Other Wachowski film director also comes out as transgender

March 9, 2016


Andy Wachowski now "Lilly"

Andy Wachowski now “Lilly”

Both members of the Wachowski Brothers directorial team wish to now be recognized as women, reports the Windy City Times. Larry came out as “Lana” in 2011. Andy will now be called “Lilly”. Like his brother, he requests that people pretend that he is an ova-producing person, not the sperm producer that he actually is. Both married heterosexual brothers are undergoing cosmetic surgical and hormone treatments in pursuit of a more female appearance. Andy posted the above right photo and has issued a public statement.

“So yeah, I’m transgender.
And yeah, I’ve transitioned.
I’m out to my friends and family. Most people at work know too. Everyone is cool with it. Yes, thanks to my fabulous sister they’ve done it before, but also because they’re fantastic people. Without the love and support of my wife and friends and family I would not be where I am today.

But these words, “transgender” and “transitioned” are hard for me because they both have lost their complexity in their assimilation into the mainstream. There is a lack of nuance of time and space. To be transgender is something largely understood as existing within the dogmatic terminus of male or female. And to “transition” imparts a sense of immediacy, a before and after from one terminus to another. But the reality, my reality is that I’ve been transitioning and will continue to transition all of my life, through the infinite that exists between male and female as it does in the infinite between the binary of zero and one. We need to elevate the dialogue beyond the simplicity of binary. Binary is a false idol.

Now, gender theory and queer theory hurt my tiny brain. The combinations of words, like freeform jazz, clang disjointed and discordant in my ears. I long for understanding of queer and gender theory but it’s a struggle as is the struggle for understanding of my own identity. I have a quote in my office though by José Muñoz given to me by a good friend. I stare at it in contemplation sometimes trying to decipher its meaning but the last sentence resonates:

“Queerness is essentially about the rejection of a here and now and an insistence on potentiality for another world.”
So I will continue to be an optimist adding my shoulder to the Sisyphean struggle of progress and in my very being, be an example of the potentiality of another world.”


Larry Wachowski now "Lana"

Larry Wachowski now “Lana”

You can read the full statement here:


*NOTICE: This is NOT a joke! *

116 Responses to “Other Wachowski film director also comes out as transgender”

  1. stchauvinism Says:

    Another wealthy man has cosmetic surgery and hormone treatment and takes his cross dressing games public, happy International Woman’s Day

  2. Reblogged this on stop trans chauvinism and commented:
    It is quite common for a sibling to emulate those who have already got attention for being ‘transgender’. It is rare amongst siblings this age.

  3. coelacanth Says:

    “You can read the full statement here”

    Why? Have we no paint to watch dry?


    • GallusMag Says:

      b..but Struggle for progress! Potential for another world! Beyond time and space! The Infinite Between! etc etc.

    • Trish Says:

      Better than looking at those “after” photos.

      • Zacarthan Says:

        That quote is arresting in itself. Some of this stuff has a quasi-religious / mystical flavor to it, doesn’t it? Looking for the transcendent via body modification? Reminds me, sorry, of a ballerina who wrote a book about numerous anal sex episodes with a man that she knew. She literally said she was “looking for God” by this means. I’m sorry, but if folks ridicule religion (and there are reasons, I know), nevertheless, look at what we are confronting right here. Religion can actually involve a sincere and earnest search for truth, for transcendence, for meaning. But to elevate this ideology to that platform, well, what can I say? Theater of the Absurd?

      • LC Says:

        @Zacarthan, I see it as searching for meaning in an instable life. Some people turn to actual religions to do that, some latch on to any idea that makes them temporarily happy or provides stability to their thoughts. Could be if they call it “God” or “transcendence”, it makes it sound legitimate or harder to challenge. Most people don’t have an issue with calling out things that are clearly crazy, but associate it with religion and there’s a much greater reluctance to criticize beliefs.

  4. Janetwo Says:

    Really, on International Women Day? No attention whoring at all… Anyhow, its off topic somehow but I would just want to mention Berta Caceres, the Honduran environmental and aborigenal right activist who has been killed last week. Mainstream does not mention enough of that some of the bravest, most important activists in developping countries are women: Wangari Maathai, Vandana Shiva, the Black Mambas (African women fighting against poaching), the Gulabi Gang and so many others. I raise my glass to all these extraordinary courageous women. Today should be their day.

    • Thank you for your comment. It gave me hope for this world.

    • coelacanth Says:

      I am a gay man so this is a topic I should not even discuss probably but I have a mother and sister and nieces and countless women in my life who I love, so here is my 2 cents. On IWD, why have I not seen any women addressing this insanity of attempts to change female genital mutilation into a “cultural” norm with a new name: mutilation is now “alteration” and being compared to male circumcision! (I was circumcised at 14 and had a decades long wonderful gay sex life — TMI I know but germane info — so there is no comparison on any level between a snip of foreskin and what is done to girls so do not ever let anyone ever attempt to pretend they are comparable.)

      I know this attempt to change torture into “culture” is being done to placate Islam under the pretense of “racism” but to me it seems very similar to trans changing the definition of women under the guise of “sexism”. This attempt to change this barbaric torture of females into a “cultural” practice like not eating pork is a very dangerous new development in the re-religioning of the Western world by Islam and its leftist race obsessed Kapos.


