Controversy intensifies over Littman ROGD study; petition now signed by 3700, no word from Brown University or PLoS ONE

September 7, 2018

4thWaveNow

by Marie Verite

 In the six days since the launch of the petition urging Brown University and PLoS One to continue supporting research into the sharp increase in youth—particularly females—who seek medical intervention for gender dysphoria, over 3700 have signed and over 1060 have written comments. The initial signature goal was 1000, which was quickly surpassed in less than 12 hours; the goal has since been continuously raised. As of this writing it stands at 4000.

The signatories include many families affected by rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD), medical professionals, therapists, doctors, and academics. You can read them all—and sign the petition, if you have not yet—here.  A small sampler of the 1000+ comments:


— Lee Jussim – Chair Psychology Department, Rutgers University “If it’s wrong, let someone produce evidence that it is wrong. Until that time, if the research pisses some people off, who cares? Galileo…

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10 Responses to “Controversy intensifies over Littman ROGD study; petition now signed by 3700, no word from Brown University or PLoS ONE”

  1. Thomas Prentice Says:

    Documentary Film: I Want My Sex Back. Transgender people who regretted changing sex (Trailer) Premiere 10/09

    They wish they had never undergone a sex change. Billy, Rene and Walt were born male, but later became female. The gender reassignment surgery they thought would bring them peace of mind only created more problems. As their discomfort persisted, two of them reverted back to being men.

  2. Bob Doublin Says:

    This is so chilling. Analogous to allowing an oil company to demand a paper about the reality of global warming be withdrawn solely because they do not like its conclusions.

  3. Hogwash Says:

    Thanks, I didn’t know about this and will be signing.

  4. rheapdx1 Says:

    Signed……because as would be said in some other corners: “ROGD IS BULLSHIT’. Along with if the little one were human, sure as hell I would not want anyone teaching her this crap, be it in K through 12, or at the uni level.

  5. Margaret Says:

    The IOC accepted and acted on mr Joanna Harpers dodgy research with 10 trans participants to frame its trans policy, but 895 participants, plus peer review and being published were not enough for brown university to allow academic freedom and leave Littmans research to stand on its merits. They have now got some crap on their website saying kids of three and four are determedly settled in their transness.
    I’m old enough to remember working on Saturdays managing a counter at Coles and getting less pay than boys who worked under me. I remember not being able to undertake the job I wanted because they were men’s jobs. And now I’m facing erasure because men always get what they want, and, yes, I have reach peak trans and I’m not going to stand for it a second longer.

  6. Margaret Says:

    I found a website run by a female lawyer in New York who has been able to access the IRS statements of Stonewall and others and show the donations they get and who from. Trans backers donate almost all their budget.
    I will search for this page and let you know.
    All trans centred research is being paid for or subsidised while anyone who puts in to do research which authentically represents trans violence, or the way they are using trans conversion therapy on children, is denied funding and told to be ‘politically correct’ and don’t rock the trans boat.


  7. Rapid-onset gender dysphoria in adolescents and young adults: A study of parental reports”

    Read it here from physician and researcher Lisa Littman MD MPH.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    The term Rapid-onset gender dysphoria never existed until recently. What is “rapid-onset gender dysphoria”? It’s basically a made up word to describe what thousands of parents have been observing in their pre-teens and teenagers for years. There was no word to describe what parents and even many professionals (psychologists, therapists, educators, etc.) were seeing with their own eyes. Parents know their children better than anyone else. They observe their behavior from the time they are born.

    In a way, it’s kind of silly and amusing that someone had to come up with an erudite sounding word, “rapid-onset gender dysphoria”, to describe what any rational person can see with our own eyes. “Rapid-onset gender dysphoria” sounds so official and nerdy, but what is it? It’s something that parents have observed in own their children from the time they were born. Parents observe behavior in their kids and know their kids better than any outsider. It’s common sense backed by parents knowing something isn’t right. Pre-teens and teenagers, mostly girls, who never shown signs of “gender dysphoria”, or believing that they were born in the wrong body as kids suddenly declare that they are transgender. The parents describe this sudden transformation as “coming out of the blue”, thus rapid onset. These are little girls who never expressed the belief that they were boys at a young age, and were just like other girls. They expressed no discomfort with their bodies. At age 12, 13, or 14, after hours and hours of trans twitter, watching a zillion and one youtube trans videos, and watching their friends declare they are transgender, they suddenly come out as trans. Parents are left scratching their heads wondering, “What happened to my child”? Parents know it’s a social phenomena. They know it in their gut and heart. Heck, everyone knows it’s primarily a culturally driven phenomenon, even a lot of psychologists and educators. The only reason more parents and professionals don’t speak out is because they are too afraid of being branded “transphobic”.

