman? WHAT???

  15. I’m sorry, the minute they panned over to Julia Long, I had to laugh – WHY – Julia Long is a WOMAN, and this pipsqueak CHILD with her scarf around her neck and check shirt, pretending to be a MAN??? A transman?? With an actual MAN between these two WOMEN? The optics, the OPTICS………neither woman needs to say anything. They could just sit there in silence. Audience, what do you SEE with your “lying eyes?” TWO WOMEN. Okay, I’m going to listen with the sound now. I feel embarrassed for Jack.

  16. Oh, now “Jack” is picking at the rips in her pants………..

    • red Says:

      Rips in jeans (awww) are one of the sob stories she offers to would-be funders in her cookbook shill at go fund her. This woman is a real user.

  17. shonagh Says:

    Julia is a respected academic with a good deal of experience of working in the women’s sector.

    Jack is a (barely) celebrity chef.

    I think that says something.

    • red Says:

      She can say she disagrees with Julia, she can say she doesn’t like her, but she cannot go on social media and lie lie lie about what Julia did and what Julia said in a several screens long rant fest with whatever the fuck is going on in her head that Julia Did. Not. Say. A lot of projection and obsessive behaviour going on. A lot of narcissism.

  18. Is Ms. Monroe trans? Because she’s 1000x more gender conforming than Dr. Long. In fact, I bet Dr. Long has had a ton more grief over her gender expression than Ms. Monroe.

  19. freowif Says:

    I’m not normally a commenter, but I’m so despondent I have to reach out. I love Julia Long and could watch her until the cows come home but I can’t bear to watch this video and endure yet another smugster get air time despite an inability to construct a cogent argument. I read the Equality Comm’s report, and was taken aback by the utter disregard for women, their views and their safety. Meanwhile, it hasn’t been lost on me that the most vocal supporters of the recommendations in the media are female, which I see as manipulation of the public. It’s all so fucking orchestrated!
    Normally, my response to this trans madness is to shake my head and think, “fucking arseholes “, but this latest news has affected me viscerally and has made me anxious and fearful to the extent that I think I’m going crazy. It’s like the world’s lost logic and common sense and I don’t recognise it any more.
    I’m sorry to ramble in your comments section, Gallus Mag, but I guess I need a shoulder. Take care sisters.

  20. Jesse Says:

    I’ve always suspected that there’s something not quite right about Monroe. It’s a mixture of annoyance, and guilt at the annoyance because she clearly needs pity rather than anger – wait, is she going to start legal action over this?

    Monroe has good recipes, but there are very few reasons I can think of to put her on a show about the topic rather than someone with expertise in it. Maybe all the experts think it’s insane. (Eminently possible.) Maybe she was the least objectionable representative they could find. (Eminently possible, and disturbing.)

  21. Ashland Avenue Says:

    I have to wonder if the tussled hairstyles of these FtT comes from saner folks rubbing them on the head in a consoling manner while saying, “There, there. Why don’t you go out and play, and you’ll feel better?”

    But seriously. That hair. So painstakingly, deliberately, conscientiously tussled.

    • RR Says:

      LOL You are so right on the over-stylized FTM hair that most of them have! Does she really think that a 100£ haircut that requires 15 salon products and an hour of styling reads as masculine in any way? Or the full face of slap and artsy neck scarf? She looks like 99% of hipster chicks in any city in the world. The only gender-nonconforming person on the stage is Dr. Julia, who is probably “misgendered” on a daily basis. I am sure the irony is lost on Jack, these gender zombies have really lost plot.

      • GallusMag Says:

        That’s not hipster hair. THIS is hipster hair:

        Nice try Jack!

      • Jessica Says:

        Someone already mentioned this, but if these MTT are all ‘real women for sure’ then I want to know why they pick stripper names.



      • RR Says:

        LOL That’s it! The black and white cookie of hairstyling!

        So chic . . . so non-binary- WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT FLAVOR IT IS ANYWAY?

        If Jack is “non-binary”, than every woman who leaves the house in anything but a flowing lavender ballgown and a soap-opera filter is “non-binary”. Jack may have to come up with a new assholish term to distinguish xirsnelf from the unwashed masses.