      • bobab Says:

        Even though coelacanth’s circumcision post is off topic, if possible I’d like to address it as he raises some interesting points.
        “On IWD, why have I not seen any women addressing…FGM…new name…alteration etc?”
        And where have you seen that? Regarding FGM, women’s groups are dealing with this problem on a daily basis.
        February 6th was International Day of Zero Tolerance to Female Genital Mutilation;

        “ I was circumcised… wonderful gay sex life… so there is no comparison on any level… etc”
        Yes, unfortunately you do not speak for all who are circumcised.

        “I know this attempt to change torture into “culture” is being done to placate Islam…”
        Do you?
        Have you seen Reza Azllan speaking on the subject?

        You raise the issue of Islam. Are you familiar with the Jewish circumcision ritual where the Rabbi sucks the blood from the baby’s penis with his mouth? Babies have contracted STD’s from this carry on. Male circumcision is not merely a little snip. Let this Jewish mother explain;

        “the re-religioning of the Western world by Isla m and its leftist race obsessed Kapos.”
        Nah I don’t see that at all. I think the christians/jews men/women do a mighty fine job of fucking the West up all by themselves.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Okay I hope you said all you wanted because I’m ending this derail now. Thanks everyone for your comments. No further comments in this off-topic derail will be published so don’t bother sending them.

  5. morag99 Says:

    Wow. Andy Lilly Wachowski is so deep. That stuff he said about space and time? And about terminus and infinity, male and female, binary code, and, like, the unworldliness of this world and other worlds? Or something like that. I think. And how thinking and contemplating and being nuanced is totally queer? And that’s why he’s a lady now?

    It blew my mind! Ha!

    • amazondream Says:

      Legend in his own mind is what it amounts to–LOL–Freaking first-class loser.

    • Biscuit Says:

      He sounds like a dim-witted sixteen year old on LSD.

      • Rachel Says:

        I was going to say that. It seems to be a bit of a theme with transloons, a rather immature worldview, with all the self-absorption that comes with that. See also: the TumblrTrans/kawaii/otaku trend.

      • Oak and Ash Says:

        My first reaction was also to assume drugs, but perhaps he’s just high on his own narcissism.

    • OldPolarBear Says:

      That all made about as much sense as one of their crappy, overrated, adolescent, fan-boy, comic-book movies.

    • KgSch Says:

      Yet another reason why I refuse to associate with anything queer. His rant is so pretentious and illogical. I think this could be another reason why many people are unwilling to question the trans cult and queer theory, because it’s a bunch of rambling, post-modern nonsense, and they feel like they can’t question it if they don’t “understand” it. Here’s a tip: be suspicious whenever someone cannot explain things in a direct, straight-forward way!


      Yeah, kind of. But I do also think it’s narcissism. My brother used to be into LSD at that age and he mostly just rambled about how beautiful trees were.

  6. ex home birthers Says:

    I hope their wife is okay

    • mel Says:

      They don’t share a wife. Each brother has his own wife.

      • bobab Says:

        mel said;
        “Each brother has his own wife.”

        After checking the Wachowski wiki page, more specifically note 83;
        It appears that ” Larry Wachowski… has been having marital problems and is in a relationship with a dominatrix. The dominatrix’s husband, Jake Miller, bitter over being left, guessed that Wachowski was wearing “bra and panties” under his suit at the première. Which then leads to speculation about Wachowski’s sexuality/sexual issues.”

        Hmmm, Jake Miller? Scroll down to “personal life” and everything falls into place;

        “I also know people who were clients of Ilsa (Larry Wachowski’s girlfriend) and refer to her as nurturing and tender, as opposed to how she is presented in the Rolling Stone article as someone who’s “greatest accomplishment was putting 333 needles into a single penis.”

      • nonny Says:

        Lol tyvm mel!

      • Janetwo Says:

        To me, this kind of normalisation of unacceptable cultural practices is on the continuum of all that pomo moral subjectivism BS coming out of the 70s. Changing the wording serves nothing but obfuscate the reality. Not everything cultural is respectable. There are some things that cannot be justified rationally or ethically. Its universal that no mentally healthy human being will choose to be harmed, to be enslaved, to be deprived of freedom, of education, to starve, to live in squalor. A child will certainly not choose to be mutilated. Ultimatelly, no culture can morally defend imposing misery, suffering and subordination to a whole group of citizens to serve the interests of another class of citizens. Its just amazing the extent people will twist the language to mask what are so obviously acts of physical or psychological violence.

      • Oceans Says:

        Lol. That Stephen Elliot piece was a foot-stomping “Leave Brittney alone!!!” hissy-fit. Great for a laugh.

      • bobab Says:

        Yes, and it’s been 9yrs since Chris ‘genderbending’ Crocker did his utube Britney blub. Now he’s back, declaring his gender fluid trans internal womanhood;

        “The gay on gay hatred or the gay on gay discrimination is what I find so puzzling. When other queer people say, “If you were really transsexual…” — because I lived as a girl for three years and people ask, “Was that all an act?” That’s the biggest thing that I get disgusted by. It’s like, “Oh, really? That was all an act? I would go through all that trouble for three years — using women’s bathrooms, problems in airports?” No. I wouldn’t.”