    We are in the midst of something historic. The number of kids referred to gender clinics is skyrocketing in the U.S. and the UK. And, the number of girls now outnumbers the number of boys. We know something is happening, and rational people know it’s largely cultural. Although logic tells us that it’s primarily culturally driven, it’s taboo to even discuss social factors.

    When we are dealing with children and teenagers, how is it possible to completely rule out social factors, peer influence, etc? Keep in mind that there has never been a precise definition of gender identity. Speaking from a scientific point of view, gender identity and gender dysphoria can’t be measured and quantified. By its very nature, it’s subjective.

    Using an anonymous 90 question survey, Dr Littman recruited 256 parents of children whose symptoms of gender dysphoria suddenly appeared for the first time in adolescence. Most of the parents (80.9%) answered affirmatively that their child’s announcement of being transgender came “out of the blue without significant prior evidence of gender dysphoria. The majority of respondents (69.2%) believed that their child was using language that they found online when they “came out. In the time period just before announcing that they were transgender, 63.5% of AYAs exhibited an increase in their internet/social media (Table 7). Parents identified the sources they thought were most influential for their child becoming gender dysphoria. The most frequently answered influences were: YouTube transition videos (63.6%); Tumblr (61.7%); a group of friends they know in person (44.5%); a community/group of people that they met online (42.9%); a person they know in-person (not online) 41.7%.

    One of the most compelling findings supporting the potential role of social and peer contagion in the development of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria is the cluster outbreaks of transgender-identification occurring in friendship groups. The expected prevalence of transgender young adult individuals is 0.7% [4]. Yet, more than a third of the friendship groups described in this study had 50% or more of the AYAs in the group becoming transgender-identified in a similar time frame, a localized increase to more than 70 times the expected prevalence rate. This is an observation that demands urgent further investigation.

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    Read this from Dr. Littman’s study.

    ”It is important to note that none of the AYAs described in this study would have met diagnostic criteria for gender dysphoria in childhood (Table 3). In fact, the vast majority (80.4%) had zero indicators from the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria for childhood gender dysphoria ..”

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    Wait, aren’t we repeatedly told that transgender people always felt like they were “trapped in the wrong body”? What happened to these kids? We all know what happened, and what is happening. Parents aren’t stupid, and they aren’t blind. It’s culturally driven by the trans saturation of all forms of media (twitter, social media, youtube videos, t.v., etc.). Parents see their their kids binge on twitter, social media. It’s a steady diet of social media. Pre-teens and teens can’t live without social media. All parents know how much they are glued to their smartphone or laptop. And, it’s peer influence. Teens see their friends coming out as trans, and decide they are transgender too.

    With teenage girls, it’s clear something else is going on that could explain why we see more girls than boys being referred to gender clinics. Why has there been a spike in teenage girls? This was unheard of twenty or thirty years ago. Old research has always shown that the number of males seeking hormones and surgery outnumbered the number of females. Why do we see a reversal now? What the heck is happening to our girls?

    No teenage girl feels comfortable with her body, and this is especially true for girls who don’t quite seem to fit in. They feel different and awkward, and don’t want to dress like the other girls. They look at supermodels on t.v. and know they aren’t like these women. We know that eating disorders and cutting are more common in girls, and these are influenced by culture. Adolescence is a tumultuous time for teenage girls, and if we add an existing psychiatric disorder, these girls are especially vulnerable to media and peer pressure.