    • Zemskull Says:

      Jack’s hair reminds me of some of the British new wave bands from the mid-1980s, who were intentionally trying to be effeminate.

  22. LC Says:

    Jesus. I’m more “gender noncomforming” than this Jack Monroe. I get misgendered by some of the kids I work with(naturally I accuse them of violence and call them cis scum). Well done by Julia Long, even if she didn’t have much of an opponent.

  23. Sure enough Jack is on the “T” (testosterone) and is soon to get the “top surgery”. When was this video made? To me, she just looks like any other young woman her age.

    “The 27-year-old campaigner has come out as transgender, saying he has “never truly felt female.”

    What does it mean to “truly feel like a female”?

    “So while Jack identifies as transgender, it is of the “non-binary” sort: in other words, neither fully male, or female.”

    She is fully female and always will be, but it’s transphobic to say females get pregnant. Everyone knows that women get pregnant in special “non-binary” ways, and the ignorant transphobes need to get with the program. I wonder if she is going to refer to herself as mother, father, or just Jack, the “non-binary” dad.

    “Although Jack came out as a lesbian as a teenager, a straight fling in her early twenties resulted in the birth of her son, now five.

    Explains Jack: “Everything went a little bit haywire when I fell pregnant.

    “For a while, when I had my little boy, I thought that pregnancy might have ‘fixed’ me.

    “I loved my body, I loved all it could do and the fact it allowed me to carry my wonderful, beautiful son.

    “And although I have absolutely no regrets, ultimately it didn’t change the relationship I have with my body.

    “I started binding my chest at the age of 17, and have done it pretty much continuously now for the last few years.”

    Lesbian is out and trans is the latest thing, and jumping on the trans train might help with cook book deals. Look at all the publicity that Caitlyn Jenner, Chaz, and Jazz get. We can’t turn on t.v. without hearing about what Caitlyn wore today.

    • nonny Says:

      Do we really hear much of anything about Chaz though, compared to the others? I think “Jack” might be in for a rude awakening down the road in more than a few ways. One of them being that the more gender non-conforming a female is (ie, the more “Jack” pursues “transition”), the more icky the public finds her and the less bankable she is. Trans isn’t in- transwomen are.

  24. StraightFromTheHeart Says:

    Why does she call her child a “son” and a “little boy”? Why “assign him at birth”? Isn’t that transphobic, Jack?

    • red Says:

      And the bunny. It’s a girl, apparently. I wonder how she knows?

      Mildly amusing, as opposed to the way she uses her kid as a literary device in a backhanded passive aggressive and worrying ‘lesson’ about mean people. The kid played the role of adult to her child. Merde.

    • morag99 Says:

      Yeah! Who is SHE to decide which sex her child is?

  25. Below are some of Dr. Long’s books and articles:

    Long, J., 2015, forthcoming. The Oppression That Dare Not Speak Its Name: Silences Around Heterosexuality in Contemporary Feminism. In: Kiraly, M. and Tyler, M. (Eds.). Freedom Fallacy: The Failures of Liberal Feminism. Ballarat: Connor Court Publishing.

    Long, J., 2014. The Significance of Women’s Spaces in the Women’s Liberation Movement. Paper presented at Women’s Spaces: Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow conference. London Women & Planning Forum/Rooms of Our Own, Queen Mary University of London, London, May 2014.

    Long, J., 2014. Of Beasts, Fiddles and Deckchairs: The Contradictions of Academic Feminism. Keynote address delivered at Smashing Patriarchy in 100,000 words. Postgraduate symposium, University of Dundee, January 2014.

    Long, J., 2013. The De-Politicisation of Women’s Services. Paper presented at Violence Against Women: Where Do We Go From Here? Campaign to End Rape conference, Camden Centre, London, September 2013.

    Long, J., 2013. Young women, gangs and sexual exploitation. Paper presented at Baroness Stern Rape Policy Seminar, House of Lords, London, March 2013.

    Long, J., 2012. AntiPorn: The Resurgence of Anti-Pornography Feminism. London: Zed Books.