  7. silverside Says:

    Gosh, wonder if there are more mainstream transwomen film directors than there are of the old-fashioned female kind now. Notoriously difficult business for women to break into. So convenient for males to come out as trans after they already get to the top.

  8. nonny Says:

    Unfortunately, while the mainstream could react to this with:
    – “whoa, we’ve been taught that ~true transexuality~ is somewhat rare! The odds of two bros being trans is next to impossible unless it’s mental/social conditioning or fetishistic bullshit!”
    ….that they’re more likely to react with:
    – “Huh. Must be genetic, or something, like being gay?”
    I’ve already seen evidence of this ^ in the cesspool that is reddit 😦

  9. Carrie-Anne Says:

    I recently saw some of their films in some long list of supposedly important films directed by women. They’re both men, and Larry wasn’t even “Lana” yet when these films were made! What an insult to actual women directors.

  10. Sundazed Says:

    heh I could not help but think that there is a lot of new age talky talk muddied into his note there about his personal thoughts in regards of “transitioning my whole life”.
    Must be good to be rich and male to be able to “transcend reality”, in which most of us lives in every single day, Struggling.

  11. J N Says:

    “Queerness is essentially about the rejection of a here and now and an insistence on potentiality for another world.”

    The people I experience as wise are people who spend a lot of time living in the present, whether they set aside time for meditation or not. They are people who can see reality and accept it, while supporting others and making things work better. Those are qualities I value in myself and others.

    The “queerness” described in that quote is the opposite of wisdom. It sounds like living in unreality and insisting that reality should conform to you.

    • I thought the only way to get to the “potentiality for another world” was to fully embrace THIS one, to really get down into the muck of it…kind of like here at GenderTrender. GallusMag gives us the potentiality for another (better) world. By truthtelling, full embrace of the full truth. Well, I’m a woman, what do I know!

  12. Janetwo Says:

    And the millions of women without access to education, victims of the sex trade, living under repressive patriarchal regimes are very thankful to Andy for his bravery. He just made an admirable use of his public notoriaty to promote this most pressing social issue: the white rich male middle age crisis. All the websites like wikipedia and IMDd have miraculously been updated overnight to reflect Andy coming out.

    It’s convenient for the bros to come out after a serie of flops at the box office. High profile transgenderism seems very much like a “has been” or “wanna be” phenomenon for white males. Julia Serano somewhat falls in that category of mediocre artists with a gigantic ego who cant admit being a failure outside her professional field of biology. The common thread of all the she-dudes is the insufferable pomposity and self-absorption. I cant think of any women who would get away with this level of self-absorption and not be publicly shamed for it.

    • ImNoCissie Says:

      I liked it better when male menopause meant buying red sports cars and getting divorced.

    • Zemskull Says:

      Hi Janetwo: You have perfectly articulated what I have noticed when an MTT online or in real life becomes insulting to other people, or even launches into a full tirade. If a born-women did either, bystanders would generally show their disapproval very quickly. With an MTT, neither the women nor men tend to feel they have the standing to respond. MTTs enjoy living in an anarchistic wild west, and the victims or bystanders have to pay the price.

    • Guls Says:

      I imagine we’re going to be seeing a rash of detransitions and not a few lawsuits in a few years’ time when peak Trans* has passed and the Liberal intelligentsia has a new cause celébre. Despite insistence to the contrary on the part of many mainstream ‘activists’ the whiff of runaway fadism grows ever more cloying.

      It’s no wonder ‘bottom surgery’ has fallen from favour – deep down most of these guys know they’ll be coming back. ….

      I know a man with breast implants, sorry, a ‘chick with a dick’ who is already fed up with being a fetish for a bunch of men in denial of their same-sex attractions …..

      • ephemeroptera Says:

        From a reliable source I heard about prelim results of a sexology study on guys into chicks with dicks.

        It’s its own thing, w the next big category of desire is men, and then, for some, as a distant third, women.

        The hypothesis of “it’s closeted guys who like this” was going against the data at that time when I heard.

  13. Larichus Says:

    Well, that should clear up that whole canard about how L.A. is an unreal place populated by unreal people … *sigh*

  14. Magdalena Z. Says:

    My god the Manson lamps on those two!

    • juno Says:

      Yup, the cultist stare. It’s what happens when you drink he kool-aid.

      • Magdalena Z. Says:

        It’s such a switch from the “before” photo, the dead-behind-the-eyes typical male 100 yard stare, it’s like becoming a ladee is a good excuse to let all the crazy loose.

  15. belinda Says:

    These guys aren’t the big A-list directors they used to be, so now they can keep making junk, but as brave wimmen.

    • Oceans Says:

      They’ve been in a dry spell, but their most recent movie was made for around $175 million. Not chicken feed. No actual woman would get handed a budget like that.