    Dr. Littman states,

    “The AYAs who were the focus of this study had many comorbidities and vulnerabilities predating the onset of their gender dysphoria, including psychiatric disorders, neurodevelopmental disabilities, trauma, non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI), and difficulties coping with strong or negative emotions (Table 4). The majority (62.5%) of AYAs had one or more diagnoses of a psychiatric disorder or neurodevelopmental disability preceding the onset of gender dysphoria (range of the number of pre-existing diagnoses 0–7). Many (48.4%) had experienced a traumatic or stressful event prior to the onset of their gender dysphoria. “

    In her study, Dr. Littman gives examples:

    “Peer contagion has been shown to be a factor in several aspects of eating disorders. There are examples in the eating disorder and anorexia nervosa literature of how both internalizing symptoms and behaviors have been shared and spread via peer influences [28–32] which may have relevance to considerations of rapid-onset gender dysphoria.

    The following case summaries were selected to illustrate peer, trauma, and psychiatric contexts that might indicate more complicated clinical pictures.

    – A 12-year-old natal female was bullied specifically for going through early puberty and the responding parent wrote “as a result she said she felt fat and hated her breasts.” She learned online that hating your breasts is a sign of being transgender. She edited her diary (by crossing out existing text and writing in new text) to make it appear that she has always felt that she is transgender.

    -A 14-year-old natal female and three of her natal female friends were taking group lessons together with a very popular coach. The coach came out as transgender, and, within one year, all four students announced they were also transgender.

    -A natal female was traumatized by a rape when she was 16 years of age. Before the rape, she was described as a happy girl; after the rape, she became withdrawn and fearful. Several months after the rape, she announced that she was transgender and told her parents that she needed to transition.

    -A 21-year-old natal male who had been academically successful at a prestigious university seemed depressed for about six months. Since concluding that he was transgender, he went on to have a marked decline in his social functioning and has become increasingly angry and hostile to his family. He refuses to move out or look for a job. His entire family, including several members who are very supportive of the transgender community, believe that he is “suffering from a mental disorder which has nothing to do with gender.”

    -A 14-year-old natal female and three of her natal female friends are part of a larger friend group that spends much of their time talking about gender and sexuality. The three natal female friends all announced they were trans boys and chose similar masculine names. After spending time with these three friends, the 14-year-old natal female announced that she was also a trans boy.”

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    Like all good researchers, Dr. Littman acknowledges the limitations of her study. People, especially trans activists, criticize this study because no teenagers were surveyed.

    As pointed out by the authors in the article below,

    “It is standard practice in child and adolescent psychiatry to obtain full histories from parents, who provide information essential to accurate diagnosis. Parents are in fact frequently given questionnaires and standardized rating scales to complete which are used to clarify the diagnosis. Gathering data from parents is a legitimate part of child and adolescent mental health diagnosis and care.”

    Response to Julia Serano’s critique of Lisa Littman’s paper: Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria in Adolescents and Young Adults: A Study of Parental Reports

    http://gdworkinggroup.org/2018/08/27/response-to-julia-seranos-critique-of-lisa-littmans-paper-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-adolescents-and-young-adults-a-study-of-parental-reports/

    If hypothesis 1 and 2 below are correct, then observations and input by adults close to the child and professionals such as psychologists makes sense. Behaviors can be observed. Asking teenagers if social media and peers influence their behavior is likely to result in a nonsensical surly response. Try asking a teenager if social media and their peer group influences their behavior. We know what they are going to say. As to hypothesis 2, input and assessment from parents and other adults (psychologists, educators, etc.) would be vital.

    Hypothesis 1: Social contagion is a key determinant of rapid-onset gender dysphoria (ROGD).

    (Read comments from Dr. Littman)

    Littman says,

    One of the most compelling findings supporting the potential role of social and peer contagion in the development of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria is the cluster outbreaks of transgender-identification occurring in friendship groups. The expected prevalence of transgender young adult individuals is 0.7% [4]. Yet, more than a third of the friendship groups described in this study had 50% or more of the AYAs in the group becoming transgender-identified in a similar time frame, a localized increase to more than 70 times the expected prevalence rate. This is an observation that demands urgent further investigation.

    Hypothesis 2: ROGD is a maladaptive coping mechanism for AYAs.