    Long, J., 2011. Resisting Pornography, Building a Movement: Feminist Anti-porn Activism in the UK. In: Tankard Reist, M. and Bray, A. (Eds.). Big Porn Inc: Exposing the Harms of the Global Pornography Industry. Melbourne: Spinifex.

  26. Rachel Says:

    (please forgive my ignorance) I don’t, as a rule, keep up with this stuff very much, I couldn’t really tell you who is whom and who means what, and to whom and why.

    I just wanted to say that the thing that stunned me most about this video was the voice that came out when Julia Long spoke.

    if someone understands who she is and has heard her speak before, I guess the “shock” probably wouldn’t be there, but to me, I think there is quite a lesson that can be taken about what we come to understand (through “conditioning” and “enculturation”) as “gender” for anyone who might be looking for it

    Just saying’

    • GallusMag Says:

      ? I have no idea what you’re saying. What was the shock, sir?

    • Teal Deer Says:

      I think you may have forgotten to say what you were “just saying”.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Seriously folks help me out. Am I the only one that doesn’t get what he’s saying? Is he saying he was shocked because her voice was too “masculine” or too “feminine”? Help me out here.

      • Jessica Says:


        It sounds to me like this person is saying that Julia Long once sounded a certain way and now does not, that ‘she’ probably sounds more ‘feminine’ now as enculturation teaches femininity.

        Or something.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Okay I have no idea what that means either. Readers?

      • Jessica Says:

        ok Gallus, what it means is that Julia Long was ‘trained’ by the dominant culture to ‘perform being female’ ie, a specific female sounding voice.

        As we all know, MTF ‘perform’ woman. They play up the stereotype of what it means to be female.

      • GallusMag Says:

        So is he saying he thought she was M2T? He was shocked by her female register? Is that what you’re saying? I mean, females have shorter vocal chords. That is why we sound female. Nothing to do with socialization. Female or male vocal tones are based on biology. Is he saying “I thought she was a dude because short hair?” I don’t get it.

      • Jessica Says:


        I have reviewed and revised my position.

        I apologise for any confusion.

        The commenter might mean that Julia Long sounds like a woman for precisely the reasons you mentioned. That she *does* have shorter vocal chords.

        Honestly though, the more i think about it, the more confused I get.

        It sounds more like the commenter is talking about the M2T, and not Dr. Julia. Which is why the comment makes zero sense.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Okay you make no sense either. But thanks for having a go. 🙂

      • Jessica Says:

        I have a headache now Gallus!

        I was just listening to CBC Radio here in Canada, and there was a special transgender segment.

        An MTT got on to say that he is all about being ‘different’ and celebrating his difference now. His special snowflakeness, if you will.

        See, that’s why I don’t necessarily buy the ‘I am a woman and have always been a woman’ thing because why then do they need to make such a huge fucking deal about being trans no?

      • GallusMag Says:

        Well you can’t all be HBS’ers.

      • morag99 Says:

        ‘Is he saying “I thought she was a dude because short hair?” I don’t get it.’

        Gallus, I’m almost 100% sure this is what he’s saying — though he buried his meaning in a covertly aggressive, very annoying prose “style.”

        Apparently, he was just so shocked (yeah, right) to discover that this person, dressed in simple clothing, with short hair, and not a visible trace of make up, is actually a woman.

        Moreover, he feels that there’s a “lesson” to be learned in all this, IF we are open-minded enough to see it. As open-minded as he is.

        What that lesson is, I wouldn’t know. That video was the first time I ever saw or heard Julia Long, and it was obvious to me, straight-away, that she’s a woman.

      • GallusMag Says:

        SWEET CHRIST THANK YOU. I figured it was something like that but it was going right over my head. THANK YOU for clearing that up. XOXOXOXOX

      • Jessica Says:

        Yep it clearly went over my head too.

        Thanks for explaining.

        I didn’t watch the entire video, but it was obvious that Dr Long was a woman within the first few seconds.