  16. OldPolarBear Says:

    Not that it really matters, I suppose, but I’m kind of curious: are they homosexual men or autogynephiles? Or is it one of each? Larry/Lana strikes me as possibly the former, with the other one following along now out of some kind of sympathetic effect, or envy at the attention, etc. Whichever, I would think either one would cause them a lot of trouble with their teenage fanboy base, teen boys in this culture being so misogynistic and homophobic. Maybe trans is seen as “cooler” somehow than being gay … Who knows?

    • GallusMag Says:

      They are both heterosexual autogynephiles. Larry/Lana has a long history of lifestyle kinksterism/BDSM/forced feminization. He married his professional domme, causing a scandal in the fetish community: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81049

      • Oceans Says:

        Oh, the comments following the story!! And back in 2006! Oh, had they had the Trans Borg back then!!

        Seriously, aside from a little finger-wagging, there’s no DIAF or anything probably because most of the commenters are male.

        I wish so badly for the general public to get a long good look at this aspect of the trans community.

      • OldPolarBear Says:

        Thanks GallusMag for that link. I had no idea. “Lana” had come out back when I was still pretty much on board with the whole thing, so I took it all at face value and never looked into it. You are so well-informed and this blog is so valuable. I learn so much here.

  17. Well, mental illness does run in families…


    If I had made those last few movies I wouldn’t want to show my face in public either.

  18. CKDexterHaven Says:

    Another sexist man becoming a sexist man’s idea of what it is to be a woman. Reap all the benefits of being male and then spend your twilight years literally wanting to fuck yourself. The very fact that these men are incapable of understanding that transgenderism is the embodiment of misogyny proves they have never experienced a single moment of womanhood.

  19. DaveSquirrel Says:

    Their fan-boy flicks are crap, let me just get that out there!

    “through the infinite that exists between male and female as it does in the infinite between the binary of zero and one. We need to elevate the dialogue beyond the simplicity of binary.”

    Using my decoder ring, I believe he has come up with the idea of “chicks with dicks”. Sorry bro, it is an old idea.

    For a minute there, I thought he was going to come out with “To infinity and beyond”, as TransBuzzLightyear. Give it time, maybe he will…

    • coelacanth Says:

      He’s Elroy Jetson in a panty girdle.

    • Zemskull Says:

      I was thinking that Wachowski’s incomprehensible public statement was similar to an artist statement you’d read at New York’s Museum of Modern Art. Such artists’ statements are usually equally baffling so you won’t notice that their work really means nothing, e.g. the canvas that’s been painted white.

  20. CKDexterHaven Says:

    So, for this type of trans ‘becoming a woman’ is the ultimate in gimp-suits? The ultimate sexual humiliation? They’re invested in keeping women as the abused and degraded class so they can thrill at playing the violated victim. Must be lovely to have the off-switch.

    • I make a prediction. When the “big thrill” and media splash of “going woman” wears off, we’ll be seeing wealthy white males fetishising (sp. error) blackness, and “black face” (and black body) will become the new “trans” closet for these men to come out of. One peak trans, and one alone? I think there will be a series of “peak trans,” waves of it. But then again, I am a bit of a seen-it-all cynic. So don’t take my word on this. But “becoming” a black woman seems like the next big trend to take off, from my cynical perspective, for these white men. Rachel Dolezal, the trailblazer!

      • sellmaeth Says:

        I don’t know … oppressing women is considered much more acceptable these days than oppressing black people is, and it has a much longer tradition … pretending to be black can’t be that much of a thrill to them.
        However, I hope that’s the direction that they’ll go, because then, people will finally wake up. The reactions to Rachel Dolezal, after all, weren’t as friendly as those to transgenders.

      • stchauvinism Says:

        Oppressing black people is unacceptable these days? Right, that’s why little boys are murder by cops for playing with toy guns or shot for walking home with some skittles and their murderers walk free.

      • J N Says:

        British spelling (i.e. ‘fetishising’) is not a spelling error. Nor is American spelling,

      • sellmaeth Says:

        I didn’t claim it was unacceptable, just that it is considered less acceptable than oppressing women.

        Unless you think that we live in a feminist utopia …

    • Hedda Gabler Says:

      There is a lot of truth in that. In my experience M2T transgenderism is indeed very often coupled with strong masochistic tendencies.

      There’s quite an interesting parallel in how in both of these scenarios the victim is essentially relying on others to make a certain very personal fantasy reality and to make the “victim” the centre of their attention.

      The exact nature of this “victimhood” is also in both cases something the “victim” expects to ultimately retain control over.

      Just as the masochist is turned off by hearing NO as an answer to their desire to be hurt or humiliated in a certain way, the M2T perceives a NO to their desire to be seen in a certain way as a kind of victimisation that is not part of the “fantasy” they wish to enact.

      While superficially both the Dominatrix and the Woman seem idolized by the masochist and the M2T respectively, they are ultimately not supposed to exhibit true agency beyond the role they have been designated to play in the masochists/M2Ts fantasy.

      In a way M2T transgenderism moves the goalposts from a private transaction between a Dominatrix and a masochist to a scenario where society (and especially women) as a whole are expected to serve the M2T.