    (*The majority (62.5%) of AYAs had one or more diagnoses of a psychiatric disorder or neurodevelopmental disability preceding the onset of gender dysphoria (range of the number of pre-existing diagnoses 0–7). Many (48.4%) had experienced a traumatic or stressful event prior to the onset of their gender dysphoria. )

    Dr. Littman states,

    “Another limitation of this study is that it included only parental perspective. Ideally, data would be obtained from both the parent and the child and the absence of either perspective paints an incomplete account of events. Input from the youth would have yielded additional information. Further research that includes data collection from both parent and child is required to fully understand this condition. However, because this research has been produced in a climate where the input from parents is often neglected in the evaluation and treatment of gender dysphoric AYAs, this research supplies a valuable, previously missing piece to the jigsaw puzzle. If Hypothesis 2 is correct that rapid-onset gender dysphoria (ROGD) represents an ego-syntonic maladaptive coping mechanism for AYAs, data from parents are especially important because affected AYAs may be so committed to the maladaptive coping mechanism that their ability to assess their own situation may be impaired. Furthermore, parents uniquely can provide details of their child’s early development and the presence or absence of readily observable childhood indicators of gender dysphoria are especially relevant to the diagnosis.”

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    Hypothesis 1 and 2 sure seems logical to me. Something is responsible for the huge spike in kids and teenagers being referred to gender clinics and declaring they are transgender. We know social factors play a role in eating disorders, cutting, etc., in adolescent girls. And, never forget that “gender dysphoria” is subjective by nature, and it can’t be quantified or measured speaking strictly from a scientific point of view. As Dr. Littman points out, more research is needed.

    Physician and researcher Dr. Littman deserves a medal for her courage. She is only saying what people have known for years.


  8. Two biased trans sources immediately go on the attack. It sickens me to no end that some media sources allowed this crass and slanderous attack on the mothers at 4thWaveNow. Ehrensaft, the very strange “Gender Smooties”, “Gender Prius”, “Double Helix Rainbow Kids” lady has the audacity to compare 4thWaveNow to the Klan. Yes, the old loon compared them to the Klan. Not only is this an insult to people of color who were real victims of the Klan, it’s offensive and ludicrous on its face. The gender clinic that the crazy (and she is a loon) “Double Helix Rainbow Kids” lady works at knowingly sterilizes children. Teenage girls age 14, 15, and 16 are getting “top surgery”. “Top surgery” is elective mastectomies with the trimming down of areolas and nipples. We are just discovering that some males medically transitioned, never allowed to go through normal puberty, have no sexual functioning. Jazz Jennings, trans youtube star, told his grandmother that “Marci Bowers told me I had to figure things out in terms of having an orgasm”. These boys who never went through puberty have small child like genitalia. This is why surgeons had to perform some kind of experimental surgery on Jazz. This is a 17 year old adolescent male. Google it. It’s still on youtube. February 2018 he tells his grandma that the doctor told him he has to figure out how to orgasm. Then, at the end of June he gets some experimental surgery to give him a “vagina”. If he couldn’t orgasm before, he sure as heck isn’t going to orgasm now that his tiny shrunken genitals have been removed. This experiment on children is something out of Dr. Mengele’s lab. The Nazi doctor did a lot crazy experiments on humans, but I doubt that he would do this to kids.

    Mothers who don’t relish the thought of their daughters getting their boobs lopped off at age 15 and taking testosterone for life are like the Klan, so says Ehrensaft.

    Psychologist Diane Ehrensaft who writes transgender books and has sat on the “Transgender Advisory Board” for AbbVie pharmaceutical company that markets GnRH analogues and hormones for medically transing children compared the parents at 4th Wave Now and Transgender Trend to the Klan.

    “Dr Littman posted links to her survey on three websites where parents and clinicians had described the abrupt appearance of adolescent gender dysphoria: 4thWaveNow, Transgender Trend and Youth Trans Critical Professionals. Referring to these sites as “anti-trans”, Diane Ehrensaft, the director of mental health at a gender clinic in San Francisco, has written that “this would be like recruiting from Klan or alt-right sites to demonstrate that blacks really are an inferior race”.

    https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/09/01/why-are-so-many-teenage-girls-appearing-in-gender-clinics

    This is quick guide to Ehrensaft.