      • morag99 Says:

        Oh, no problem. This is one of my academic specialities. 😉

      • GallusMag Says:


      • GallusMag Says:

        I want the audio of the “academic specialitiies” as my ringtone.

    • RR Says:

      The BS is strong in this HBSer. HBSers usually have a less tenuous grasp on reality than the autogynephiles who do know their lady LARP-ing is a sexual fetish. The HSBer who actually believes in “lady essence” may genuinely be “shocked” that woman with short hair sounds like a woman (because, for them, having short hair means you do not have a “lady essence” like a “true trans” male like themselves). Tran-ese is a linguistic stew complicated by its speakers generally suffering from a variety of personality disorders so I’d just count Rachel’s comment as a random drive-by turd dropping.

  27. shediogenes Says:

    Quarterly bonuses are in. Check you donations. XOXO

  28. Hi Gallus Mag

    The cotton ceiling strikes again. This time with #terfdating. A trans woman is angry because a lesbian rejected him on Tinder. Instead of just going on with his life he throws mantrums on twitter.

    “I matched with a TERF on Tinder”

    • Ashland Avenue Says:

      Welp, Anna’s my new shero!

      Also, in Griffith’s Twitter, he talks about his only “marketable skill being sucking dick”, how his new year’s resolution is to post more nudes of himself, and how he’s going to spend all day looking at his “titties” in the mirror. So yeah, just another pornsick dude thinking he’s a woman. And then he’s simply baffled why a woman wouldn’t want to date him. Good Maude, you can’t make this shit up.

  29. Cyst Says:

    Dr. Long cuts right to the heart of the matter here. God, I hope she doesn’t face any kind of backlash or threats (although who am I kidding, of course she’s going to get threats) from this honest and well-researched interview. As for Jack’s question of “who are you to decide who is a man and who is a woman?” we might well ask “well…who are you to decide that?”

    • GallusMag Says:

      I’ve seen at least four tweeters say that they either would have hit/punched her, or that Jack should have. And I only looked for a minute.

      • morag99 Says:

        Me, too. I saw that. And I read only one piece of reporting with a comment section, and just a few minutes’ worth of twitter commentary.

        Well, Julia IS out of order, after all, and therefore must be put back into line. It makes sense once one understands that transgenderism is misogynistic and controlling. Its violence is right on or near the surface, so one doesn’t have to look for it; it just shows up.

      • Cyst Says:

        Feh. Jack quite obviously couldn’t hurt a fly. I’d be more worried about the Twitter commenters themselves if I were Dr. Long. Shades of Zoey Tur vs. Ben Shapiro coming to mind…

  30. GallusMag Says:

    Someone sent these to me- I don’t know who made them. LOL

    • RR Says:

      Ha! This is great, the look she gave at the end was pretty brilliant, too, it hit the sweet spot of smug and adorable.

  31. LOL Dr. Long sound awesome

  32. M. Says:

    I left a comment above which I pasted below. I’m just making sure that Gallus doesn’t think I’m a man? Gallus left a comment under my comment which was ETA but not sure it’s directed at me. My question was about Jack, somewhere, previously identifying as a lesbian femme. Anyway, just making sure that there’s no dispute or question about my womanhood. I’m not trans–but was married to a butch who transitioned which led me to radical feminism and critiquing gender/transgenderism.
    Anyway, please email me if you need to authenticate my sex or maybe I misread Gallus’ comment or it was directed to someone else? Thanks and keep up the good work. I read your blog all the time, and it has helped clarify my stance on a lot of these issues.
    M. Says:

    January 18, 2016 at 12:07 pm
    Hi there,
    Loved the interview; Dr. Long was amazing! I’ve seen this before that Jack identifies as a lesbian femme. As one myself, I’m curious about this–is that something printed somewhere I can have a read or on an interview? Anyway, thanks if you can but no worries if it’s a hassle. Have a great week!

    GallusMag Says:

    January 18, 2016 at 12:10 pm
    You too! Rock on!

    ETA: Ugh. Another man. You pigs are relentless. Fuck you sir.