    • ImNoCissie Says:

      Yes, there sure is something revolting about someone who wants to become a caricature of what you are as a form of punishment and humiliation.

      Shows how little they really think of women, that impersonating one and ingesting female hormones, growing “breasts”, etc is a way to degrade themselves.

  21. WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

    So you like to play dress up. Okay. Just don’t expect everyone to pretend you’re the opposite sex.

    Wondering: They claim “transgender” is caused by hormone levels in the womb. But “Nicole Maines” has an identical twin brother who is not “trans”. So does Laverne Cox. Cox’ brother seems eccentric, but hasn’t claimed to be trans.

    Also, this “infinity” between 0 and 1 sounds silly. There’s male, female, intersex. Reproductive biology will place most very clearly in male or female. In a small minority of cases, somebody might have the features of both, but even then, only one system would be viable. A 0 cannot be a 1.

    I saw some story of a man over 30, who discovered he had a fully functional female reproductive system hidden inside him, complete with menstrual cycles, but no further details were given.
    I’m wondering how they would explain that (they made no effort to), because one system cancels out the other, eliminating tissues necessary for the opposite system to exist. Also, body chemistry should make it impossible for both systems to function simultaneously. (I suspect the story was a hoax to influence sheeple.)

    • anomie Says:

      I vaguely recall a study done on twins of which at least one was trans—they found the other one had a 48% chance of also being trans, or something like that. No idea who did that study or what their sample size was.

      • LC Says:

        I’ve only heard of studies like that done on homosexuality. I would have to imagine that the sample size for trans twins would be so small so as to make the study useless.

      • againstvaw Says:

        I’m replying to LC, but there is no reply button. A simple way of testing the hormone wash theory would be to take the birth/death records of non-identical twins, one male, one female, born in a Western country, 1945-1950.

        We should see a far higher suicide rate in one of a pair of fraternal twins, if there is anything in the hormone wash theory.

    • sellmaeth Says:

      I think there’s at least two sorts of trans. There’s transsexuals, who really, honestly feel that they ought to have been born in a different body. Those would transition early, not fetishize women’s clothes, and not have careers as males.
      There are medications that, if a woman takes them during pregnancy, cause both transness and intersex conditions as a side effect (I think it was a medication against premature birth), because they act similar to estrogen, so that’d definitely have to do with hormones.

      And then there’s the autogynephiles, who I don’t think are in any way influenced by female hormones, though they might have gotten an overdose of testosterone – fetishes are more common in males.

      • stchauvinism Says:

        No there are not medication that if women take during pregnancy that causes transness, that’s bullshit, you referring to DES, which is longer given to women as it can cause deformations of the reproductive system and specific cancers.

      • anomie Says:

        There are also autogynephiles with actual sex dysphoria (one could argue that the fetish is an outcome of not having a normal sexual outlet due to hatred of one’s genitals or whatever, but I’m not a psychologist), early transitioners who don’t have dysphoria and are doing it because it’s simply very difficult to be a gender-nonconforming man (a number of popular gay vloggers who transitioned use this reasoning), non-dysphoric and non-autogynephilic transitioners doing so out of what I can only call “male guilt” (the “men are awful and oppressive, but I’m not like that so I must not be a man!” thing), plus “failed men” who are perceived as weird/creepy/whatever and transition in the hope of a better social position… and perhaps more subcategories I can’t think of at the moment.

        The idea of medications that “cause” transsexuality doesn’t sit right with me, first of all because unlike intersexuality (which is usually evident at birth) transness doesn’t seem to appear until children start getting sorted into rigid gender roles, ages 3-6, which suggests it’s more socially mediated. Second if the problem causing transsexuality involved hormone imbalances, it would be immediately evident in the development of the body during puberty & possibly earlier.

      • Hedda Gabler Says:

        anomie’s list aligns well with my experiences of the “community”.

        I can think of one addition: there seems to be some people around who are only trans when not in a relationship with a woman. It seems to be a kind of “being my own wife” thing.

        All in all it seems to be a remarkably diverse community that mostly only seems to be held together by the shared expectation of mutual, unquestioning validation of their gender identity.

    • againstvaw Says:

      Sounds like Jerry Cornelius, a time traveller in the science fiction of Michael Moorcock (nominative determinism there). Jerry was raised female in an orphanage, impregnated himself and gave birth to himself. After the birth none of his female bits worked any more.

      It was fiction.

  22. Oak and Ash Says:

    Gallus Mag, I don’t know if you’ve heard the reports about the Dutch dentist in France who deliberately pulled healthy teeth and harmed patients. Among his excuses, he’s now claiming transgender issues as a reason he shouldn’t be prosecuted!

    “Van Nierop has tried to block his prosecution on psychological grounds, the AP reported; the dentist claims he suffers from a borderline personality disorder that is complicated by the fact that he is transgender. He also says he has attempted suicide multiple times.”

    And when asked how he felt about the damage he did, he said, “It does not affect me.”

    He has no sympathy for those he’s harmed, but expects allowances fo be made for him. Horrifying but all too familiar.


  23. Larichus Says:

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/10/the-matrix-wachowski-siblings-men-rights-activists Oooo-kay, so we’re supposed to fall in line behind the Wachowski Brothers or the mras win … ?