    2014: AbbVie Trans Advisory Board Member (See her CV – link on top of webpage)

    2008 to present: Board Member, Gender Spectrum

    (page 4 of CV)

    (*She even puts her connection to pharmaceutical companies that market GnRH analogues and hormones that sterilize “gender dysphoric” children on her CV. Ehrensaft sells trans books for kids and makes speeches. She also sits on the Board of Directors of Gender Spectrum.)

    http://www.dianeehrensaft.com/

    Double Helix Rainbow Kids (or, transing disabled kids)

    Not content just medically transitioning kids, knowing full well that they will be sterilized in the process, it looks as if she has her sights on another group of vulnerable people.

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2018/08/31/double-helix-rainbow-kids-by-diane-ehrensaft/

    Diane Ehrensaft is fascinated with making up special new words for gender – lots of them. Ehrensaft’s cute and awesome zillion and one ways to say gender: Gender Angels, Gender Smoothies, Gender Ghosts, Gender Hybrids, Gender Prius, Gender Tootsie Roll Pops, etc. By age 2 children can know their gender. Rush the 2 year old kid to the gender clinic if she doesn’t like barrettes in the hair.

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/war-of-the-worlds-gender-angels-go-against-gender-ghosts/

    (Ehrensaft in video)
    Gender-affirmative therapist: Baby who hates barrettes = trans boy; questioning sterilization of 11-year olds same as denying cancer treatment

    https://4thwavenow.com/2016/09/29/gender-affirmative-therapist-baby-who-hates-barrettes-trans-boy-questioning-sterilization-of-11-year-olds-same-as-denying-cancer-treatment

    More on Ehrensaft
    Outbreak: On Transgender Teens and Psychic Epidemics
    Lisa Marchiano
    Journal
    Psychological Perspectives
    A Quarterly Journal of Jungian Thought
    Volume 60, 2017

    The following quotes come from a presentation by developmental psychologist and gender specialist Ehrensaft, at a 2016 Ehrensaft, D. (2016). The gender creative child: Pathways for nurturing and supporting children who live outside gender boxes. New York, NY: Experiment. [Google Scholar] symposium in Santa Cruz, California. Dr. Ehrensaft is the author of The Gender Creative Child, and is considered a leading expert in the field of transgender children. She is Director and Chief Psychologist for the University of California–San Francisco children’s hospital gender clinic, and is also Associate Professor of Pediatrics at UCSF. She sits on the Board of Directors of Gender Spectrum, a San Francisco Bay Area organization. We can learn a lot about the affirmative model even by reading a short excerpt of her talk.

    “Another thing that’s a show-stopper around [parents’] giving consent is the fertility issue. That if the child goes directly from puberty blockers to cross-sex hormones, they are pretty much forfeiting their fertility and won’t be able to have a genetically related child.
    There’s a lot of parents who have dreams of becoming grandparents. It’s very hard for them not to imagine those genetically related grandchildren. So we have to work with parents around, these aren’t your dreams. [She laughs.] You have to focus on your child’s dreams. What they want.

    And what I will say about many of the youth who want puberty blockers is: I have never met such an altruistic group of kids around adoption! Never! “I will adopt because there are so many children who need good homes.” And I think that’s both heartfelt but also they’re trying to tell us the most important thing to me right now is being able to have every opportunity to have my gender affirmation be as complete as possible. Anything else is secondary.

    The question is, can an 11-year-old, 12-year-old at that level of development, be really thinking and know what they want at age 30 around infertility? The answer to that is: We don’t think twice about instituting treatments for cancers for children that will compromise their fertility. We don’t say, we’re not going to give them the treatment for cancer because it’s going to compromise their fertility. For some of the youth, having the gender affirmation interventions is as life-saving as the oncology services for children who have cancer.” Ehrensaft

    Joel Baum, head of education for Gender Spectrum, speaks next:

    “I’ll just add one thing here. When we’re working with families, what is the leverage point for that family?… The fact of the matter is at the end of the day, it is their decision and we just hope they’re going to make an informed decision. Just make sure you have all the information you need. Which includes:

    You can either have grandchildren or not have a kid anymore because they’ve ended the relationship with you or in some cases because they’ve chosen a more dangerous path for themselves. (Ehrensaft & Baum, 2016)