    • GallusMag Says:

      Ah. That explains it. Sorry hon- weeding out the deluge of PIW sometimes makes me a bit overzealous. Thank you for speaking up/clarifying and please accept my apology. I appreciate your patience. x

      • M. Says:

        No worries! I can understand why you would be vigilant about such things. I must admit my heart sunk a little when I thought, ohhh noooo…she thinks I’m ‘pretending’ I’m a lesbian femme (an identification that I get some raised eyebrows at on some radical feminist FB groups, so I was a little anxious about stating it here). I can see why you might be suspicious as the internet B/F forums I belong to has transwomen ‘femmes’ as well; interestingly enough, I don’t know of any butches or femmes who partner with them. Funny that–lesbians actually wanting to partner with other women.

        Anyway, thanks for the apologies. This blog must keep you so busy. I really appreciate all you have done in this area.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Thanks for being so understanding. (((((you)))))

  33. easilyriled Says:

    Is Jack really a man dressed as a woman dressed as a man with artfully tousled hair and make up? Or a woman dressed as a tattoo parlor dressed as a man presenting as a hair style? Really it would be helpful if the ‘non-binaries’ would ‘present’ with a map or an instruction booklet. Poor wee thing, she was out of her depth in that conversation.

  34. red Says:

    I am still in a morass of self-pity here because Jack talks surviving poverty, no heat, not eating etec, and I have always lived below the official poverty level but never managed double-sleeve tatoos, Doc Martens or the high end DSLR she’s shooting with.

  35. red Says:


    This is the closing funds raised for Jack’s new book. Can any Brit here tell us what this is in U.S. funds? This is a very slim book, for about 100 recipes. Maybe 150 pages?

    This is typical of the comments under the funder:

    “I am so pleased well done Jack , I have ordered two books one is for my mum as a present she is really excited too (…), you are very muched loved , enjoy your writing. (sic).”

    I wonder what mum would say about Jack’s plans to have her breasts whacked off? Money is money, Jack lives on her work income. Work pays for her surgeries too, I assume.

    This woman is very dangerous. She has a slathering, uninformed and uncritical fan base. What are the funders telling *their* daughters about mastectomy mutilations?

    • kesher Says:

      That’s a little under $100k. Is the money going to fund publishing the book or this just what Jack “needs” to subsist off of while she writes it? If it’s the latter, that’s a hell of a lot of money. Most advances for non-celebrities are in the $20k range; although many writers in recent years have had to do with no advance whatsoever.

    • Magdalena Z. Says:

      Actively working against females and female only spaces and saying she is a male in her brain or whatever her super-special identity is makes her a terrible role model for young women and girls. Is she making it cool and edgy to not only harbor contempt and hatred for her female body but for even anyone perceiving her as female? What does this say to young women who are already gender dysphoric without wanting to mutilate themselves? You are right she is dangerous, no less than someone who encourages anorexia or bulimia or what have you by not only being anorexic but by refusing treatment and by calling anyone who tries to treat anorexic people a bigoted starvation-phobe.

  36. red Says:

    No one gets deals like that even in NA. What I find disturbing is this is indication of her ‘celebrity’: fawning young women who consider whatever she does as avant-guard and fashionable, not mentally ill questionable self-destruction. I bet even her publisher will gloss over it, and any media.

    She might be self-publishing, who knows but it’s not the money. It’s her whole personae. So frightening.

  37. red Says:

    In spite of the fact she’s a good writer, I’ll say again: NONE of her recipes is original. In fact many are barely indistinguishable from her former mentor’s. She tweaks a spice and calls it hers. Her cachet is entirely being edgy trans, and that’s what her publisher (if..) and her readers are buying. Her other pony is poverty survival. As near as I can tell she has wealthy parents and was poor herself for maybe 7 months. Her suggestions for doing X on the cheap are ridiculous, and cost way more then she’s quoting.

    So many women whom male chefdom use to get where they are. So many women do this for free, taught the men who are now making milliso on it. Now, this?

    I’m calling her lying ass out.