    • kesher Says:

      MTFs are MRAs. Their arguments are indistinguishable.

      Women oppress them by existing and by not worshipping them. A woman is what a man says she is. Sex-based oppression doesn’t exist. Women’s authentic sexuality, especially lesbians’, hurts men’s feelings.

      • Larichus Says:

        Precisely. Thanks, I’d hit ‘post’ and then wondered “Was I being too subtle …?”

  24. shagmefrida Says:

    I’m detoxing from the transgender Kool Aid, and I feel such relief that I’m not alone. I dont think this is brave, it makes me really sad as a woman(the old fashioned kind xx) to see these wealthy white male caricatures of women being celebrated while people who truly struggle with gender dysphoria are lumped in with this. No winners here…well except for Lilly of course and the minions who will give themselves a great big pat on the back for being so progressive and compassionate. And the beat goes on…

  25. Jessica Says:

    Tangentially related…

    So I was reading yahoo news as always this morning and I came across this article:


    The comments make me happy. So far, on the first page, not one single comment is in support of this shit.

    Most people are stating that:

    1) trans is a delusion

    2) that ‘being a woman’ is not merely putting on makeup, a dress and heels

    I was also checking the archives on this site and FactCheckMe and someone asked a very good question. If ‘trans women = women’ then why won’t have have PIV sex with each other? I mean, why must cis lesbians be coerced into the PIV sex? If trans women *are* women, full stop, then they should unequivocally be sexually attracted to each other, no?

    Also, someone posted something interesting which I may need to research but…when an MTT undergoes hormone therapy do they lose the ability to get an erection? Because that would make PIV sex with MTT impossible. Yet, so many of the MTT specfically talk about PIV sex? hmmm

    • Zemskull Says:

      Hi Jessica: I have read of MTTs who claim that taking Spironolactone, an androgen blocker, will kill their abilities to get erections. However, I am skeptical of that claim. There are women with polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS) who take Spironolactone for a year or more to reduce facial hair, and many have absolutely no success with it in that regard. If this drug is often ineffective at reducing some chin hair on a woman with a slightly abnormal hormonal range, I suspect it might not always eliminate erections for a typical man’s higher testosterone range.

    • kesher Says:

      HRT can negatively affect their ability to get erections, but it doesn’t necessary shut everything down. And any erectile dysfunction they experience can be easily fixed with Viagra (necessary health care for delicate laydees). From what I understand, even MTFs who have gotten orchiectomies (their balls removed) can get erections with Viagra.

      Considering how many post-HRT MTFs have been accused of rape (Parker Molloy, Laurelai Bailey, Dana McCallum, the latter definitely used his penis), I wouldn’t trust the MTF claim that they’re non-functional downstairs. It’s as much of a self-serving lie as their claim that HRT renders them sterile.

  26. Elle Driver Says:

    In more film-related news: http://feministing.com/2016/03/10/my-auntie-buffalo-bill-the-unavoidable-transmisogyny-of-silence-of-the-lambs/

    This might be */the stupidest/* thing I’ve ever read. Even as a purely masturbatory Pomo intellectual exercise, I’ve rarely seen its equal.

    • linda Says:

      I second your point.

      I’ve just re-read that book, by coincidence. A major plot point is that they locate buffalo bill because Johns Hopkins tells the FBI that he attacked a doctor who turned him down for a sex change. He didn’t meet the criteria for sex change surgery based on the accepted science of the time (noting that Johns Hopkins doesn’t even do the surgery anymore)

      But trannies WANT the fictional character Buffalo Bill, a violent, deeply disturbed, terrifying, male killer of women, to be interpreted as a real transgender woman*, even though the author, the director, and the main characters in the book/ film say he is not, and even though the plot hinges on him not being one, so that they can get offended. Mkay.

      *of course, like everyone here, I believe the phrase “real transgender woman” is internally inconsistent in every way

      • anomie Says:

        I found the interesting thing to be the original article that one was responding to. One of the possibly insightful things it says about that particular character is that he basically represents the worst of patriarchal masculinity, and the author may have tried to code the character as “effeminate” or otherwise gender-nonconforming (whilst avoiding any real-life explanation such as being gay or trans) in order to distance himself from such behaviour. In real life after all it’s mostly outwardly normal, straight (if fetishistic) men who become serial killers and rapists, and for a straight male author in the 1980s or whatever, this was a very uncomfortable truth to confront directly. (This sort of correlating depravity with implied homosexuality/lack of masculinity was common in fiction of the period, as far as I know, and is a much more likely influence on the novel than Janice Raymond.)

        I have not seen the film and don’t plan to (I like being able to sleep at night) so I could be completely off base of course, and any such coding may be entirely in the imaginations of the individuals who wrote those articles.

    • Imnocissie Says:

      It’s all feminism’s fault, doncha know. A film written and directed by men based on a book written by a man. But it’s all Jody foster’s fault and the fault of her fans. They’re being mean to homocidal autogynephiliac men by taking a little bit of feminist pride in the character of Clarice starling feel guilty feel very very guilty for making the tranny cry

      • linda Says:

        LOL true

        I am also gobsmacked that the author is saying the rejection of his application to transition by medical authorities is the impetus for bill to start skinning women.