    Here, Ehrensaft admits that the treatment toward which she often steers families—blockers followed by cross-sex hormones—causes infertility. She then dismisses this concern—rather insultingly, in my opinion—as nothing more than a parental desire to have a biologically related grandchild. In truth, sterilizing minor children—many of whom will likely grow up to be gay or lesbian—is a serious breach of medical ethics. Preserving the fertility of minors has always been considered a fundamental ethical principle.
    Ehrensaft and Baum then play the “suicide card,” implying that we wouldn’t hesitate to administer treatment that would sterilize a child suffering from cancer—and transition, according to Ehrensaft, could be “just as life-saving.” There are several things wrong with this assertion. Cancer treatments are undertaken only after confirming the diagnosis. Often, a biopsy is performed so that tissue can be examined under the microscope. Imaging studies may also be done, verifying the type of tumor and how far it has spread. Recall that we still have no meaningful definition of “gender identity,” and no scientific understanding of its development. There is no lab test for gender dysphoria. Moreover, treatment for a child with cancer will likely involve choosing between several different treatment options. The family will be presented with the risks and benefits of each, based on the best medical evidence. When a child self-diagnoses as trans, parents are frequently steered toward transition as the only treatment option.

    In addition, recall that there is no firm evidence that transition reduces suicidality. In fact, according to some studies, suicide rates after transition continue to be high (Asscheman et al., 2011Asscheman, H., Giltoy, E. J., Megens, J. A., Ronde, W. D., Trotsenberg, M. A., & Gooren, L. J. (2011). A long-term follow-up study of mortality in transsexuals receiving treatment with cross-sex hormones. European Journal of Endocrinology, 164(4), 635–642.[Crossref], [PubMed], [Web of Science ®], [Google Scholar]; Dhejne et al., 2011Dhejne, C., Lichtenstein, P., Boman, M., Johansson, A. L., Långström, N., & Landén, M.(2011). Long-term follow-up of transsexual persons undergoing sex reassignment surgery: Cohort study in Sweden. PLoS ONE, 6(2), e16885.https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0016885%5BCrossref%5D, [PubMed], [Web of Science ®], [Google Scholar]).

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00332925.2017.1350804

    Lisa Marchiano is a licensed clinical social worker and Certified Jungian Analyst practicing and teacher in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She holds a BA in history from Brown University, a Masters in International Affairs from Columbia University, and Masters in Social Work from New York University. She trained as an analyst with the Interregional Society for Jungian Analysts.

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00332925.2017.1350804

    Next up to take a swing at the study is the controversial mother who took her 16 year old son to Thailand for sex reassignment surgery. It looks as if Green is quoting Ehrensaft.

    “Susie Green, CEO of U.K. LGBTQ nonprofit Mermaids, told The Telegraph that the study was “completely flawed”: “As a colleague, a clinician who works in this field has stated, it’s like recruiting from a white supremacist website to demonstrate that black people are an inferior race.”

    http://www.newnownext.com/brown-university-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria/08/2018/

    These are a few links about Susie Green from Mermaids UK.

    https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3193748-Susie-Green?pg=4

    https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3177187-Mermaids-has-hit-the-headlines

    “…It is not disputed that eight years ago Ms. Green took her 16-year-old child to Thailand to receive gender reassignment surgery, which was and still is illegal for minors in the UK and is now illegal in Thailand. (In fact, the legal age for SRS was raised to 18 not long after the Greens went there for the surgery.)

    In a 2012 BBC 3 documentary, Ms. Green confirmed that her child underwent full GRS in Thailand. The narrator [4:15] states that Ms. Green’s child was “the youngest person in the world to change gender through surgery.”

    It must indeed have been painful for Ms. Green to see a tweet in which someone says she had her child castrated, but the statement is not untrue. In fact, this type of surgery involves far more than castration, which refers only to the removal of the testicles in natal males. But Ms. Keen-Minshull used the word “castrated” to make an important point: GRS is a euphemism that conceals the drastic nature of this medical intervention.
    And if it seems unfair that Ms. Keen-Minshull singles out Ms. Green, we must remember that she is not merely a mother who did what she believed to be right for her child. As CEO of Mermaids, she is an advocate for the use of these interventions in other people’s children. Mermaids has provided training and education to various UK government agencies, including schools and (interestingly) the UK police force. Mermaids representatives regularly attend Pride parades and other events to reach out to gender-nonconforming children and teens to inform them about transition. Ms. Green cannot reasonably expect that others won’t point out the full reality of these interventions if she is promoting them for other children.”