  38. GallusMag Says:

    Maria Miller says only hostility to transgender report came from women ‘purporting to be feminists’
    Former Culture secretary says she was taken aback by ‘extraordinary’ backlash from minority of women after her report
    Tom McTague Political Editor @TomMcTague 4 hours ago

    When the Women and Equalities Committee published a report calling for a sea-change in attitudes to transgender people, Maria Miller, the chair of the committee, might have expected to be attacked by right-wingers within her own party.

    But, while they were largely silent on the issue, the former Culture secretary said she was taken aback by the “extraordinary” hostility from a minority of women “purporting to be feminists”.

    Speaking to The Independent on Sunday from her office in Westminster, Ms Miller insisted that the “overwhelming” reaction to her report has been positive. Despite controversial calls for “gender neutral” passports and for 16-year-olds to be given the legal right to change their sex, there was barely a peep from her more traditional colleagues on the Tory back benches.

    “The only negative reaction that I’ve seen has been by individuals purporting to be feminists,” Ms Miller said. Many are furious with her call for women’s refuges to ensure equal access to people who have transitioned from male to female.

    A glance at Ms Miller’s Twitter page shows that the backlash is real. She is accused of exposing women to “violent men hiding behind the mask of transgender”. In another message, she is told trans women are “not real women” and are often “violent offenders or sex offenders” and that she was failing in her duty to protect women.

    It follows on from Germaine Greer’s remark that transgender women “can’t be women”, adding: “Just because you lop off your penis … it doesn’t make you a woman.”

    But Ms Miller, wading into the dangerous territory of radical feminist politics, insisted that they are wrong. She pointed to research by the Fawcett Society, a think-tank campaigning for women’s rights, which found that two-thirds of feminists believe gender to be fluid. “Of course, that would cut across what Germaine Greer is saying,” she said.

    “I think that all of us who are feminists know that equality for other groups of people, and a fairer deal for other groups of people, is good for us as well. If we live in a fairer society, where opportunities are not cut off because of your gender or sexuality or race or religion, then that is going to be good for women as well as good for everyone else.

    “We should all be fighting for a fairer society. I find it extraordinary that somebody wouldn’t acknowledge that. But there seems to be an undercurrent of opinion among some that trans people shouldn’t be treated equally, even when they’ve had a legal change in their gender, and that in some way this is a threat to women; I simply reject that.”

    She praised the “important work” of single-sex services, such as rape crisis centres. “But those sorts of services should be supporting trans women,” she insisted.

    Ms Miller’s fellow committee member Jess Phillips, the Labour MP who ran a rape crisis centre before entering Parliament, admitted she could “understand” the concerns raised by some women.

    “Some feminists prioritise gender equality above all else, but I think we should also do our bit to promote general equality,” she said. “I’m not upset with the backlash, but we’re all much better off when we are all better off.”


    • GallusMag Says:

      “She pointed to research by the Fawcett Society, a think-tank campaigning for women’s rights, which found that two-thirds of feminists believe gender to be fluid. “Of course, that would cut across what Germaine Greer is saying,” she said.”

      Sooooo. 33% of self-identified feminists are willing to clearly and publicly proclaim that males are not female and that women are not defined by sex stereotypes. Even if that percentage were true, that’s not exactly a tiny minority movement is it? Soon it will be 100%.

      • kesher Says:

        Pretty striking that it’s 33 percent given how viciously the cult attacks anyone who doesn’t agree, and how many women haven’t yet encountered 100 percent Real Women like Justin Kilian. Familiarity breeds contempt, I bet most of that 33 percent is intimately acquainted with MTTs’ bullshit.

  39. purportedly Says:

    No really you wrote that right? “We are all much better off when we are better off?”

    • GallusMag Says:

      “Some feminists prioritize women’s rights, but if we keep our men happy we will all be better off” LOLOLOLOL

    • RR Says:

      “But Ms Miller, wading into the dangerous territory of radical feminist politics, insisted that they are wrong.”

      So brave that she just waded on into this dangerous territory and insisted we were wrong! Bang out of order!

  40. nonny Says:

    I’m sad for Jack, even though she is a brainwashed idiot. She’s clearly disturbed. Good luck with the T, when your carefully styled hair starts falling out and you grow a neckbeard. Jfc.

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