        “Understanding Bill as someone denied access to transition because she was seen as an autogynephile, as someone who was pushed to her most heinous acts by the dismissal of medical gatekeepers, has opened up space for me to start to reclaim her character.”

        What. What what what. Murdering and mutilating women because science can’t make you one is a legitimate activity in trans world. Mkay. Yeh you can share a locker room with my daughter no problems.
        For fucks sake.

      • My God, that quote that Linda posted! I missed it at first because I can’t stomach Truitt’s pomo wank and barely skimmed the article.

        “while she has been cast as a monster”

        All he did was murder random women and skin them, what’s the big deal, cisbigots? That’s like reclaiming Charles Manson because he was abused as a child. Perhaps Truitt’s next article can rehabilitate Ed Gein, the real-lfe serial killer who inspired the character of Buffalo Bill. Shorter Jos Truitt: “Men who are not given precisely what they want are justified in the most heinous acts of violence imaginable.”

        Truitt has a history as an abuser himself, doesn’t he? Imagine writing this about yourself. They have no self-awareness whatsoever. I can’t imagine why any woman doesn’t want narcissistic, lunatic MTF activists in the ladies’ room, can you? You’re a sick fuck, Truitt.

    • kesher Says:

      The only reason Buffalo Bill isn’t a “true trans” is because he’s violently mentally ill. These days the trans community thinks that a man being violently mentally ill, particularly when his violence manifests against women, is an overwhelming justification to let him transition.

      • anna nora jennell heugh ser nayim Says:

        buffalo bill was not a real person and was not transgender. The real life guy’s crimes were depicted and interpereted in several different horror stories including Leatherface and Norman Bates. Sparking the whole gruesome fascination and slasher horror genre. The closest I know of a real life brutal murderer was Michael Alig but he was a drugged up gay drag queen not a transsexual. Depicted in the story Party Monster, and inspiration for Lady Gaga.

        Neither were Dr Frankenfurter or Hedwig transgender. There are few classic depictions of transsexuals in popular culture. These were portrayals of eccentric non conformist fictional men with very different circumstances. None of which related to desire for gender transition. Bill only wanted to wear other peoples skin not change his sex. Frankenfurter was based on the sexual past of the creator who expressed a disliking of transsexuality. Hedwig was a story of a young gay man who got a botched reassignment surgery (shock value) to legally marry an American man as a ticket out of the country. In the end he ditches his female persona and attire.

        There are less notorious forgettable movies with transgender characters. Boys Dont Cry and The Crying Game are the most influential films I know of specifically representing female to male and male to female pre ops. One portrayed as a love story ending in homophobic violence and the other in vomit inducing genital flashing.

        One lesser known movie actually is a killer transsexual in a horror slasher copping the summer camp setting from Friday The 13th. The killer being a boy raised as a girl by their mother is a twist ending with the shock value reveal ripped from Crying Game. In the sequel they had been released from mental health facilities, being deemed mentally well as a post op only to return to murdering campers for being generally “tacky” (as in the horror film rules dictated in the movie Scream. If they commited a sin such as premarital sex they would be a victim. That all stems from the real life mother of Gein and the character Norman Bates overly strict, single religious mother that isolated and confined her children to her home specifically forbidding her sons from engaging the opposite sex or any townspeople so as not to be “influenced” by outsiders. Gein began his crimes against women upon his mothers death claiming that he did so for her and did the whole Leatherface thing. Making furnishings decorations and accessories.) With the mother from Carrie also being based on this character, Carrie is like the female version of Gein but with superpowers. Another similar character is in a bad indie drama about a boy abused by men multiple times and he becomes mentally disturbed in some way, eventually dressing up and seeing himself as his mother like Norman Bates. And then theres the genderless child of Chucky the homicidal doll. With a gendered split personality based on his mother, again mimicking Norman Bates.

  27. Sketcher Says:

    @ Elle Driver :From your link above:

    ‘It’s not hard to look at the diagnostic criteria and see male gatekeepers dividing and categorizing trans women into those who should and should not be permitted to transition based on who these medical professionals wanted to fuck.’

    No shit, Sherlock? You mean men in positions of power use that position to fuck people below them on the power hierarchy? Gee.
    And that women, and men who want to transition to ‘become’ ‘women’ are included in that ?(Let’s not involve children here because then we could have a real conversation about patriarchal power, Church, and religion.

    Gender is a sex and power-based heirarchy? Who’d have thought?

  28. Wachowski’s are basically washed up as directors. They haven’t done anything since the Matrix. “The Red Pill” is a misogynistic men’s rights group, and the name is taken from the Matrix. I think this is very interesting. What is it about crappy, futuristic comic book sci fi/techy junk that seems to attract men?

    Red Pill Pearls of Wisdom


    The 24th Golden Raspberry Awards were held on February 28, 2004 at the Sheraton Hotel in Santa Monica, California to recognize the worst the movie industry had to offer in 2003. “Matrix Reloaded” was given the worst director award.