    https://4thwavenow.com/tag/susie-green/

    More on Susie Green of Mermaids.

    https://fairplayforwomen.com/mermaids-tg-lying-unprofessional/

    https://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2016/06/08/the-anti-gay-agenda-of-mermaids-uk-transgender-children-charity-and-political-lobby/

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mermaids-uk-charity-ban-as-boy-forced-to-live-as-girl-dvx3j99cn

    “Taxpayer-funded transgender charity which offered same-day hormone treatment for children is banned from contacting family after mother forced her son, seven, to live as a girl”

    “…A taxpayer-funded transgender charity which offered same-day hormone treatment for children has allegedly been banned from contacting a family after the mother forced her seven-year-old son to live as a girl.

    The boy was removed from his mother’s care by the High Court last year, after Mr Justice Hayden found that she had caused him ‘significant emotional harm’.
    Mermaids, a charity which offers ‘family and individual support for gender diverse and transgender children and young people’, criticised the judge’s ‘horrific’ decision at the time, claiming there was no evidence to support it.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4960080/Transgender-charity-banned-contacting-family.html

    As to Ehrensaft comparing 4thWaveNow and TransgenderTrend to the Klan, who would have guessed that 85% of white supremacists support gay marriage, basic rights for everyone including transgender people, and 37% of white supremacists have at least a Bachelor’s degree.

    Physician and researcher Littman was very thorough in her study of ROGD. She questioned the parents as to race, political views, etc.

    Baseline characteristics

    Baseline characteristics (Table 1) included that the vast majority of parents favored gay and lesbian couples’ right to legally marry (85.9%) and believed that transgender individuals deserve the same rights and protections as other individuals in their country (88.2%). Most respondents had a Bachelor’s degree (37.8%) or graduate degree (33.1%).

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202330

    Does this sound like the KKK and alt-right. It’s true that most of the parents questioned were white, but it’s ludicrous to imply that they are like the KKK. Talk to some of the parents and look into their background. Read their websites. These are everyday ordinary people with no ties to racist groups.

    We know who funds trans activists and gender clinics. Billionaire transwoman activist James, “Jennifer”, Pritzker is Caucasian and so is millionaire transwoman Martine Rothblatt. They made a ton of money running corporations before “transitioning” in mid-life and leaving the wife behind. Rich old white males fund transgender organizations, but it’s only ordinary women like 4th Wave Now who are white supremacists. And, don’t forget the pharmaceutical companies who market off label use of GnRH analogues and hormones to “gender dysphoric” children that people know are sterilizing kids, physically stunting their bodies, and in some cases, creating adolescent males who have no sexual functioning. Aren’t the CEOs of large pharmaceutical companies mostly white and male?

    At any rate, people who actually take the time to read the blog know that most of these women are liberal to moderate in their political beliefs. They don’t relish the idea of their daughters they gave birth to taking testosterone for the rest of their lives and getting mastectomies. Because these are smart ladies, they do their research.

    About

    “4thWaveNow was started by the mother of a teenage girl who suddenly announced she was a “trans man” after a few weeks of total immersion in YouTube transition vlogs. (The daughter has since desisted from identifying as transgender.) After much research and fruitless searching for an alternative online viewpoint, this mom began writing about her deepening skepticism of the ever-accelerating medical and media fascination with the phenomenon of “transgender children.”

    4thWaveNow has now expanded to feature not only the writing of the founder of this blog, but that of other parents, formerly trans-identified people, and people with professional expertise and experience with young people questioning their gender identity.
    Parents, please introduce yourselves and feel welcome here.

    From the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow:

    I created this site because mine is a viewpoint that is seldom publicly heard: that of a left-leaning parent who is critical of the dominant paradigm regarding transgender politics and treatment. My primary concern is children, teens, and people in their early 20s, particularly girls who are contemplating medical transition. While I may disagree with their views, I do understand that consenting adults have the right to do what they choose with their own bodies and minds.