    “Cloud Atlas” was the only movie with Tom Hanks that I actually hated. I remember watching this movie, and I actually felt sorry for Tom Hanks. It’s not the actor; it’s the stupid, rambling plot. Even great actors couldn’t make this movie do anything other than bore the viewer.

    Time Magazine Names ‘Cloud Atlas’ The Worst Movie Of 2012; ‘John Carter’ Comes In Second Place


    • ephemeroptera Says:

      Me and a friend saw “Speed Racer” on I-Max and it was majorly sweet.

      We actually both think it’s going to become a college cult classic in a few decades.

      Besides that and the Matrix, though, it seems like the rest of their output is stinkers.

      • GallusMag Says:

        Love Speed Racer! That’s the only film the brothers have done that I liked.

      • ephemeroptera Says:

        I think the best part is the climactic change to 10 seconds of candy colored abstract spiral as Speed wins the final race. It just blows you away in I-Max, especially bc you have no idea it’s coming.

        That sequence is very modernist, no irony at all as it forges new worlds…

        So, as someone w radical progressive inclinations, I’m not surprised I find it so resonant and memorable!

    • nonny Says:

      While they may manage a fun flick or whatever, let’s be real- when somebody says “are the Wachowski’s a one-hit wonder??” EVERYBODY knows the “hit” in question is the Matrix. Boom, question answered, lol.

      As we see from their movies and from this gibberish press release, these dudes live in a white boy who failed Philosophy 101 fantasy world in which they take themselves entirely too seriously and look like utter fools. And they’re probably surrounded by people who can’t or won’t give them a reality check.

      Last fragment of idle speculation: from what I’ve gleaned around the internet, the link haired one strikes me as the more hardcore autogynephile while ol lantern jaw seems like the “I view myself as a failed man, therefore I must be a woman” mid-life crisis type. (Not that they’re mutually exclusive!!)

    • nonny Says:

      *pink haired, oops!

    • WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

      I think they’re definitely overrated, but I thought the first two ‘Matrix’, ‘Vendetta’ and ‘Speed Racer’ were okay. ‘Matrix’ seems stale now.

      I read a synopsis of ‘Cloud Atlas’, sounded interesting, but I tried half watching it on television and it never got my attention.
      Sycophant Griffin raves about it’s standing ovation from critics at the beginning of this speech, then it barely broke even worldwide.

      Eddie Redmayne won a Razzie for ‘Jupiter Ascending’.

      • ephemeroptera Says:

        I never saw Vendetta or Cloud Atlas, but the book Cloud Atlas is pretty good and I’d be interested to see how they filmed it.

        I don’t really get the Wachowskis as people. They’re like townie bros who got sidetracked into kink and science-ish geek religion platitudes.

  29. WTF Is This Nonsense? Says:

    Stars Without Makeup!

  30. Trish Says:

    A friend of mine is “transwealthy”. Maybe the brothers would like to help him transition from an empty bank account.

    • Sketcher Says:

      Heh! No, you just pay with your credit card and if it’s declined, say the person declining it is a transwealthy bigot and you’ll kill yourself if you don’t get what you want.

      • Rachel Says:

        I’m transaristocratic. I identify as a duchess. Gimme my tiara and my family castle now, ar-cis-tocrat meanies.

    • anywoman2 Says:

      -or he is tired of his brother getting attention- and feels left out. If you mention his name alone, without adding ‘brothers’ or mentioning his brother, most people have forgot who he is; his brother creates a buzz here and there with airing his fetish in public.

    • donesoverydone Says:

      Wow, this is sad, he looks terrible and everyone is cheering. I hope he’s happy with his cosmetic surgeries outcome, for his sake.
      Being that trans seems to be functioning as a social contagion, I can only imagine that there will be soon be a wave of ex trans as all these middle aged men who traded one ridgid sex stereotype for another find the high of living out their fetish in public gone. What a mess.

    • Susan Nunes Says:

      God, is he hideous. He must scare the men to death in the men’s room, let alone terrifying the women in the the women’s. You know, this cross-dressing fetish needs to return to the privacy of one’s own home. It is just disgusting.

  31. CisWomanPrivilege Says:

    Like…literally, a pig in a wig.

    • Sketcher Says:

      Yep, with lipstick because, you know, lipstick+false tits+wig + men wanting and getting everything in the sweetie shop else tantrums = ‘woman’.

      I agree it’s a cross-dressing sexual fetish for straight men – GLAAD’s run by a straight cross-dressing man.

      Time for lesbians to withdraw all funding from these groups and also ask them to take the ‘lesbian’ out of the title.

  32. anon male Says:

    “Porn site xHamster has made an unusual proposal to Sense8 creators Lana and Lilly Wachowski, offering to produce the third season of the show after it was cancelled by Netflix.”

    Snerk: I guess we know exactly who the Wachowki “sister’s” people are for sure now.

    And even Always-Go-Full-Liberal types have to question why an industry that’s currently so unprofitable for the “cis” women it exploits somehow has Netflix sized cash — or at least wants to pretend it does, as if that isn’t a classic Trumpian/Porno-dude tactic! — to throw at two straight white guys.

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