    Online, I have been accused of being “unsupportive,” even “abusive,” simply for daring to question whether lifelong medical treatment–injections and plastic surgeries–is the answer for every young person who has gender dysphoria. In my world, caring about, listening to, and lovingly parenting a child or young adult is not necessarily a synonym for unexamined “support” for everything the child says or wants. In fact, one of the main jobs in parenting a teen is, not coercion, but the offering of alternatives; discussing, and sometimes disagreeing.

    It is my contention that the medical and psychological establishments are letting us all down in their rush to diagnose young people as “transgender,” then to give the message that medical treatment is the answer. Much of my writing now and in the future will focus on the adults who are pushing so many kids into extreme treatments. And I do consider hormones and surgery extreme treatment, if there is any possibility that something less drastic might be a solution.

    If you are a parent looking for support, you’ve come to the right place. We are interested in hearing from parents, family members, concerned professionals, and allies from across the political spectrum. However, I am not personally in accord with conservative, religious-fundamentalist views about sexuality. I am a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people.

    Please read blog posts carefully before asking questions or commenting. I will respond when I can to respectful input. I don’t have time to keep arguing the same points over and over again.

    Most of the voices in the media and in medicine are in opposition to my views. I’m presenting an alternative.”

    https://4thwavenow.com/about/

    “Transgender Trend – Who Are We?

    “We are a group of parents based in the UK, who are concerned about the current trend to diagnose ‘gender non-conforming’ children as transgender. We reject current conservative, reactionary, religious-fundamentalist views about sexuality and we have no political affiliation. We are also concerned about legislation which places transgender rights above the right to safety for girls and young women in public bathrooms and changing rooms.

    We come from diverse backgrounds, some with expertise in child development and psychology, some who were themselves extreme gender non-conforming children and adolescents, some whose own children have self-diagnosed as ‘trans’ and some who know supportive trans adults who are also questioning recent theories of ‘transgenderism.

    Why This Website?

    We are concerned that the increased public awareness of transgender issues has led to parents worrying unnecessarily about normal childhood behaviours. Throughout the media, in cases of ‘trans kids,’ those parents who uncritically accept the trans ideology are the ones who are deemed ‘brave’ and ‘supportive,’ leading to huge pressure on parents to accept the diagnosis of transgender. When worried parents seek information online they inevitably come across sites that reinforce (and even glamourise) the notion of the transgender child. We wanted to create a site which balanced that view with some research and facts which challenge the prevailing acceptance of an ideology which is new, untested, and invariably based on personal belief systems.

    We also want to provide information on legislation regarding the use of public toilets, bathrooms and changing rooms for parents who are concerned about the child protection and safeguarding issues this raises.

    Our work is voluntary, non-profit and unpaid, so we rely on personal donations to keep going. Our work includes research, travel to events, letter-writing (to government ministers, health professional bodies, the NHS, the BBC etc), media interviews, press releases, speaking and activism. Sign up to the blog to keep updated with our activities.”

    https://www.transgendertrend.com/about_us/

    Youth Trans Critical Professionals has gone private blog now, but if people are interested, they can still view their blog.

    https://youthtranscriticalprofessionals.org/

    Interview with Youth Critical Trans Professionals.

    https://4thwavenow.com/2016/04/05/do-no-harm-an-interview-with-the-founder-of-youth-trans-critical-professionals/


  9. This is a must read. “As a Former Dean of Harvard Medical School, I Question Brown’s Failure to Defend Lisa Littman”

    Jeffrey S. Flier, M.D. is Harvard University Distinguished Service Professor, and Higginson Professor of Medicine and Neurobiology. He is a former dean of Harvard Medical School.

    https://quillette.com/2018/08/31/as-a-former-dean-of-harvard-medical-school-i-question-browns-failure-to-defend-lisa-littman/

    Another must read:

    http://gdworkinggroup.org/2018/08/27/response-to-julia-seranos-critique-of-lisa-littmans-paper-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-adolescents-and-young-adults-a-study-of-parental-reports/


  10. Inquiry into surge in gender treatment ordered by Penny Mordaunt

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inquiry-into-surge-in-gender-treatment-ordered-by-penny-mordaunt-b2ftz9hfn

    Brown might have caved, but the huge spike in the number of children being medically transitioned is getting attention in the UK.


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